BYU's Bronco Mendenhall Blames Corruption In College Football on SEC Coaches

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This is the exact reason why there needs to be a set of criteria that institutions must meet in order to participate in the BCS or AQ conferences. This is coming from a guy who's school's "religious beliefs" allows him to regularly have grown men playing on his team rather than immature 18 & 19 year old kids. That should be a huge advantage for him.
 

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This is the exact reason why there needs to be a set of criteria that institutions must meet in order to participate in the BCS or AQ conferences. This is coming from a guy who's school's "religious beliefs" allows him to regularly have grown men playing on his team rather than immature 18 & 19 year old kids. That should be a huge advantage for him.
It was for FSU with Weinke under center at 28 as well.
 

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I agree but that is not common with FSU's program either. It is a built in by-product with BYU because of their religious beliefs. They frequently have players on their team who are 22-25 years old because of the "mission trips" they are required to go on.
This is true. I don't mean this as a statement toward you, but I just find a lot of the dialogue that surrounds the BYU program to be overly critical and intolerant of their religious beliefs. They do not require students to go on missions (Jimmer chose not to go on one). I find it no different than any other student choosing to leave school for two years to pursue other endeavors and still having eligibility left. If that's what the student wants to do and the school will still accept them upon returning, that's their choice.

I'd also add that I don't even think it's an advantage. If you told CNS that he could have a team of players that are two years older but haven't played the game, been coached, studied film, or been in a weight training program for two years, he'd stick with what he has.
 

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This is true. I don't mean this as a statement toward you, but I just find a lot of the dialogue that surrounds the BYU program to be overly critical and intolerant of their religious beliefs. They do not require students to go on missions (Jimmer chose not to go on one). I find it no different than any other student choosing to leave school for two years to pursue other endeavors and still having eligibility left. If that's what the student wants to do and the school will still accept them upon returning, that's their choice.

I'd also add that I don't even think it's an advantage. If you told CNS that he could have a team of players that are two years older but haven't played the game, been coached, studied film, or been in a weight training program for two years, he'd stick with what he has.
It has nothing to do with their religious beliefs. I haven't seen any significant intolerance toward them regarding their religion in.....well....ever. But the fact still remains that however they end up with grown men on their team, whether by choice of the player or not, the end result is the same. They seem to frequently have players who are ove the age of 21. Does it come with disadvantages? I'm sure it does. Just about everything in life comes with pro's and con's. But I firmly believe it comes with a lot of advantages as well. I really don't think these guys that stay out of the game for their two years of missionary work don't keep themselves connected to the game in some form or fashion. There's no way a player (on average) could totally get out of the game physically and mentally for two years and then come back to play at the same level as other D-1 players who've been at it for two years. I'd be willing to bet they're still working out and I'm also sure there is a playbook stuck in that backpack with their Bible.
 

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It has nothing to do with their religious beliefs. I haven't seen any significant intolerance toward them regarding their religion in.....well....ever. But the fact still remains that however they end up with grown men on their team, whether by choice of the player or not, the end result is the same. They seem to frequently have players who are ove the age of 21. Does it come with disadvantages? I'm sure it does. Just about everything in life comes with pro's and con's. But I firmly believe it comes with a lot of advantages as well. I really don't think these guys that stay out of the game for their two years of missionary work don't keep themselves connected to the game in some form or fashion. There's no way a player (on average) could totally get out of the game physically and mentally for two years and then come back to play at the same level as other D-1 players who've been at it for two years. I'd be willing to bet they're still working out and I'm also sure there is a playbook stuck in that backpack with their Bible.
That's just common sense BB. Frankly I hadn't realized what an advantage that is...even though we could still beat'm!
 

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That's just common sense BB. Frankly I hadn't realized what an advantage that is...even though we could still beat'm!
I guess just knowing LDS members who have been on missions, I just see those two years as being far more of a disadvantage in player development than any advantage by them being two years older. Agree to disagree.
 

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I guess just knowing LDS members who have been on missions, I just see those two years as being far more of a disadvantage in player development than any advantage by them being two years older. Agree to disagree.
I would agree if we knew that for those two years the player didn't do anything football related to keep him somewhat "up to speed" and connected to the program while he was gone on missions. But I think a little common sense should lead us to there's noway you could routinely have kids stay COMPLETELY away from the game for two years, with no physical training such as weightlifting, cardio etc. and not as much as look at a playbook then come back and somehow catch up with other players who have already got a two year jump. The odds of that happening are slim to none.

Anyone who's ever "been in shape" then laid off for any length of time knows how fast one "loses" everything they've worked to get. It doesn't take long. I can only imagine completely laying off two years then coming back and how long it would take to get back to where they were two years ago. Because getting it back takes much longer than it took to lose it.
 

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This is a funny statement for a guy who coaches a team that just went independent. Why did they go independent? For the money.

It certainly wasn't for the preservation of the sanctity of the college athlete. So before he goes and casts stones at the SEC, he might want to look into the motives of his own University.
 
This is a funny statement for a guy who coaches a team that just went independent. Why did they go independent? For the money.

It certainly wasn't for the preservation of the sanctity of the college athlete. So before he goes and casts stones at the SEC, he might want to look into the motives of his own University.
It was for the money partially... it was also so they could have a better way of outreach for the LDS church through their own TV network.
 

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It was for the money partially... it was also so they could have a better way of outreach for the LDS church through their own TV network.
Let's not forget that if they do make it to a BCS game, they do not have to share that BCS payout with other conference members. Independence does have its advantages...
 

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For most folks, $250,000 per year, $4,000,000 per year, or $5,000,000 per year is much the same (i.e. a whole lot). Using the coaches' salaries as an example to question the amateur status of college athletics is just dumb. It's interesting that his salary isn't revealed. I did find this from 2007 (!)

estimates Mendenhall's salary at $900,000, but this figure is unconfirmed. Sources say Mendenhall was hired for half that in 2005.
...So when he was hired in 2005 he made $450,000. Interesting. I guess according to Bronco you can make nearly half a mil per year and still be an amateur.
 

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I agree but that is not common with FSU's program either. It is a built in by-product with BYU because of their religious beliefs. They frequently have players on their team who are 22-25 years old because of the "mission trips" they are required to go on.
AKA the Morman Redshirt System. :D
 

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What a naive moron. Let's take a billion dollar industry and just make it worthless. For no reason. Great idea.

It seems like the two representatives of BYU in that article are selling their program short. They need a PR guy. (A professional PR guy.)
 

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Summary analysis of article: Lots of hypocrisy laced with a thread of truth.

Basically a load of bunk! However Mendenhall's BYU Cougars are just as much to blame as everyone else. That new network didn't exactly make them poor.

Fact is the overwhelming majority of problems linked to intercollegiate BB & FB are directly linked to the ncaa/universities living a lie. Calling multi-billion dollar business amateur is a joke. Most BCS conference CFB & CBB players are in it 99% for one thing, the chance to make millions as a pro, period. Who can blame them? It's only natural for the players creating a multi-billion dollar business to expect a piece of the pie, rather than a crumb. The univ. of Alabama, the NCAA, and Pontiac are all still reaping the benefits of Tyrone Prothro's catch... while he gets not a penny... sickening really!

Turn it into semi-pro leagues, allow the kids to go to school, allow them to make whatever money they can in the free-market place, and still have the universities linked to the teams. It's easy but the honesty would cost the greedy universities millions in taxes. I wish they'd quit peeing on my head and telling me it's raining!
 
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