Crime blotter

[4Q Basket Case]

May as well place this here. After hearing only part of the Kohberger evidence, there's no doubt he was heading for the death penalty. John Miller, whom I always pay attention to, made a chilling remark the other night. He said we'll never know if this were his first murder or not. One pattern for serial killer is to move far away. OTOH, if they feel comfortable in one area, they'll stick in the home area, like the Long Island killer, Heuermann ("Horror Man," in German)...

If Kohlberger was headed for the needle or a firing squad), why do you think the prosecution went for the deal?

IOW, how is it that the defense felt bad enough about the evidence that they agreed to LIPWP (essentially death in prison), but the prosecution didn't feel strong enough to go to trial with capital punishment on the table.

True, he'll die in prison one way or another. But in the meantime, the taxpayers have to support him.

Maybe a 100% chance of getting him off the streets forever vs. a 1% chance that some juror might go rogue?

 

[Padreruf]

If Kohlberger was headed for the needle or a firing squad), why do you think the prosecution went for the deal?

IOW, how is it that the defense felt bad enough about the evidence that they agreed to LIPWP (essentially death in prison), but the prosecution didn't feel strong enough to go to trial with capital punishment on the table.

True, he'll die in prison one way or another. But in the meantime, the taxpayers have to support him.

Maybe a 100% chance of getting him off the streets forever vs. a 1% chance that some juror might go rogue?

Your last sentence says it all....no such thing as an open and shut case anymore.

 

[4Q Basket Case]

Regarding the Bibb County child sex ring, news said this morning that the suspects waived right to bond.

IOW, they feel safer in jail than out in the community. I could argue either way on that. The community might not be a safe place, especially given that their "clientele" might want to make sure they tell no tales. But jail is far from a comfortable place for child sex offenders. And I don't think other prisoners will be inclined to hold off because they're only accused, not convicted.

Years ago, I had a boss who had earned money in college as a prison guard in the Texas state prison system. He said that the reason child molesters were on the lowest rung of the prison hierarchy was the personal history of many of the inmates.

He said that, as children, virtually all of the inmates had been physically abused. And many of them had also been sexually abused. So a chance to gang up on a child molester was a chance to exact revenge on their own long-ago molesters.

 

[DzynKingRTR]

Regarding the Bibb County child sex ring, news said this morning that the suspects waived right to bond.

IOW, they feel safer in jail than out in the community. I could argue either way on that. The community might not be a safe place, especially given that their "clientele" might want to make sure they tell no tales. But jail is far from a comfortable place for child sex offenders. And I don't think other prisoners will be inclined to hold off because they're only accused, not convicted.

Years ago, I had a boss who had earned money in college as a prison guard in the Texas state prison system. He said that the reason child molesters were on the lowest rung of the prison hierarchy was the personal history of many of the inmates.

He said that, as children, virtually all of the inmates had been physically abused. And many of them had also been sexually abused. So a chance to gang up on a child molester was a chance to exact revenge on their own long-ago molesters.

they prisons usually keep the people that did stuff to kids separate from the rest of the prisoners. They don't get put in general population for their "safety".

 

[crimsonaudio]

they prisons usually keep the people that did stuff to kids separate from the rest of the prisoners. They don't get put in general population for their "safety".

Which is ridiculous - they deserve the same level of safety as their victims.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again - there is nothing lower than sexually abusing a child. In a truly civilized society it should be a capital offense.

 

[Bazza]

Poor little Pitty.......this dirt bag deserves a hammer to the head.....and I don't think anyone there would have disapproved.......

 

[TIDE-HSV]

If Kohlberger was headed for the needle or a firing squad), why do you think the prosecution went for the deal?

IOW, how is it that the defense felt bad enough about the evidence that they agreed to LIPWP (essentially death in prison), but the prosecution didn't feel strong enough to go to trial with capital punishment on the table.

True, he'll die in prison one way or another. But in the meantime, the taxpayers have to support him.

Maybe a 100% chance of getting him off the streets forever vs. a 1% chance that some juror might go rogue?

The answer is that prosecutors will almost always go for the safe deal, even when the victims' families are not in agreement. Also, there's the cost factor. Believe it or not, it's far cheaper to maintain someone, even at 30, than pursue the death penalty, with its cost, both obvious and hidden. That ignores the well-known fact that weirdos like him frequently don't last long in genpop...

 

[Bazza]

Good for the Georgia State Police for not allowing SW Airlines to take over.......gotta protect the people of Georgia.........

 

[Bamaro]

A 13-year-old boy with 18 prior felony arrests has been apprehended again, this time for a series of armed carjackings and robberies that took place across Baltimore from July 26 to 27, according to the Baltimore Police.

During the investigation, officials identified one of the suspects as a 13-year-old male by using his ankle monitor GPS system, which placed him at each incident, according to police.

The 13-year-old was arrested and transported to juvenile booking, where he is charged with carjacking, robbery, assault, and several other offenses, officials said.
13-year-old arrested in Baltimore for armed carjackings and robberies

 

[crimsonaudio]

Sometimes you have to do something you don't want in order to protect the public.

Lock this kid up.

 

[TIDE-HSV]

Sometimes you have to do something you don't want in order to protect the public.

Lock this kid up.

Kids younger than he have been declared adult in Alabama...

 

[crimsonaudio]

Kids younger than he have been declared adult in Alabama...

It's hard to argue they have an adult understanding of their actions, but at some point the reality is their danger to society outweighs the sad reality that they were 'raised' by trash people.

13 is so young, but goodness, the safety of the people has to be more important than an individual's in (sadly, not too rare) cases like this.

 

[Bazza]

Iryna Zarutska, a 23-year-old Ukrainian refugee who came to the United States following the Russian invasion of her country, was fatally stabbed on her way home from work close to 10 p.m. on Aug. 22, according to the Charlotte-Mecklenburg Police Department. NewsNation’s Markie Martin breaks down the case.

 

[crimsonaudio]

Iryna Zarutska, a 23-year-old Ukrainian refugee who came to the United States following the Russian invasion of her country, was fatally stabbed on her way home from work close to 10 p.m. on Aug. 22, according to the Charlotte-Mecklenburg Police Department.

Unless / until we stop letting lifelong criminals out to terrorize the average law-abiding citizens this sort of garbage will continue.

Pieces of crap like Decarlos Brown are why I'm fine with mandatory life sentences after multiple felony convictions (say, three). If you cannot avoid that, the public deserves to be protected from your stupidity.

Appalling past of serial criminal accused of murdering Ukrainian woman

Decarlos Brown, 35, was charged with the stabbing murder of Iryna Zarutska, 23, who moved to the US seeking safety from the Ukraine-Russia war.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Bazza]

Unless / until we stop letting lifelong criminals out to terrorize the average law-abiding citizens this sort of garbage will continue.

Pieces of crap like Decarlos Brown are why I'm fine with mandatory life sentences after multiple felony convictions (say, three). If you cannot avoid that, the public deserves to be protected from your stupidity.

Appalling past of serial criminal accused of murdering Ukrainian woman

Decarlos Brown, 35, was charged with the stabbing murder of Iryna Zarutska, 23, who moved to the US seeking safety from the Ukraine-Russia war.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Decarlos Brown was arrested FOURTEEN times and released every single time.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1964523255764832420

 

[Bazza]

And this folks......is what's known in America as a "kitchen table" issue.

 

[Huckleberry]

Unless / until we stop letting lifelong criminals out to terrorize the average law-abiding citizens this sort of garbage will continue.

Pieces of crap like Decarlos Brown are why I'm fine with mandatory life sentences after multiple felony convictions (say, three). If you cannot avoid that, the public deserves to be protected from your stupidity.

I get where you’re coming from. People deserve to feel safe, and when someone like Brown keeps cycling in and out of the system, it’s hard not to feel like the courts failed everyone.

That said, blanket “three strikes” laws have had problems in the past, especially when they’ve been used on nonviolent offenses. Where I agree with you is on violent felonies. if you keep proving you’re a danger, society has every right to step in permanently. Brown’s record would’ve likely qualified a long time ago.

At the same time, this isn’t only about sentencing. Mental health evaluations that never happened, plea deals that watered down charges, and a clogged court system all played a role too. If any of those pieces had worked like they should, this tragedy could’ve been prevented.

We need to be tougher on repeat violent offenders, but we also need to fix the holes in the system that let guys like this slip through. Otherwise, we’ll just keep having the same conversation after the next tragedy.

 

[some_al_fan]

Pieces of crap like Decarlos Brown are why I'm fine with mandatory life sentences after multiple felony convictions (say, three). If you cannot avoid that, the public deserves to be protected from your stupidity.

Nothing wrong with a death penalty in such cases.

 

[crimsonaudio]

I get where you’re coming from. People deserve to feel safe, and when someone like Brown keeps cycling in and out of the system, it’s hard not to feel like the courts failed everyone.

That said, blanket “three strikes” laws have had problems in the past, especially when they’ve been used on nonviolent offenses. Where I agree with you is on violent felonies. if you keep proving you’re a danger, society has every right to step in permanently. Brown’s record would’ve likely qualified a long time ago.

At the same time, this isn’t only about sentencing. Mental health evaluations that never happened, plea deals that watered down charges, and a clogged court system all played a role too. If any of those pieces had worked like they should, this tragedy could’ve been prevented.

We need to be tougher on repeat violent offenders, but we also need to fix the holes in the system that let guys like this slip through. Otherwise, we’ll just keep having the same conversation after the next tragedy.

All good points, with one caveat - I couldn't care less if someone is mentally ill, if they're a threat to public safety they need to be off the streets. I've been quite vocal that we need state-sponsored mental health care, but at the very least, those who are a danger to society should be locked up.

Just as vaccines are about the greater good, so should laws regarding public safety.

 

[Huckleberry]

All good points, with one caveat - I couldn't care less if someone is mentally ill, if they're a threat to public safety they need to be off the streets. I've been quite vocal that we need state-sponsored mental health care, but at the very least, those who are a danger to society should be locked up.

Just as vaccines are about the greater good, so should laws regarding public safety.

I agree 100%