Re: Alabama QB competition article (ALL QB posts here, please)
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Alabama QB competition article
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Re: Alabama QB competition article (ALL QB posts here, please)
Like I’ve been saying, both Jalen and Tua are good enough to get us to the SEC Championship or CFP. The difference is when we play teams like Auburn, Georgia, Washington, Clemson, and yes Ole Miss and Missouri this year. We must be able to have a downfield passing game, Tua gives us a better chance to beat those teams.
Like I’ve been saying, both Jalen and Tua are good enough to get us to the SEC Championship or CFP. The difference is when we play teams like Auburn, Georgia, Washington, Clemson, and yes Ole Miss and Missouri this year. We must be able to have a downfield passing game, Tua gives us a better chance to beat those teams.
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I’m hoping you are right.......it’s been said multiple times, but we all know who the better QB is, and starting one because of loyalty or parental interference isn’t conducive to team unity
I’m hoping you are right.......it’s been said multiple times, but we all know who the better QB is, and starting one because of loyalty or parental interference isn’t conducive to team unity
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That may be dependent on how good our D is and how good Auburn is.
That may be dependent on how good our D is and how good Auburn is.
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Especially if the defense has to depend on the offense to score a ton to take the pressure off....... multiple 3 and outs won’t get it
Especially if the defense has to depend on the offense to score a ton to take the pressure off....... multiple 3 and outs won’t get it
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Amen to that. Stidham is so much better than Hurts that it may counter our other advantages. Two in a row to Auburn would not be good.
Amen to that. Stidham is so much better than Hurts that it may counter our other advantages. Two in a row to Auburn would not be good.
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If Tua is not the starter (barring injury ealier in the year) when we play Auburn it can only mean 2 things:
1. We've stunk it up and Tua imploded and became a TO machine.
2. Jalen Hurts has transformed into a very good, reliable passer and has learned when to pass and when to run to his and the team's advantage.
Otherwise, it's just hard to imagine Tua not being "the guy" if CNS follows through with playing 2 qbs early.
If Tua is not the starter (barring injury ealier in the year) when we play Auburn it can only mean 2 things:
1. We've stunk it up and Tua imploded and became a TO machine.
2. Jalen Hurts has transformed into a very good, reliable passer and has learned when to pass and when to run to his and the team's advantage.
Otherwise, it's just hard to imagine Tua not being "the guy" if CNS follows through with playing 2 qbs early.
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Another possibility: Saban settled on Jalen Hurts for whatever reasons that Saban is still uncertain and Tua has transferred before playing more than 4 games. If that happens I'll still be an Alabama fan, as always, but I'll also be a Tua fan pulling for him on whatever is his new team, assuming it isn't in the SEC.
Another possibility: Saban settled on Jalen Hurts for whatever reasons that Saban is still uncertain and Tua has transferred before playing more than 4 games. If that happens I'll still be an Alabama fan, as always, but I'll also be a Tua fan pulling for him on whatever is his new team, assuming it isn't in the SEC.
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The team supports both quarterbacks. I don't see the problem. Both will play and do well against Louisville. Who walks on to the field first doesn't matter.
The team supports both quarterbacks. I don't see the problem. Both will play and do well against Louisville. Who walks on to the field first doesn't matter.
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The reason I think Tua starts is that he needs to be in a situation where there is pressure, not just to perform, but to get experience as the starting QB and the pomp and circumstance that surround that. He didn't have that last year; all the butterflies and mind games of knowing you are the starter. He certainly came into a difficult situation at halftime of the UGA game, but honestly, he had nothing to lose when he came in. He needs to feel what it's like when he does have something to lose.
I think the vast majority of us would be floored if Jalen started the Texas A&M game because Tua really seems to be the better QB and the future of the program. Therefore, if Jalen starts this Saturday, then it tells me this is still a competition. Otherwise, what does starting Jalen accomplish?
As an aside, I really like Jalen Hurts and how he's represented himself at the University, but my completely irrelevant arm-chair coach mind tells me he isn't our best option at QB.
The reason I think Tua starts is that he needs to be in a situation where there is pressure, not just to perform, but to get experience as the starting QB and the pomp and circumstance that surround that. He didn't have that last year; all the butterflies and mind games of knowing you are the starter. He certainly came into a difficult situation at halftime of the UGA game, but honestly, he had nothing to lose when he came in. He needs to feel what it's like when he does have something to lose.
I think the vast majority of us would be floored if Jalen started the Texas A&M game because Tua really seems to be the better QB and the future of the program. Therefore, if Jalen starts this Saturday, then it tells me this is still a competition. Otherwise, what does starting Jalen accomplish?
As an aside, I really like Jalen Hurts and how he's represented himself at the University, but my completely irrelevant arm-chair coach mind tells me he isn't our best option at QB.
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Only way that happens is if CNS refuses to give Tua meaningful playing time in the first 2 or 3 games. I just don't see that scenario playing out.
Not to get ahead of ourselves, but outside of Jalen miraculously "getting it" and totally outplaying Tau, I believe if that scenario played out, CNS would have made his first/biggest critical error as the Bama coach (costing us Tua and Taulia eventually). IOW, I don't think it'll happen.
Only way that happens is if CNS refuses to give Tua meaningful playing time in the first 2 or 3 games. I just don't see that scenario playing out.
Not to get ahead of ourselves, but outside of Jalen miraculously "getting it" and totally outplaying Tau, I believe if that scenario played out, CNS would have made his first/biggest critical error as the Bama coach (costing us Tua and Taulia eventually). IOW, I don't think it'll happen.
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Each of these factors indicate that Tua will be the starter
- CNS has stated numerous times since the NC game that he is looking for a distributor of the ball
- It was obvious that Tua has won the team when he entered the UGA game, before he had done anything, then he did what he did
- All reports this fall camp have indicated that Tua was the superior player, the only exception was essentially a tie at the 2nd scrimmage, after which CNS said not to read too much into it because of breakdowns in the secondary. Plus it was just one practice of many.
Each of these factors indicate that CNS will not be "fooling around" with the QB rotation
- Louisville is not the Citadel - CNS will not take them lightly at all.
- Never in the past has CNS "played around" with any game until it is well in hand.
- I've never seen loyalty play a part in starter selection, especially not QB. Though IMO, the blowup with Jalen's interview was greatly overstated, it did show that the bond between CNS and Jalen is not inordinately strong, as well as CNS's "I don't know" response which was the genesis of Jalen's frustration. While CNS is very appreciative and respectful of all coaches and players, I do not see him risking anything for the sake of a misplaced sentimental loyalty.
- CNS owes the team, the coaches and the program to start the best QB. He owes that much more than something to any specific player.
- Saban has shown no indication that he is influenced by parents. He is understanding and shows respect, as he should, but nothing more.
Finally - though this might be overstated, but if the unthinkable is true and the greatest of all time is losing it or having a brain cramp, and there's absolutely no evidence that it is true, this situation has the potential to be explosive and derail his program. (reluctantly said this the other day)
- he could lose the team, the fan base, some individual players could leave.
CNS deserves the benefit of the doubt and deference and respect even if he's lost it or just makes a bad decision. He can never be repaid for what he has done for the program, the University and state.
If Jalen does trot out to start, it is not his fault. He's doing what the coaches have told him. He has not quit and has continued to compete under the most trying individual circumstances, so, he deserves nothing but respect. He wants to remain part of this team and program. Again - it's not his fault.
Btw, just for clarity: IMO, Tua will start and everything will be fine. Even if he doesn't start CNS may make things work out.
Each of these factors indicate that Tua will be the starter
- CNS has stated numerous times since the NC game that he is looking for a distributor of the ball
- It was obvious that Tua has won the team when he entered the UGA game, before he had done anything, then he did what he did
- All reports this fall camp have indicated that Tua was the superior player, the only exception was essentially a tie at the 2nd scrimmage, after which CNS said not to read too much into it because of breakdowns in the secondary. Plus it was just one practice of many.
Each of these factors indicate that CNS will not be "fooling around" with the QB rotation
- Louisville is not the Citadel - CNS will not take them lightly at all.
- Never in the past has CNS "played around" with any game until it is well in hand.
- I've never seen loyalty play a part in starter selection, especially not QB. Though IMO, the blowup with Jalen's interview was greatly overstated, it did show that the bond between CNS and Jalen is not inordinately strong, as well as CNS's "I don't know" response which was the genesis of Jalen's frustration. While CNS is very appreciative and respectful of all coaches and players, I do not see him risking anything for the sake of a misplaced sentimental loyalty.
- CNS owes the team, the coaches and the program to start the best QB. He owes that much more than something to any specific player.
- Saban has shown no indication that he is influenced by parents. He is understanding and shows respect, as he should, but nothing more.
Finally - though this might be overstated, but if the unthinkable is true and the greatest of all time is losing it or having a brain cramp, and there's absolutely no evidence that it is true, this situation has the potential to be explosive and derail his program. (reluctantly said this the other day)
- he could lose the team, the fan base, some individual players could leave.
CNS deserves the benefit of the doubt and deference and respect even if he's lost it or just makes a bad decision. He can never be repaid for what he has done for the program, the University and state.
If Jalen does trot out to start, it is not his fault. He's doing what the coaches have told him. He has not quit and has continued to compete under the most trying individual circumstances, so, he deserves nothing but respect. He wants to remain part of this team and program. Again - it's not his fault.
Btw, just for clarity: IMO, Tua will start and everything will be fine. Even if he doesn't start CNS may make things work out.
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I think his first big critical error, one that actually cost us a game, was not taking advise of his Offensive Coordinator, the guy he hired to run the offense, to play Tua at qb vs Auburn last year.
He's arguably the best college coach ever, but not infallible.
I think his first big critical error, one that actually cost us a game, was not taking advise of his Offensive Coordinator, the guy he hired to run the offense, to play Tua at qb vs Auburn last year.
He's arguably the best college coach ever, but not infallible.
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CNS is just to smart to let that happen, IMO.
CNS is just to smart to let that happen, IMO.
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Time for some perspective...
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I hope you are right.... I've been hearing and feeling like the right call would/will be made...
But a few posts earlier and specifically one post has me awfully worried right now.
I trust Earle's intel as much as anyone.... maybe his statement earlier was an opinion based on info and not fact from info....not sure which way he meant what he said?
Again from a couple people I know who's information I trust 99%+ Tua has completely and thoroughly outperformed Jalen all month long. Like it hasn't even been close.... Tua's worst play is better than Jalen's best play...
So I'm really puzzled by so many announcing right now that they expect Jalen to start in spite of all that??
I hope you are right.... I've been hearing and feeling like the right call would/will be made...
But a few posts earlier and specifically one post has me awfully worried right now.
I trust Earle's intel as much as anyone.... maybe his statement earlier was an opinion based on info and not fact from info....not sure which way he meant what he said?
Again from a couple people I know who's information I trust 99%+ Tua has completely and thoroughly outperformed Jalen all month long. Like it hasn't even been close.... Tua's worst play is better than Jalen's best play...
So I'm really puzzled by so many announcing right now that they expect Jalen to start in spite of all that??
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i think that the best to decide is give both of them the same plays. script the same first 12 plays for each player the same. mix it up between short, medium and deep balls and see who makes it work the best.
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ehheh. Yeah. The defensive coaches won't catch on to that by about the 4th play of the next qb.
ehheh. Yeah. The defensive coaches won't catch on to that by about the 4th play of the next qb.
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If the decision is pre-determined that they'll both play early, I suspect what you describe will be the plan.
If the decision is pre-determined that they'll both play early, I suspect what you describe will be the plan.
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