Unless things have changed since the NCAA took over the NIT, schools rarely make any money unless they reach the semis at Madison Square Garden. In fact, many schools lose money by bidding to host early round games (guarantee more tickets than they can sell on short notice).
Accept N.I.T. bid or not?
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should the football team refuse any bowl game that does not include playing for the NC....?
look at all the podunk 100% useless bowl games the FB team has been going to, not many people say we should decline that invitation
so yes take the NIT in a NY minute
look at all the podunk 100% useless bowl games the FB team has been going to, not many people say we should decline that invitation
so yes take the NIT in a NY minute
NIT = Nobody's Interested Tournament
From what I understand, it actally costs the schools money to play in it, and even if you win it, you are still no better than the 64th best team in the country. IF CMG would play only the guys that will be back next year it would be valuable experiance for next year, but he's not going to do that, and if he did it would definately be a one and done situation.
Without looking it up, can any one tell me who won the NIT last year or the year before?
I think it is a waste of time going to the NIT.
I feel almost the same way towards the meaningless bowl games also, the only thing is, at least some money is made off of them.
From what I understand, it actally costs the schools money to play in it, and even if you win it, you are still no better than the 64th best team in the country. IF CMG would play only the guys that will be back next year it would be valuable experiance for next year, but he's not going to do that, and if he did it would definately be a one and done situation.
Without looking it up, can any one tell me who won the NIT last year or the year before?
I think it is a waste of time going to the NIT.
I feel almost the same way towards the meaningless bowl games also, the only thing is, at least some money is made off of them.
I expect the only one to not be here next year is Jermareo. And he would deserve to play for being a senior.
Btw, S. Carolina won last year.
South Carolina has won it two years in a row. Most people who watch basketball at all know that, it may not be a huge deal but it is a tournament setting which is a very valuable experience for next year.
True. That was 1997. Hobbs had already been fired and stuff. They went to the NIT final 4 in NYC the year before and supposedly lost some money. Not much motivation for Bama to play that year..
Although I believe we will accept a bid if extended, I had prefer we not play under the current circumstances. This team for some reason is not playing up to their potential or ability. Personally, it appears to be a motivation problem. As a former coach, this problem will not be corrected by continuing play in a tournament that is considered one for also rans. N.I.T play only serves to feed the intrinsic motivation problem of the athlete. If we do go to the tournament it will be just to "participate and get it over with." If I am wrong about my assessment, I apologize to all I have offended.
I agree with you. Gottfried tonight sounded none too excited about the prospect of playing in the NIT ... but he did say the young guys want to play. Rah, rah, sis-boom-bah!
Accept. Get embarrased once more. Get Gottfried out.
Like Shula, Gottfried has taken Alabama basketball as far as he can. The only way we beat anyone these days is beating them with talent. When it comes to the X's and O's, we are dead every time.
Like Shula, Gottfried has taken Alabama basketball as far as he can. The only way we beat anyone these days is beating them with talent. When it comes to the X's and O's, we are dead every time.
Can you smell that team spirit? 
:BigA: ROLL TIDE ROLL :BigA:
You guys are a bunch of cry babies!
:BigA: ROLL TIDE ROLL :BigA:
You guys are a bunch of cry babies!
Who do you suggest replacing him? I think it's a bad move and if he is fired or quits, Bama basketball will be taking 3 steps backwards. The competition in the SEC has gotten a whole lot better and Bama just didn't have enough this season.
I agree, even with what has happened this year, he should be given another shot next year. There is something going on within the team themselves, it needs to be corrected by the staff. Even if it means removing a player(s) from the team next year, IF THERE IS A PROBLEM. Something has changed form where this team started this year, only the team and staff know.
CG, should be given another year to correct the problems and make this team better.
I was in school in the early 70's when Coach Newton was there, may be we need to bring him back as a consultant and let some of the staff go.
We still need to be behind this team, we do not need another coaching change at this time.
The staff will get things turned around...ROLL TIDE
Geez,
do most of you really understand what not having Ronald 100% means? What did the season look like when Brodie went down in the Western Carolina game? Did we not still have a lot of great players, yet when the QB went down, it all went to $&8!. Losing an All American point guard is even worse. Cut them some slack and get behind them. As Coach Saban says, POSITIVE, POSITIVE!!
ROLL DAMN TIDE!!!!
do most of you really understand what not having Ronald 100% means? What did the season look like when Brodie went down in the Western Carolina game? Did we not still have a lot of great players, yet when the QB went down, it all went to $&8!. Losing an All American point guard is even worse. Cut them some slack and get behind them. As Coach Saban says, POSITIVE, POSITIVE!!
ROLL DAMN TIDE!!!!
We shouldn't turn it down even though this team doesn't deserve a chance to redeem themselves. Turning down an invitation would most likely poison the well for any future teams to be invited. I'm talking about teams that play with heart and hustle and are still not good enough to get an NCAA invite. Such a team would probably appreciate another chance, but I don't think this year's team gives a whit one way or the other.
There are many reasons we should play in the NIT and keep CMG. If we think about this UA has the possibility of winning a few games. Winning helps a team pyschologically. If we want these young guys to feel what winning tastes like then we should play. Also, this year was a disaster. Having an ALL-AMERICAN hurt is never good and next year we will not have to deal with the JD saga. I feel bad for him, but he really hurt the team this year and kind of sent us into a funk. And also think if these guys won the championship, winning a championship feels great and confidence would soar. Let's play.
I agree that not having Steele at 100% hampered us this year. However, let me pose this question: Exactly when did it become evident that he wasn't 100%? In November? December? January? February? I seem to recall him having tendonitis issues back in December, if not before. So, why did Gottfried "roll the dice" and hope for the possibility that Steele would play his way back to 100%? A smarter move, IMO, would have been to try to develop some alternatives within our current roster. That way, if Steele were able to return at full strength, then we're OK, and if he cannot return at full strength, then we've at least got some experienced players running the point, even if it's a point-forward. That's one issue.
Another issue is the consistent inability to handle pressure: full court presses, half-court traps, or even strong man-to-man. Teams that utilize those strategies against us have beaten us consistently since Wimp left the Plaid Palace. We don't ever seem to have an answer that involves a team concept; more often than not, our strategy is to allow our single best ballhandler to break the pressure. That's not smart basketball.
A third issue is a confusing one: we either have no offensive identity or we cannot recruit to fill needs within our offensive philosophy. Gotfried supposedly runs a variant of the UCLA high-low offense. That offense requires dominating big men who can pass well. We have had some big men who could fit that bill, and we currently have a couple of players who might be able to handle the role, but they don't seem to be getting the teaching necessary to excel. When I watch Alabama play, I don't see the UCLA offense. I don't see the Bob Knight motion offense, the Roy Williams delayed break, or the Kryzezewski (sp?) offense. I often see confusion, and I often see confusion coming out of a timeout.
A fourth issue is that I don't see a strong defense on a consistent basis. If you can't play offense well, then you must be able to defend. We used to have at least 1 lockdown defender every year. Who was it this year? Was one enough? Who could we put on the other team's best player to keep him under control? Did we try to use "junk" defenses (box-and-1, triangle-and-2, amoeba, matchup zone, front/back zones on big men, etc.) to confuse the other team and control the paint? Did we press hard and consistently?
The loss of Steele and the ineffectiveness of Davidson probably should have relegated us to the NIT. However, we have enough talent on the team that we should be sitting here talking about what a great job Gottfried did to get somebody to step up for Steele and how hard the guys played down the stretch under difficult circumstances. Instead, many people watched a train derail while the engineer yelled for more coal.
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