Bush Backs Gay Marriage Ban Amendment

[CrimsonNan]

This ought to give the Bush haters ulcers.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=1&u=/ap/20040224/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_gay_marriage_14

AP) - Jumping into a volatile election-year debate on same-sex weddings, President Bush on Tuesday backed a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage ? a move he said was needed to stop judges from changing the definition of the "most enduring human institution." "After more than two centuries of American jurisprudence and millennia of human experience, a few judges and local authorities are presuming to change the most fundamental institution of civilization," the president said in urging Congress to approve such an amendment.



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[Displaced Bama Fan]

Kudos to GWB. I don't say it much, but he did the right thing.

Now we need to get his immigration and spending policies under wrap.

 

[CrimsonNan]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Displaced Bama Fan:
Kudos to GWB. I don't say it much, but he did the right thing.

Now we need to get his immigration and spending policies under wrap.</font>

Agree Displaced.

 

[jthomas666]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by CrimsonNan:
This ought to give the Bush haters ulcers.

AP) - Jumping into a volatile election-year debate on same-sex weddings, President Bush on Tuesday backed a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage ? a move he said was needed to stop judges from changing the definition of the "most enduring human institution." </font>

What, Dubya's attempting to redefine prostitution?

Regardless, there are more important issues for him to address, such as homeland security. To paraphrase a columnist, "nobody really thinks a gay married couple is going to fly an airliner into downtown Los Angeles."

Exactly how will gay marriages destroy our society? Here's one view.

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[LoudBamaFan]

Dubya's ignorance level continues to amaze me. I expect such from public polls, because so many out there are ignornant to the topic. But for the leader of the free world to be so clueless is inexcusable.

It is perfectly fine to agree or disagree with someone being born gay. Some people will never be able to grasp that fact. But when that total lack of understanding tries to bleed over into law through someone like Dubya, then we have a serious problem.

All of these political figures today say we have to "protect" marriage. Question: From what?? Marriage rigts for straight people will not change in the least.

They also say "gay marriage shouldn't be forced on the citizens of this country." Question: What exactly is going to be forced on someone else?? I don't believe if gay marriage is legalized that all of us straight people will be forced to enter into a gay marriage. So it's absurd to feel threatend.

Everyone, gay or straight, as EQUAL HARD-WORKING, TAX PAYING AMERICAN CITIZENS, deserves the same rights and protections regardless of anyone else's personal convictions or beliefs, especially since many of those beliefs stem from ignorance, fear, hate or just a combination of them all justified by one's personal religious convictions.

We are all free to believe as we wish and hold whatever convictions we wish ON OUR ON TERMS. But when it comes to LAW, every U.S. citizen, REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE PRESIDENT THINKS, needs to have the same rights as the next.

If someone wants to go preach to a gay married couple about how wrong they think they are, FINE. There's no law banning anyone from doing that. Nor should there be....this is America, the land of the FREE...supposedly.

oh, and I'm also sick of hearing, "I'm against gay marriage but for civil union recognition and rights." GIVE ME A BREAK. "civil union" is a two-word description of MARRIAGE. Let's call it what it is.


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[IHateUT]

Way to take a stand against immorality Mr. President!!!

If standing up for your morals and believing in the sanctity of marriage makes you a dunce, then call me Forrest!

 

[LoudBamaFan]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by IHateUT:
Way to take a stand against immorality Mr. President!!!

If standing up for your morals and believing in the sanctity of marriage makes you a dunce, then call me Forrest!

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i never once said people shouldn't have morals. People should have whatever morals they choose. The government should not be deciding them for us, however.

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[jthomas666]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by IHateUT:
If standing up for your morals and believing in the sanctity of marriage makes you a dunce, then call me Forrest!
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OK, Forrest:

How does legal recognition of gay marriages jeopardize the American Way of life? Particularly since the nation appears to be affirming other rights with respect to "civil unions".

 

[TexasTide]

Although I agree with Bush and I think he had to take a stand one way or another, I don't think it matters. Activist judges already ignore the current laws and legislate from the bench. If they ignore laws already on the books what's one more?

The certificates being given to same sex couples in San Francisco are meaningless pieces of paper. There is no such thing as same-sex marriage in the state of California. Regardless of what their mayor claims, his power is not greater than that of the state in which his city is located. No residents of the same sex in the state of California are married. In Hawaii, yes, in California no.

I do believe this is a step in the right direction but it must be continued, with the Second Amendment and other Constitutional issues where judges have violated state constitutions and the Federal Constitution. Legislating from the bench (and by Mayors) must stop.

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[TexasTide]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by jthomas666:
OK, Forrest:

How does legal recognition of gay marriages jeopardize the American Way of life? Particularly since the nation appears to be affirming other rights with respect to "civil unions".</font>

Why don't you read the other threads with hundreds of posts answering this question over and over instead of starting it all again?

 

[PlayerUA]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by TexasTide:
Although I agree with Bush and I think he had to take a stand one way or another, I don't think it matters. Activist judges already ignore the current laws and legislate from the bench. If they ignore laws already on the books what's one more?
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I agree, afterall, those activist judges gave us our current president.

 

[TexasTide]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by jthomas666:

To paraphrase a columnist, "nobody really thinks a gay married couple is going to fly an airliner into downtown Los Angeles."

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Comments like this sound good until you think about them for 1/2 a second and realize they are pointless and then wonder why someone actually got paid to write it.

 

[TexasTide]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by PlayerUA:

I agree, afterall, those activist judges gave us our current president.</font>

You may want to check the political background of the Liberal Florida Supreme court before making absurd posts, you should also check into the voter fraud that occurred at Democratic precincts in numerous other states, in particular Missouri and New Mexico. Even Liberal media sources have gotten over this and agreed that after counting all the votes Bush still won.

You may also want to recall that on election day, every major news network reported that Gore had won Florida several hours before polls had closed and with only a very small percentage of precincts reporting in. The resulting effect was that a lot of Republicans did not vote. I admit that not voting was stupid, but the attempt to influence the vote in Florida by the media was well documented in the days after the election.

While your at it, locate all the missing absentee military ballots that never made it to Florida.

Funny how you've changed history to fit your current political views.

 

[LoudBamaFan]

I like what woman from the Human Rights organization just said on CNN:

"If President Bush was truley sincere about preserving the sanctity of marriage,he'd ban DIVORCE, NOT gay marriage."

 

[TexasTide]

It's a fringe group with a big mouth that guarantees networks like CNN will get lots of viewers which makes it appear they have a lot more support than they really do. The vast majority of America is against it.

If Kerry/Democratic nominee is wise they will remain silent on the issue. If they make a statement supporting same sex marriage, Bush will win easily in November.

 

[NatchezTider]

Good for the President! Good for America!

This will put pressure on Kerry/other liberals to take a stand. I doubt seriously if they'll side with the Prez on this one. When they don't it will further distance them from mainstream America.
What's it going to be, Demos....yay or nay? Grow a pair! Take a stand! Get pinned down! No double-talk, dodging, tail-wagging, straddling the fence! Come on Hollywood! Jump in there! Give it your best shot! Come out of the woodwork, Kennedy, Daschle, Waxman, Gephardt, Dean, Streisand, Sheen, Cher, O'Donut! Hillary/Billary, where are ya'll?

You fur it, or agin it?

 

[BamaJeff]

BRAVO, MR. PRESIDENT!

 

[Pachydermatous]

I've been laughing all day listening to prominent Democrats mouthing off on the issue. Teddy Kennedy came out with an indignant blast, saying in essence that Bush had set the civil rights movement back years.
Tom Daschle chimed in to remind everyone that he had voted for the marriage protection act. (He's running for re-election in South Dakota, so he can do little but stare at the ceiling.) Others are trying to speak without saying really anything.

Truly Democrats have their tails in a crack. Pour it on, Dubya. Ram it right down their throats.

 

[Mamacalled]

Player, ignorance is catching. THE ELECTION WAS WON! GET OVER IT! After several liberal groups including the Miami Herald recounted the votes which included the votes thrown out they concluded that George Bush still won. Learn the facts. I guess that you didn't care that thousands of our military votes were thrown out because the Democrats knew that they would favor Bush so they came up with "the postmark not right so they can't be counted."
Gays can marry just like I can marry. We just have to marry the opposite sex. They have the same rights. What next? Do we allow a brother and sister to marry because they should have the freedom to marry whoever they want? Should a man have three wives just because he should want to? He loves all three so why shouldn't he? She a 25 year old man be able to marry a 12 year old girl? What about their rights if they love each other.
And if the government shouldn't regulate morality then do away with murder, shoplifting, fraud. Is it not immoral to steal?

 

[jthomas666]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Mamacalled:
And if the government shouldn't regulate morality then do away with murder, shoplifting, fraud. Is it not immoral to steal?</font>

If someone kills you, you are harmed (duh). If someone steals from you, you are harmed. If two people of the same sex get married, how are you harmed?



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