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Yup. CNS was the anomoly with losses coming in big games and consistently winning the "trap games." Even going back to CKD at UW, they seem to rise for the big games, but are vulnerable in games they should win (ie, 2023 vs ASU)
I don't think you can really say that at this point. It didn't happen in his second year at Washington, only his first. And it happened in his first year at Alabama. It seems more like a first year thing than anything else. There's not much we could've done differently against Oklahoma, given what happened with QB play. I thought the Oklahoma game was actually very predictable, considering what defenses Milroe has always struggled against. I think I even posted on here that I thought we might win 10-7 or something. Take away all of Milroe's interceptions in that game, and that prediction wouldn't have been far off. We probably would've won. The Michigan game was very predictable too, considering it wasn't far off from what happened in the CFP. It all came down to turnovers. i did not really expect to beat Michigan this year, either, since they returned most of their defense. Let's see what he does in his second year with a QB who can read a defense, before we say his teams have a tendency to not show up. Also, we talk about Oklahoma and Vandy like they were terrible, but they probably would have both won 8 games in the ACC or Big 12. Oklahoma's defense was beastly. Vandy was the only game where it really felt like we weren't ready. Most of the team played fine against Oklahoma and Michigan. QB play was our downfall in those games. Even the Bandy is still a win without the turnovers. Let's not forget, Saban defenses often struggled against the triple option also. We always overcame it, due to our insane depth. However, the days of stacking talent like that are over, for everyone. We will probably start seeing more teams stumble in games like that, as a result of the changes that have been happening within college football.
 
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I don't think you can really say that at this point. It didn't happen in his second year at Washington, only his first. And it happened in his first year at Alabama. It seems more like a first year thing than anything else. There's not much we could've done differently against Oklahoma, given what happened with QB play. I thought the Oklahoma game was actually very predictable, considering what defenses Milroe has always struggled against. I think I even posted on here that I thought we might win 10-7 or something. Take away all of Milroe's interceptions in that game, and that prediction wouldn't have been far off. We probably would've won. The Michigan game was very predictable too, considering it wasn't far off from what happened in the CFP. It all came down to turnovers. i did not really expect to beat Michigan this year, either, since they returned most of their defense. Let's see what he does in his second year with a QB who can read a defense, before we say his teams have a tendency to not show up. Also, we talk about Oklahoma and Vandy like they were terrible, but they probably would have both won 8 games in the ACC or Big 12. Oklahoma's defense was beastly. Vandy was the only game where it really felt like we weren't ready. Most of the team played fine against Oklahoma and Michigan. QB play was our downfall in those games. Even the Bandy is still a win without the turnovers. Let's not forget, Saban defenses often struggled against the triple option also. We always overcame it, due to our insane depth. However, the days of stacking talent like that are over, for everyone. We will probably start seeing more teams stumble in games like that, as a result of the changes that have been happening within college football.
There might be some gray area to how I worded it about CKD (even tho the ASU game I referenced was in his second season ... a 7-0 UW team was fortunate to have beaten 1-6 ASU), but I still stand by CNS being the exception (and Kirby being close behind him). Compared to Meyer, Carroll, Dabo, Sark, Tuberville, etc. we traditionally did not have letdowns against inferior opponents. Those other guys got their teams up for big games but would drop them (sometimes in blowout fashion) to inferior teams. I agree with your takes about our specific games last season, but it was also clear we were less "prepared" for those games, whether schematically or emotionally. OU was as lifeless of a game as I can remember, especially when everything was on the line
 

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I'm excited, man. People, I don't know if they know, but you go back and watch every first game that I played in, we always start fast. I dreamed of moments like this. I dreamed of playing against Alabama. They don't have Nick Saban to save them. I just don't see them stopping me.
This will end well.
 
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I'm excited, man. People, I don't know if they know, but you go back and watch every first game that I played in, we always start fast. I dreamed of moments like this. I dreamed of playing against Alabama. They don't have Nick Saban to save them. I just don't see them stopping me.
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Yup. CNS was the anomoly with losses coming in big games and consistently winning the "trap games." Even going back to CKD at UW, they seem to rise for the big games, but are vulnerable in games they should win (ie, 2023 vs ASU)
Meh, "winning" maybe, but we had numerous problems and lackluster performances, too:

2008 Tulane - lackluster 20-6 win after the Clemson blowout
2008 Kentucky - a ho-hum 17-14 win following the Georgia blowout
2009 Tennessee - seriously, took two FG blocks to beat a so-so Vols team at home
2010 SCAR (LOSS) - on Sunday after throttling Florida, we were the team to beat.
2012 Texas A/M (LOSS) - right after the exhilarating win over LSU (AJ to TJ)
2013 Miss State - yeah, we won, but we didn't look good after smashing Mettenberger
2014 Ole Miss/Arkansas - right after smashing Florida and an off week, we lost to Ole Miss and....SURVIVED by the skin of our teeth against Arky
2017 Miss State - right after beating LSU, we needed a miracle from Jalen just to stay unbeaten
2021 aTm (LOSS) - the game we lost was probably to the one team we shouldn't have lost
2021 Auburn - folks, talk about LUCKY - just lucky.......sure we were better than them but jeez

Don't get me wrong, we would usually WIN those trap games. But we weren't immune to needing miracles to win them, either.

Granted, they were few and far between, but it also speaks to the emotion that college players have. If your opponent is motivated and emotional and you spent all of your last week, they have a shot to beat you.

I remain convinced the most crucial aspect of Auburn beating us in 2013 was their good fortune to have an off week between that miracle that beat Georgia and then having to face us. We had peaked too soon and had a few injuries, and they got to dissipate the emotion from the miracle win and get up for another game.

And then we let them hang around and take it.
 

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Meh, "winning" maybe, but we had numerous problems and lackluster performances, too:

2008 Tulane - lackluster 20-6 win after the Clemson blowout
2008 Kentucky - a ho-hum 17-14 win following the Georgia blowout
2009 Tennessee - seriously, took two FG blocks to beat a so-so Vols team at home
2010 SCAR (LOSS) - on Sunday after throttling Florida, we were the team to beat.
2012 Texas A/M (LOSS) - right after the exhilarating win over LSU (AJ to TJ)
2013 Miss State - yeah, we won, but we didn't look good after smashing Mettenberger
2014 Ole Miss/Arkansas - right after smashing Florida and an off week, we lost to Ole Miss and....SURVIVED by the skin of our teeth against Arky
2017 Miss State - right after beating LSU, we needed a miracle from Jalen just to stay unbeaten
2021 aTm (LOSS) - the game we lost was probably to the one team we shouldn't have lost
2021 Auburn - folks, talk about LUCKY - just lucky.......sure we were better than them but jeez

Don't get me wrong, we would usually WIN those trap games. But we weren't immune to needing miracles to win them, either.

Granted, they were few and far between, but it also speaks to the emotion that college players have. If your opponent is motivated and emotional and you spent all of your last week, they have a shot to beat you.

I remain convinced the most crucial aspect of Auburn beating us in 2013 was their good fortune to have an off week between that miracle that beat Georgia and then having to face us. We had peaked too soon and had a few injuries, and they got to dissipate the emotion from the miracle win and get up for another game.

And then we let them hang around and take it.
Thanks for taking the time to research it. Well taken.

But I still think CNS teams were still *better* than the other elite teams in this regard. (And with limited sample size, DeBoer-coached teams seem more typical.)

Had Dabo, Urban, Mack Brown, Stoops, etc. coached at Bama 17 years instead of CNS, we would've lost more "trap games" than we did under CNS.

Of all the qualities that separate him from everyone else, I think preparing like "every opponent matters the same" is on his top tier
 

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Thanks for taking the time to research it. Well taken.

But I still think CNS teams were still *better* than the other elite teams in this regard. (And with limited sample size, DeBoer-coached teams seem more typical.)

Had Dabo, Urban, Mack Brown, Stoops, etc. coached at Bama 17 years instead of CNS, we would've lost more "trap games" than we did under CNS.

Of all the qualities that separate him from everyone else, I think preparing like "every opponent matters the same" is on his top tier
lol…Selma doesn’t do research…research asks him what’s up? 🤣
 

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Thanks for taking the time to research it. Well taken.

But I still think CNS teams were still *better* than the other elite teams in this regard. (And with limited sample size, DeBoer-coached teams seem more typical.)

Had Dabo, Urban, Mack Brown, Stoops, etc. coached at Bama 17 years instead of CNS, we would've lost more "trap games" than we did under CNS.

Of all the qualities that separate him from everyone else, I think preparing like "every opponent matters the same" is on his top tier
Just to be clear - I agree with you in the abstract. I agree we had FEWER losses even when we had mediocre follow-up performances and largely because we had a coach who refused to just take it.

Even the ones we lost with the notable exception of the Stephen Garcia game can largely be written off to things like stupid play calling from inept coordinators on both sides of the ball.
 
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Just to be clear - I agree with you in the abstract. I agree we had FEWER losses even when we had mediocre follow-up performances and largely because we had a coach who refused to just take it.

Even the ones we lost with the notable exception of the Stephen Garcia game can largely be written off to things like stupid play calling from inept coordinators on both sides of the ball.
I think alot of what we are seeing with post Saban takes are a lot similar to what we saw with post Bryant takes. Yes they were the greatest of their time and very unique amongst their peers, but there is a lot of undue criticism for their successors and a lot of blind arguments being made about them as well.

I think until DeBoer ever wins one there will constantly be “Saban would never” or “if Saban was here” arguments. Even though those arguments weren’t 100% true. I think it’s very odd however that a few loud doubters have stopped their crazy assertions that DeBoer couldn’t recruit…. So i think patience is the key with any transition
 

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I think alot of what we are seeing with post Saban takes are a lot similar to what we saw with post Bryant takes. Yes they were the greatest of their time and very unique amongst their peers, but there is a lot of undue criticism for their successors and a lot of blind arguments being made about them as well.

I think until DeBoer ever wins one there will constantly be “Saban would never” or “if Saban was here” arguments. Even though those arguments weren’t 100% true. I think it’s very odd however that a few loud doubters have stopped their crazy assertions that DeBoer couldn’t recruit…. So i think patience is the key with any transition
Stallings was our first real success after Bryant. And when the 1992 offense was.....well, not very good....the Selective Amnesia Merchants went with "Coach Bryant never would have done that." They selectively remember blowing out Tennessee in 1973 or beating USC in 1977 while forgetting near escapes against the Vols in 1972 and needing a near miracle to upset Florida State in 1974 (if you don't know the story, we trailed until the final minute and hit a FG to beat a team that was 0-11 in 1973 and 1-10 in 1974).

You know what so many people forget about the 1977 USC game?
They recall that we won, 21-20, when USC failed on a two-point conversion at the end. They forget the part where we led, 21-6, with 7 minutes left in the game and nearly choked it away.

If we had beaten Mississippi State in the final seconds in 1980 - we fumbled at their two - the details would have been forgotten since going into that year we were expecting to be undefeated by the time we reached the Notre Dame game.


Revisionism is so funny when it happens during one's lifetime.
 

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