Bama getting no respect
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I see the blue font, but it's clear this committee doesn't know the first thing about college football. They probably aren't even aware the Pac12 is an afterthought.
We set our own narrative.
If we had blown out USF 56-14 - which btw is the score 4-7 Florida Atlantic blew them out - we'd likely be in the top 5 right now and probably ahead of Oregon. Because we all know Oregon would have blown out South Florida, and it would have been pretty nasty.
It wasn't the sloppy home loss that killed us as much as it was the in-house fallout from it that played out on the football field.
And while everyone is raving about "but we played a tougher schedule than Oregon," tell me who we have played and beaten that would have actually beaten Oregon. If LSU had a decent defense, I'd say LSU maybe, but that game would have been an Oregon home game using our schedule, too. (Here's where the "accumulation of games" argument comes but without naming an actual team). And LSU hasn't stopped anyone this year, so the idea they would have stopped Oregon ON THE ROAD after an off week for the Ducks is unlikely.
And for some reason I'll never understand, LSU is a really good team when we're talking Alabama but a cupcake when we're talking Florida State. Actually, I know the exact reason for that. And Florida State's defense held LSU to fewer points than we did.
And for those of you going "they beat Utah, but Utah isn't any good," tell me how good you think Tennessee is NOW that they've gotten blown out by Missouri and lost to a 5-6 Florida team. (You know, the same Florida team that got blown out by Utah).
Look, I don't think Oregon could stay on the field with Alabama OR Georgia, and I think they'd be about 50-50 against Texas or Florida State. But we are in a predicament of OUR OWN MAKING, and nobody else.
Not hard to ignore at all.
What happened between Auburn and Oregon 13 years ago has ZIP to do with a game being played by kids who were in elementary school at the time.
That's a big loss. He's nearly as important as Bowers, factoring in blocking and clutch catches. Hate it for him.
I made a similar comment yesterday.
For 40 years now, I've watched pundit after pundit be overly impressed with these high octane, high-scoring offenses to the point they shout down any rational discourse. I first became aware of this in 1983, when there was a season-long argument over whether Nebraska (who set the then record for most points in a season) or Texas (then in the SWC with the nation's #1 defense) was the better team. And, of course, because of the bowl agreements, they never met on the field.
But there were two groups of writers at the time:
1) the VERY LARGE group dazzled by "man, nobody can stop Nebraska, they have the best QB and RB and WR in the country"
2) the VERY TINY group that said, "they only scored 14 points against OK State and only 28 against Oklahoma, two teams with legit defenses.
Texas then went out and faced Georgia, gave up 10 points...and lost the Cotton Bowl and potential national championship. Nebraska went out and fell behind Miami, 17-0, and lost the Orange Bowl playing for a win.
After all that...Nebraska still got some first-place votes for the championship despite losing while Texas got zero, even though Auburn (whom Texas blew out) got 7.
I use the baseball parallel - it's like when you have a baseball player who has ONE thing he does VERY WELL (like Aaron Judge hits a lot of homers) and people cannot understand that a guy who does a lot of things PRETTY GOOD but not superstar-like is just as good sometimes a better actual player.
The voters can look at a high-powered offense and be dazzled.
It takes coaches to point out why a great defense is actually better.
Completely right on both accounts. It doesn't change the fact that I will continue to mock the pac-12 and their brand of "football" at every turn. Because it amuses me. Hey, at least I am honest about why I am doing it.
My Oregon bud (the UW lifer) does the same thing.
He lives in Eugene, and he has seen this so many times.
He loves it.
And he keeps saying that UW is sitting on a ticking time bomb that will expose them.
Oregon fans get all excited and he's telling them, "Just wait - you're gonna have to beat an SEC team to win this thing." Oregon fans appeal to blowing out the Vols about ten years ago in Knoxville, to which he says, "That's not the SEC. Beating a lousy SEC team is NOT beating Alabama or Georgia or LSU (when they're good). Hell, you couldn't even beat Auburn in 2011, and they weren't a typical SEC team!"
Oregon is being treated as an unbeaten is the problem. To a degree I agree. Say what you want about Oregon and Michigan’s schedules but unlike Alabama and Georgia they aren’t having close games with their whooping dogs or cupcakes. They are blowing them out like they should. Alabama after Texas was still a highly thought of team, but the second we started having bad performances against USF and Ole Miss we started to fall.
The Beavers could do us a huge favor and take Oregon out this weekend.
If this was a year from now, we wouldn't even be sweating anything. We had so much good luck with the playoff I guess we were bound to have bad luck at some point.
I think a lot of these teams like Tennessee may just “quit†when they have nothing left to play for like a conference championship or national championship. That winds up making our wins look not as good.
It will be interesting to see how Oregon St. does against Oregon this coming week. That game is their big rivalry but I think the conference title is out for them with the loss this last weekend. I hope @JohnD is correct about them possibly doing us a solid on Saturday.
It will be interesting to see how Oregon St. does against Oregon this coming week. That game is their big rivalry but I think the conference title is out for them with the loss this last weekend. I hope @JohnD is correct about them possibly doing us a solid on Saturday.
Yeah. We are pretty going to be NFL fans in which the issue is more griping about the last conference champ that gets a bye and the last jerk in the party getting in. But ultimately the “who is in†argument will be dead.
If OSU couldn’t take out Washington then they aren’t going to take out Oregon in a series that Oregon owns.
Losing to the two best teams we played all year doesn't seem as much bad luck as our incompetence. Also beating the number 1 ranked team coming off back-to-back national titles and still getting left out because of a week freaking 2 loss would seem way unluckier.
I’ll have to see how it plays out, but right now I don’t agree. There’s simply no excuse for including the highest ranked G5 team every year when all that does is take away a spot from a potential contender. The automatic spots for conference champions does the same thing. Ultimately I think the 12 team playoff will help teams like Bama, especially this year’s version, but there are teams that will get left out because of automatic qualifiers.
Yeah, I'm not very hopeful in it happening. It is a rivalry game though.
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