Dabo loses it on a fan....

Ole Man Dan

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Getting "respect" demands "giving" respect. I don't remember Coach Bryant ever talking bad about fans. He knew that at Alabama that it is about "winning" and he knew the consequences of not winning. He took accountability for the product on the field and handled it well. CNS knows what is expected of him at Alabama, just like Coach Bryant knew the expectations.

Dabo has been defensive since "day 1" when his hire was questioned. He is defensive in front of the press and the fans. When he reaches back to the Danny Ford years for a reference, it's a "look at what I've done" moment. It's still about him and it's not about the players or the school. Yes, the sidewalk fan does have a stake in the matter.
Danny Ford was THE MAN'. 'Debo' never will be.
 
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Both the fan and Dabo were off the rails, failing to grant the other any respect. But Dabo is the one in the position of power and he has a responsibility in how he wields that power.

You can't call a fan an idiot when he's just frustrated and upset with the performance of the team.

You can't call what you did "standing up for your team." What you did was self-indulged ranting to sooth your frustration with your own ineptitude. You were taking up for yourself an no one else.

Clemson can keep him forever.
 

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Could not disagree more.

HCs don't 'deserve' to be treated any differently than anyone else. Heck, in the grand scheme of things, a high-profile CFB HC is about as "important" as a pop star - maybe lots of influence in some circles, but very little significance in anyone's life outside of entertainment.

They might love being placed on pedestals, but they're not above being called out for poor performance. Do the job at the same level you're being paid to perform or deal with the sniping from the masses.
Fair enough. I don't think there is one fan anywhere not having been in such a complicated job as a high profile Head Coach that can accurately judge what a man does in that position. But that is just how I see it. I do agree that the record at this point might suggest issues overall. I am no Clemson fan. I do agree there are ways to handle media outlets and fans. His way was not the best for sure. He acts and sounds like pressure is immense to me. He needs to decide if he is still up to that job or get out. Fans do have opinions. Fact. I don't disagree on that. If he disrespects them..that reciprocated shortly.
 

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Both the fan and Dabo were off the rails, failing to grant the other any respect. But Dabo is the one in the position of power and he has a responsibility in how he wields that power.

You can't call a fan an idiot when he's just frustrated and upset with the performance of the team.

You can't call what you did "standing up for your team." What you did was self-indulged ranting to sooth your frustration with your own ineptitude. You were taking up for yourself an no one else.

Clemson can keep him forever.
Yep. Gotta show respect. Money or no. That is all I meant. Totally agree. I never wanted him to replace CNS. I agree with what 'Audio says as well. I must have seen a different video from you guys. If a HC is on tape responding to a fan in that way then I would think that he AND the AD would be called in. I certainly would have been had I spoke to a client that way. Some fans do get out of line, but they aren't professionals. Coach Bryant didn't care for a lot of fan behavior, but he knew what would solve it. The Wishbone. Got rid of the "He is done" critics. And Dabo is not Paul Bryant.
 

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Fair enough. I don't think there is one fan anywhere not having been in such a complicated job as a high profile Head Coach that can accurately judge what a man does in that position. But that is just how I see it. I do agree that the record at this point might suggest issues overall. I am no Clemson fan. I do agree there are ways to handle media outlets and fans. His way was not the best for sure. He acts and sounds like pressure is immense to me. He needs to decide if he is still up to that job or get out. Fans do have opinions. Fact. I don't disagree on that. If he disrespects them..that reciprocated shortly.
I don't have to understand the first thing about Xs and Os to know a 4-4 record in the ACC isn't good enough for $10m a year.

I may not be able to diagnose what the issue is, but Karen Awwshucks isn't splitting the atom here - she's trying to get 22 young men to work together to achieve a goal, and she's failing.

The reality is even a casual fan can see this an understand something is wrong:
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I don't have to understand the first thing about Xs and Os to know a 4-4 record in the ACC isn't good enough for $10m a year.

I may not be able to diagnose what the issue is, but Karen Awwshucks isn't splitting the atom here - she's trying to get 22 young men to work together to achieve a goal, and she's failing.

The reality is even a casual fan can see this an understand something is wrong:
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I'm surprised no one has mentioned that once he lost his longtime offensive and defensive coordinators that the wheels on the Dabo bus seem to be wobbly at best. He obviously doesn't have the football knowledge that Coach Saban does.
 

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Thin skinned?

He's just telling it like it is.

Sick and tired of these little entitled butt hurt (so-called) fans who cannot handle losing a football game.

The disrespect to ask a coach that question.....his parents must be proud..... :rolleyes:
It's a valid question though, why is he one of the highest paid coaches in college football but sitting at the middle of the pack or worse in team results? He's not utilizing the transfer portal, he isn't making his assistant coaches better, and they had a favorable yet marginal difference in coaching turnover compared to our own program. You expect me to believe this dabo has the same teeth as when he had Brent Venables (DC) and Jeff Scott (OC) helping him out for 10-15 years. Jeff Scott is the head coach over at South Florida and y'all remember how well they did with our team. OU although lost a tough one to Kansas in the last bit of their game, OU is piecing things together nicely in their last year in the Big 12. The Head Coach can only control so much, but I think Clemson's glory years with Dabo are winding down as a result of losing key coaching personnel that was intact for almost a decade.

I don't think he handled the question very well, however I understand the frustration.
 
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His whole persona when pressured just isn't a good look. If he practices what he preaches he could have responded in more tactful and gentle way. He doesn't really deal with the public very well for someone professing to be as religious as he does. We are all human of course in our every day life, but those occasions require more tact. He sounds like he doesn't like the people that help pay his bills.

He gets one call like that and he goes ballistic and says he doesn't have to take the criticism and might not have a call in show next season. Talk about your overreactions.
 
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Like some others, I thought about how I think Coach Bryant would have approached this though I don't know exactly what the question was from the fan. Coach Bryant would have probably told the fan he was correct and that Coach was doing a terrible job but was working to fix it.

For a man of faith, Sweeney did not show humility during his rant when he listed his accomplishments.
 

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I'm surprised no one has mentioned that once he lost his longtime offensive and defensive coordinators that the wheels on the Dabo bus seem to be wobbly at best. He obviously doesn't have the football knowledge that Coach Saban does.
In addition to losing the coordinators, he also hasn’t had a QB in the same universe as DeShaun Watson or Trevor Lawrence.
 

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If we lose to LSU and the barn somebody call Saban and tell him he isn’t earning his money. Think we could post his response on here?
No, but I'd happily ask him that question if Bama ended the season 8-4.

It's not personal - I like and respect Saban - but that doesn't mean he gets a pass wrt his responsibility.
 

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I don't have to understand the first thing about Xs and Os to know a 4-4 record in the ACC isn't good enough for $10m a year.

I may not be able to diagnose what the issue is, but Karen Awwshucks isn't splitting the atom here - she's trying to get 22 young men to work together to achieve a goal, and she's failing.

The reality is even a casual fan can see this an understand something is wrong:
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Yeah that is true. Ain't getting it I agree already. It wasn't about the record. I didn't even know the record. Couldn't care less. It was about what he said versus the other guy. That is all. Period. Sorry to have touched nerves.

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