COVID-19, Vaccines, and Related Issues Part XIV

The media is fueling a lot of it because these celebrities die and they almost never list the cause until days, weeks or even moths later. Matthew Perry (a known junkie) dies in a hot tub all these iditos jumped on it and said the (again known junkie) died of the "clot shot". TUrns out that (shocker) it was drugs. Andre braugher dies and the first article said "brief illness". Like clockwork the anti-vax people said "clot shot". Turns out is was lung cancer. Of course these lunatics claim the shot caused that. I had an uncle many years ago (well before covid or "clot shot") that had severe "back pain". That (and a slight cough) was his only real symptoms. He went to the doctor and he had stage 5 lung cancer, he was dead a month later. I guarantee I could post that story without telling what year and they would jump on it and claim it was "clot shot" or "died suddenly". FYI, "died suddenly" is a favorite term of the media. They are doing this crap on purpose and it is annoying me.

Most of these idiots do not understand that the purpose of the Covid (and Flu) vaccine is to minimize the effects of Covid if you get it....not to totally keep you from being infected, but to keep you out of the hospital and/or the ICU -- especially if you are over 70 or immunocompromised. Like you, I tire of the anti-vaxxers and the media who fail to properly report.
 
The media is fueling a lot of it because these celebrities die and they almost never list the cause until days, weeks or even moths later. Matthew Perry (a known junkie) dies in a hot tub all these iditos jumped on it and said the (again known junkie) died of the "clot shot". TUrns out that (shocker) it was drugs. Andre braugher dies and the first article said "brief illness". Like clockwork the anti-vax people said "clot shot". Turns out is was lung cancer. Of course these lunatics claim the shot caused that. I had an uncle many years ago (well before covid or "clot shot") that had severe "back pain". That (and a slight cough) was his only real symptoms. He went to the doctor and he had stage 5 lung cancer, he was dead a month later. I guarantee I could post that story without telling what year and they would jump on it and claim it was "clot shot" or "died suddenly". FYI, "died suddenly" is a favorite term of the media. They are doing this crap on purpose and it is annoying me.

You would think that a media that is so sensitive to bigotry and misinformation that it has stopped using the word "foreign" (thanks to Ted Turner) and other words would realize, "You know, these dolts who latch onto the phrase 'died suddenly' are making this impossible so let's just say X passed and we don't know why yet."

But then again - the media in the USA has so little credibility on any issue any longer that they figure "this will get us clicks."

I also suspect so much of what appears online is AI stuff anyway.

How many times do you see one of those stories "cause of death for X revealed" and then you click on it - and it NEVER answers the promise of the headline?

Here's a real one for you: this whole "these young athletes were never dropping dead during contests."


YES THEY WERE!!!!


I did a search of newspapers in the 1960s, and I found several each year in high schools and particularly small colleges. But it doesn't matter to these morons - you show them that there's nothing uncommon about it and they revert to "that doesn't prove anything."

Yes, it does, it proves you don't know what you're talking about.

The only difference now is that Facebook and Twitter can fire off a lie around the world before the autopsy has even begun.

A relative of a high school classmate of my Dad's collapsed and died at 18 years old in Marine boot camp 40 years ago - because he had a congenital heart defect unknown until he died.

I know who Flo Hyman was, and I saw Hank Gathers die. If Pete Maravich died today, imbeciles would be out before we knew anything but he died with "clot shot!"
 
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I drink a LOT of OJ.

I like the extra pulp types!

Today while shopping a fellow shopper mentioned Apple Cider Vinegar as being helpful to assist with preventing sicknesses.

I didn't realize you could get it in pill form but there it was on the shelf so I bought a bottle - along with some more vitamin C chewables.

This time of year......gotta think preventative!
 
I received a Covid booster in September -- checked with my MD @ MUSC Cancer center and was told that the new Covid booster is different...I need to get one 3 months after the other. So, January will be the time...
 
They cleared me today to return to work on Monday (Christmas Day, next day I'm scheduled).
I have to wear a mask but that may not matter - because the hospital is seriously considering going back to mask mandate in the building.

Started getting better over a 24-hour period around 3 pm Wednesday afternoon, gradually got better. Still a little stuffy, but I can talk and breathe and taste things.
 
They cleared me today to return to work on Monday (Christmas Day, next day I'm scheduled).
I have to wear a mask but that may not matter - because the hospital is seriously considering going back to mask mandate in the building.

Started getting better over a 24-hour period around 3 pm Wednesday afternoon, gradually got better. Still a little stuffy, but I can talk and breathe and taste things.
My wife unfortunately turned up with Paxlovid rebound - positive again this morning. So far, I'm bulletproof. I've lived in a house suffused with the virus for weeks. She wears a mask when out of the bedroom (I'm not sharing it), doesn't prepare food and we use separate utensils, etc. IOW, pretty minimal precautions. Unfortunately, I took a single 20 mg Prednisone last night for a separate problem, which I regretted this AM. My temps range in the low 97s, normal for me and her also. After one day of the Paxlovid, hers dropped to the low 97s and that's where it is today. She's not having the worst symptoms, the crushing fatigue, etc., but she is sleeping a lot...
 
My wife unfortunately turned up with Paxlovid rebound - positive again this morning. So far, I'm bulletproof. I've lived in a house suffused with the virus for weeks. She wears a mask when out of the bedroom (I'm not sharing it), doesn't prepare food and we use separate utensils, etc. IOW, pretty minimal precautions. Unfortunately, I took a single 20 mg Prednisone last night for a separate problem, which I regretted this AM. My temps range in the low 97s, normal for me and her also. After one day of the Paxlovid, hers dropped to the low 97s and that's where it is today. She's not having the worst symptoms, the crushing fatigue, etc., but she is sleeping a lot...
Hope she’s back to 100% soon. Our church choir passed it around a couple of weeks ago. No one needed hospitalization, but lots of fatigue and a bad cough. Most were in their 70’s, but have done well overall.
 
Hope she’s back to 100% soon. Our church choir passed it around a couple of weeks ago. No one needed hospitalization, but lots of fatigue and a bad cough. Most were in their 70’s, but have done well overall.
Liz is 80, but in good health overall. She did so well the first time that, after the first day, she started to decline Paxlovid, but finally caved. Taking it inflates your chances of rebound from 2% to 20%, something you rarely hear about...
 
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As a parent with a 2yr old with asthma who spent a week in the hospital this year due to respiratory viruses, this is kind of relevant with the impact this virus has had on ppl with asthma.

‘A huge shock to the system’: Doctors warn about asthma inhaler switch coming in January | CNN

We have to be super diligent with inhalers during respiratory virus season. Luckily we were able to get 6 months re-filled to give us time to figure out an alternative, but I was shocked the pharmacist didn't even know it was being discontinued. I guess that is the difference between big box pharmacies and the local hometown shops i remember as a kid.
 
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My wife unfortunately turned up with Paxlovid rebound - positive again this morning. So far, I'm bulletproof. I've lived in a house suffused with the virus for weeks. She wears a mask when out of the bedroom (I'm not sharing it), doesn't prepare food and we use separate utensils, etc. IOW, pretty minimal precautions. Unfortunately, I took a single 20 mg Prednisone last night for a separate problem, which I regretted this AM. My temps range in the low 97s, normal for me and her also. After one day of the Paxlovid, hers dropped to the low 97s and that's where it is today. She's not having the worst symptoms, the crushing fatigue, etc., but she is sleeping a lot...

Earle, the scary thing about the current variant is that you can be a carrier and not really know it. As I intimated a week or so ago, I had a case of post-nasal drip, slight runny nose, and an infrequent dry cough. I just treated it with Flonase and went about my business, It never crossed my mind to get a COVID test. I went to work, went to the gym, went out to eat. A few days later, I got to thinking: What if this is COVID? Took the test and it went red immediately.

So I was kind of like Typhoid Mary, unbeknowst. I guess in the future I will have to take a COVID test every time I get any upper respiratory symptoms?
 
As nasty as getting covid is, all this is a great reminder of the benefits of being vaccinated.

I have no doubt that without vaccination, the above instances of people getting covid and it being more an uncomfortable inconvenience than anything else would be a lot more severe -- especially the choir of 70+ year olds that got sick but nobody had any really bad outcomes.

As for Mrs. Basket Case and me, we had our time in the barrel in September. Starting in March of 2021 I've had every vaccine and booster I could get my hands on, as soon as I could get them. Still had a brutal first full day. As bad as I felt, I'm pretty sure I would have been hospitalized without the vaccines. Also, my experience with Paxlovid was positive...made a huge and immediate difference in how I felt, though I didn't get truly full stamina (such as that exists for a 64-year-old) back for a few weeks.

Mrs. Basket Case had an easier time, but got Paxlovid the first day, whereas I stupidly didn't insist until Day 3.

Point of all that being: I'm sure I would have had a much worse experience without vaccination and anti-viral drugs. Still amazes me that we as a country went from lockdown with essentially no effective treatments beyond mechanical ventilation in March of 2020, to an effective vaccine 9 months later, and ramp-up of production to enable a national rollout by March of 2021.

I think we'll look back on that 9-month sprint as a milestone in medical science.
 
As a parent with a 2yr old with asthma who spent a week in the hospital this year due to respiratory viruses, this is kind of relevant with the impact this virus has had on ppl with asthma.

‘A huge shock to the system’: Doctors warn about asthma inhaler switch coming in January | CNN

We have to be super diligent with inhalers during respiratory virus season. Luckily we were able to get 6 months re-filled to give us time to figure out an alternative, but I was shocked the pharmacist didn't even know it was being discontinued. I guess that is the difference between big box pharmacies and the local hometown shops i remember as a kid.
I have to keep some around, along with Epipens, because of my AGS, but I looked and they're all just for emergency, IOW albuterol. I have Flonase, which is the same compound as a nasal spray. It's available OTC as a generic, but I prefer their applicator. Seems odd that insurance companies wouldn't cover the generic, when they usually insist on it...
 
Earle, the scary thing about the current variant is that you can be a carrier and not really know it. As I intimated a week or so ago, I had a case of post-nasal drip, slight runny nose, and an infrequent dry cough. I just treated it with Flonase and went about my business, It never crossed my mind to get a COVID test. I went to work, went to the gym, went out to eat. A few days later, I got to thinking: What if this is COVID? Took the test and it went red immediately.

So I was kind of like Typhoid Mary, unbeknowst. I guess in the future I will have to take a COVID test every time I get any upper respiratory symptoms?
James, I tested along with Liz at the beginning, but I showed negative each time. I did that out of fear of what happened to you. My genetic tests show me as naturally highly resistant to viruses (immune to norovirus), so that was a concern. It burned through a lot of our tests, so much that I had to buy extra, above the USPS issue. Man, they're expensive now, and, according to my pharmacy, not reimbursable through Medicare or BCBS...
 
James, I tested along with Liz at the beginning, but I showed negative each time. I did that out of fear of what happened to you. My genetic tests show me as naturally highly resistant to viruses (immune to norovirus), so that was a concern. It burned through a lot of our tests, so much that I had to buy extra, above the USPS issue. Man, they're expensive now, and, according to my pharmacy, not reimbursable through Medicare or BCBS...

I didn't want to ask my wife where she placed all the myriad of free test kits we received.....so I went to Walgreens and plunked down $23 for two tests. Now, I know where the stash is at home, so I put some away for the next time she moves them into the black hole. :D
 
I have to keep some around, along with Epipens, because of my AGS, but I looked and they're all just for emergency, IOW albuterol. I have Flonase, which is the same compound as a nasal spray. It's available OTC as a generic, but I prefer their applicator. Seems odd that insurance companies wouldn't cover the generic, when they usually insist on it...

2yrold has egg and peanut allergy too. So we have epipen. We also have albuterol inhaler for when she actually gets sick. That albuterol shortage was fun this year.

End if the day pharma jacked the Flovent price up so much they would have been penalized To the point of losing money under the new law. I think the non insurance amt is almost $400 an inhaler. So they discontinue and license out to generics instead. Prime example of what is wrong with healthcare and pharma in the US today.
 
I didn't want to ask my wife where she placed all the myriad of free test kits we received.....so I went to Walgreens and plunked down $23 for two tests. Now, I know where the stash is at home, so I put some away for the next time she moves them into the black hole. :D
I had to jettison a bunch of tests which were expired, even with the FDA extension period, so we didn't have as big an inventory as I thought...
 

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