Concerning Diego Pavia( AKA Johnny Manzel II IMHO ), Is a Dedicated Spy Worth The Potential Reward Vs. The Risk?

graydogg85

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It is an era ruled by offense. The rules and schemes favor that side of the ball now and we aren't going back to the heyday of Coach Saban's defenses and earlier. While we can all point the finger at Pete, and there were major issues under him, you aren't going to shut down teams all the time. We got torched more and more often after 2017 even with Coach Saban modifying his system over time.

I think we need to commit to rushing more people (seems like we rush 3 too much and get burned) and we need better LB play. Gap integrity was not good against Georgia and it will be evident if we don't step it up against Vandy. I suspect we will struggle against Vandy because 5/8 in our two deep at DL are dinged or out. We've got good young talent along the DL and OL that looks like it will work better with DeBoer's scheme, but it has to be developed and supplemented with good portal additions.

We also needed a more portal ready system where we could play more guys and they could be ready faster. We aren't going to be stockpiling 4/5* talent and having them spend two years learning the system before they hit the field! We've already played more guys in meaningful time than we ever did under CNS, and I think that will help retain more players.
Agreed.

I actually think we are entering a cycle where defenses are starting to catch up, but elite defense doesn’t look like it did 20 years ago. The best ones limit scoring but are still giving up some yardage and chunk plays. The days of holding a good offense to 150 yards and 6 points are probably long gone, unless that offense just has a catastrophic day with multiple turnovers. You do, however, see fewer and fewer shootouts with both teams scoring in the 40s, which seemingly became almost the norm in elite matchups between 2012 - 2022 or so.

Holding Georgia to 21 points, and holding their starting QB under 150 yards passing, in their own stadium, is impressive. They hung 44 on Tennessee on the road and Stockton had 300 yards. This means that our defense largely did what our particular scheme was designed to do. We’d like to see fewer chunk running plays, but on the whole this is what the system is more or less supposed to look like against elite competition. Limit explosive passing plays, generate turnovers, and get stops in the red zone. Philosophically somewhat similar to our approach under Joe Kines.
 
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bamaga

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Its not the QB so much as the scheme. The Vandy offense is a lot like Malzahns with the motions and window dressings and getting the defense to flow one way and go against the flow. We didn't handle that very well with eye discipline and assignment football vs FSU , and we didnt handle it well vs Georgia. Most of their big plays came off misdirection and backs going against the flow of the defense. Our defense has to limit them to 24 points or less and our offense has to put pressure on them to score points. Complimentary football. If Alabama is back to being a contender, how they handle this game will say a lot.
 
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bamaga

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No matter how much better we are at the QB position this year than last, the offense really wasn't the problem against Vandy last year.

The defense completely blew it in that game.
But so did the offense, it was a totalteam effort to lose that game. Two turnovers that led to 14 Vandy points . A penalty that negated a first down and forced a punt. Another penalty that Negated a 49yard pass play and forced a punt from our own 8 that led to a Vandy FG. TOTAL TEAM LOSS
 
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arthurdawg

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Agreed.

I actually think we are entering a cycle where defenses are starting to catch up, but elite defense doesn’t look like it did 20 years ago. The best ones limit scoring but are still giving up some yardage and chunk plays. The days of holding a good offense to 150 yards and 6 points are probably long gone, unless that offense just has a catastrophic day with multiple turnovers. You do, however, see fewer and fewer shootouts with both teams scoring in the 40s, which seemingly became almost the norm in elite matchups between 2012 - 2022 or so.

Holding Georgia to 21 points, and holding their starting QB under 150 yards passing, in their own stadium, is impressive. They hung 44 on Tennessee on the road and Stockton had 300 yards. This means that our defense largely did what our particular scheme was designed to do. We’d like to see fewer chunk running plays, but on the whole this is what the system is more or less supposed to look like against elite competition. Limit explosive passing plays, generate turnovers, and get stops in the red zone. Philosophically somewhat similar to our approach under Joe Kines.

Yes... And after I wrote that, I'm always surprised when a high powered offense scores 13 points against an average defense one week and 48 against a top defense the next! It kinda fits the bend and don't break philosophy.
 
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BamaDMD

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Some other noteworthy stats from last years game. Pavia converted 13/18 on third down (66.7%).
Also TOP: 42 minutes for Vandy and 17minutes for Bama.

That cannot happen this year.
 
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