Question: Border crisis looming, what should be done?

[92tide]

this crap is going to get even more frantic and ridiculous the further trump and the gop are backed into a corner

 

[UAH]

This hurts Dems in the short term, but one thing you have to give them credit for is they know how to play the long game. There are currently enough illegals in this country to create 22 new seats in the House and they are just getting started.

This issue impacts politics in every developed, somewhat democratic, country particularly Western Europe. In Europe politics and food scarcity in Northern Africa (Syria) and the sub continent has millions on the move across the Mediterranean or into Eastern Europe with the objective of reaching Germany or the UK.

Anyone studying the problem from a strategic viewpoint understands that global warming, political and economic upheavil will cause massive movement of populations away from the equator.

Politicians always focus on brown people crossing our southern border but not a word about our broken Visa system or managing the Canadian Border. One only has to go into any corner gas station to appreciate just how many individuals are reaching here through our broken visa system.

We could go on for hours on all of the problems but the biggest problem is people like Trump who want to leverage the issue to gain power.

So there is no political will to do anything but talk.

 

[CrimsonJazz]

This issue impacts politics in every developed, somewhat democratic, country particularly Western Europe. In Europe politics and food scarcity in Northern Africa (Syria) and the sub continent has millions on the move across the Mediterranean or into Eastern Europe with the objective of reaching Germany or the UK.

Much to the chagrin of the people. The riots in France have been interesting and the pro-Gaza/Hamas demonstrations in the UK have certainly been eye-opening. You're right, this is a big problem for all developed nations and it's getting worse.

Anyone studying the problem from a strategic viewpoint understands that global warming, political and economic upheavil will cause massive movement of populations away from the equator.

I've yet to see a better argument for changing our foreign policy that seems to be causing much of this upheaval.

Politicians always focus on brown people crossing our southern border but not a word about our broken Visa system or managing the Canadian Border. One only has to go into any corner gas station to appreciate just how many individuals are reaching here through our broken visa system.

This feels like a false equivalency. Did I miss news stories about millions of disgruntled Canadians illegally crossing our border? I'm sure I would have heard about that. After all, one can only hear so many sentences end in "eh" before the mind starts to crack. But seriously, I do agree our visa system is awful.

We could go on for hours on all of the problems but the biggest problem is people like all politicians who want to leverage the issue to gain power.

FIFY. You don't seriously believe that all those pre-paid debit cards, free housing, free food, etc are being given out of the goodness of people's hearts, do you?

So there is no political will to do anything but talk.

No disagreement here. People in DC don't want solutions because fixing things robs them of those precious planks upon which they run and make their exaggerated claims and false promises.

 

[UAH]

this crap is going to get even more frantic and ridiculous the further trump and the gop are backed into a corner

I can't believe that we begin to see comments on the rediculous Replacement Theory on TideFans. It is proven over and over that the majority of Hispanics are conservative voters. Look at Florida that is highly populated by Hispanics voting Republican. Dems have made little progress in Southern Texas that is heavily Latino.

 

[UAH]

This feels like a false equivalency. Did I miss news stories about millions of disgruntled Canadians illegally crossing our border? I'm sure I would have heard about that. After all, one can only hear so many sentences end in "eh" before the mind starts to crack. But seriously, I do agree our visa system is awful.

Canadian immigration is much more open than the US because they have tradionally welcomed immigrants in order to at least maintain a viable economy. If anyone makes it to Canada they have a relatively small challenge to make it to Detroit or NYC.

The US faces much the same problem as Canada with us baby boomers retiring. A reasonable level of immigration into the US is a solution not a problem. You should come to Huntsville and walk on any greenway on the weekend to appreciate just how diverse high tech populations become.

 

[92tide]

I can't believe that we begin to see comments on the rediculous Replacement Theory on TideFans. It is proven over and over that the majority of Hispanics are conservative voters. Look at Florida that is highly populated by Hispanics voting Republican. Dems have made little progress in Southern Texas that is heavily Latino.

but it's totally not the great replacement theory

 

[CrimsonJazz]

Canadian immigration is much more open than the US because they have tradionally welcomed immigrants in order to at least maintain a viable economy. If anyone makes it to Canada they have a relatively small challenge to make it to Detroit or NYC.

The US faces much the same problem as Canada with us baby boomers retiring. A reasonable level of immigration into the US is a solution not a problem. You should come to Huntsville and walk on any greenway on the weekend to appreciate just how diverse high tech populations become.

On this, I totally agree. I've never had anything against immigration in and of itself. Populations are declining all over the place and this is the ace up our sleeve to provide some protection from economic disaster in the VERY near future. The immigration process is slow and expensive and this needs to change....yesterday.

I grow weary of the automatic notion that when someone like myself complains about the absurd number of unvetted people running across the border, we automatically become racist or some other moronic accusation. I'm reasonably certain if I was prejudiced against Hispanics, I wouldn't wake up next to one literally every single morning. People complain non-stop about drugs, guns and human trafficking but because reasons seem to have an aversion to acknowledging how this stuff keeps getting here. I know it's not all at the SB, but a significant amount of it is and it is time to do something about it.

 

[AWRTR]

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I can't believe that we begin to see comments on the rediculous Replacement Theory on TideFans. It is proven over and over that the majority of Hispanics are conservative voters. Look at Florida that is highly populated by Hispanics voting Republican. Dems have made little progress in Southern Texas that is heavily Latino.

I'm in Florida and you are dealing with a large Cuban population. They want nothing to do with anything that remotely smells of socialism. That group has had enough of that.

 

[AWRTR]

keep telling yourself that

I'm not sure if you are misreading my post or not. I'm saying the Democrats don't care about race and aren't trying to replace any group with another group. They want voters. I know some think otherwise but I don't see that. If they could gain more power with no immigration they would do that, but long term it is good for their electoral prospects. People underestimate the lust for power and wealth in our leadership class. They will burn your house down if they think it will help them.

 

[Go Bama]

I grow weary of the automatic notion that when someone like myself complains about the absurd number of unvetted people running across the border, we automatically become racist or some other moronic accusation.

I'm missing something. Did someone insinuate you are racist or "some other moronic accusation?"

 

[92tide]

this has been going on in the gop for a while

Opinion | Why white supremacists love Tucker Carlson's "great replacement" musings

There are still plenty of Americans seeking confirmation that their rank nativism is right.

www.nbcnews.com

The Fox News host tried during the segment to dodge the obvious racial overtones, arguing that “everyone wants to make a racial issue out of it.” Everyone is making this about race, because it is about race. And that’s easily proved by looking at the primary proponents of this rhetoric.

 

[CrimsonJazz]

People underestimate the lust for power and wealth in our leadership class. They will burn your house down if they think it will help them.

God Almighty, ain't that the truth. Sometimes I wonder if straight-party ticket voters aren't suffering from some sort of battered wife syndrome. When I think of establishment politicians, I try to imagine them as some abusive trash living in a trailer with a bottle of cheap whiskey in one hand and a well-worn belt in the other....just standing there with a derisive chuckle as he sees his people come crawling back once again. It's an astonishingly easy (and depressing) image to create.

 

[CrimsonJazz]

I'm missing something. Did someone insinuate you are racist or "some other moronic accusation?"

Just turn on MSNBC at any given time. It's like a small-town Wal-Mart, ya can't miss it.

 

[92tide]

Trump Falsely Claims ‘Crazed Democrats’ Allow ‘Unvetted Migrants’ To Vote

The statement builds on Trump’s increasingly incendiary anti-immigrant rhetoric.

www.forbes.com

 

[Go Bama]

Just turn on MSNBC at any given time. It's like a small-town Wal-Mart, ya can't miss it.

OK. I rarely watch MSNBC. It takes too much time.

 

[CrimsonJazz]

OK. I rarely watch MSNBC. It takes too much time.

I don't blame you; like Fox News, it's propagandist trash.

 

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For months, officials in Massachusetts have warned they were overwhelmed by the number of migrants arriving.

Healey said last year that the state’s emergency shelter system for families had reached capacity with 7,500 families.

At one point last year, the state’s lieutenant governor called on residents to consider housing migrants in their homes due to the lack of shelter space. And recently a delegation from the state traveled to the US Southern border to spread the word “about how Massachusetts is out of shelter space,” officials said.

Migrant families are now banned from sleeping in Boston’s airport