Could easily change the headline to
Former Stasi raid man’s home over tweet mocking Greens’ politician
Our First Amendment was written exactly to counter this.
Defining free speech
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Former Stasi raid man’s home over tweet mocking Greens’ politician
Our First Amendment was written exactly to counter this.
We are about to find out who is serious about the 1A and who isn’t.
Whatever you say that gets you into trouble in the public square (as long as it is not libelous, slanderous, a copyright infringement, or an incitement to violence), I will say as well, so you will not stand alone. If convicted, maybe we can share a cell together.
If you get arrested for saying Trump is a Schwachkopf, I will say it as well.
The 1A can be quite cumbersome and unruly, but it is pure genius in maintaining a "free and open" society. Amazingly when people make unpopular statements there are those who advocate censorship of some sort. I have to remind them that our right to free expression is inextricably tied to their right to the same.
Hong Kong/China and the USSR are prime examples of what happens when the government controls public speech.
Hong Kong/China and the USSR are prime examples of what happens when the government controls public speech.
This is funny and scary at the same time.
The British Twitter Stasi
So, British woman tweets "My cat might be a Methodist because she likes Dreamies Cat Treats." She asked a friend to report her for hate crimes to test the system. Now she has a police record for "hate speech."
The British Twitter Stasi
So, British woman tweets "My cat might be a Methodist because she likes Dreamies Cat Treats." She asked a friend to report her for hate crimes to test the system. Now she has a police record for "hate speech."
This sort of thing is why I'll die before I'll give up free speech.
It's kind of sad, really.
Brits have stood up to a lot of bullies in the past
Now they are just lying down for this and many are even calling it a good thing.
I've been calling this out for months now. The entire UK is collapsing under this nonsense. Ireland is unrecognizable now. I keep waiting on those pipe-hittin' boys from Belfast to rise up and say "enough!"
Yes, Mark Zuckerberg, you can shout 'fire' in a crowded theater
Anyone discussing free speech should at least try to get this right.
reason.com
I'm reasonably certain most of us already knew this, but it's worth repeating because there are still FAR too many people who still fall back on this weary old chestnut (and a disturbing number of them are people who should know better.)
“The Threat From Within”: J.D. Vance Delivers a Historic Defense of Free Speech
Below is my column in the Hill on the historic defense of free speech by Vice President J.D. Vance in Munich last week. Where John F. Kennedy went to Berlin to declare “Ich bin ein Berliner,” Vance…
jonathanturley.org
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Trump Officials Attack a German Consensus on Nazis and Speech
Vice President JD Vance and Elon Musk have challenged decades-long approaches to political extremism that were designed to prevent another Hitler.
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Eighty years after American soldiers liberated Dachau, top German officials this weekend all-but accused Mr. Vance  and by extension, President Trump  of boosting a political party that many Germans consider to be dangerously descended from Nazism.
That party, called the Alternative for Germany, or AfD, is sitting second in the polls for next Sunday’s parliamentary elections, with about 20 percent of the public saying they support it. But no other German party is willing to govern with it. That’s because the AfD has at times downplayed Hitler’s atrocities. Some party members have reveled in Nazi slogans.
German intelligence agencies have classified parts of the AfD as extremist. Members have been arrested in connection with multiple plots to overthrow the government. Some reportedly attended last year a gathering that included discussions of deporting not only asylum seekers, but German citizens who immigrated to the country.
Well, it's no wonder Vance and Musk speak kindly of AfD (as have posters here). It seems to have much in common with the Republican Party.
Trump Officials Attack a German Consensus on Nazis and Speech
Vice President JD Vance and Elon Musk have challenged decades-long approaches to political extremism that were designed to prevent another Hitler.
...
Eighty years after American soldiers liberated Dachau, top German officials this weekend all-but accused Mr. Vance  and by extension, President Trump  of boosting a political party that many Germans consider to be dangerously descended from Nazism.
That party, called the Alternative for Germany, or AfD, is sitting second in the polls for next Sunday’s parliamentary elections, with about 20 percent of the public saying they support it. But no other German party is willing to govern with it. That’s because the AfD has at times downplayed Hitler’s atrocities. Some party members have reveled in Nazi slogans.
German intelligence agencies have classified parts of the AfD as extremist. Members have been arrested in connection with multiple plots to overthrow the government. Some reportedly attended last year a gathering that included discussions of deporting not only asylum seekers, but German citizens who immigrated to the country.
Well, it's no wonder Vance and Musk speak kindly of AfD (as have posters here). It seems to have much in common with the Republican Party.
The guy who sat next to me in NATO was a German citizen. He was completely fine with government censorship. He was actually appalled that Americans could say things the Federal government disagreed with. I suggested that the officials of the Federal government have a checkered track record when it comes to determining what is The Truth.
"The only good Indian is a dead Indian." Gen. Phil Sheridan.
"Yes, we are going to treat your syphilis" U.S. Public Health Service.
"I'm not a crook." Dick Nixon
"Two weeks to stop the spread."
"If you get the vaccine, you can no longer spread Covid."
When I heard that that the polizei had arrested a German citizen for saying the German Federal Economics Minister was a "Schwachkopf," (weak head), I thought that was inconsistent with western liberal democratic standards of dissent and political discourse. Who is to say it is not true? He might be quite weak in the head.
Patrick Henry said, "Caesar had his Brutus, Charles I had his Cromwell, and George III ..." (Here he was interrupted with cries of "Treason!") "... George III may benefit by their example." That is political dissent in my view. In my view, Germany and Britain are getting it wrong.
Malicious compliance.
Elementary school library throwing a hissy fit and going way overboard. When saner minds hear of this, it will get overturned. Like the moron who decided, "Oh yeah? Well, then, we will just pull the Tuskegee Airman from the curriculum at USAF Academy because we believe that is required by the removal of DEI instruction." It was a temper tantrum and took about a hour for that to get overturned.
The librarian who decided to take this step should be let go.
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I respectfully disagree. In Florida, the laws were deliberately vague so that when people afraid of being sued and/or losing their jobs took steps such as these, the governor had plausible deniability. The goal was accomplished without DeSantis having to take responsibility for the censorship. The same thing has happened with the EO.
It would be easy for a Trump lackey to draft another EO for him to sign clarifying the issue. I look forward to that happening.
Well, wait and see if this does not get overturned by the librarian's supervisors. I bet oit does. And that will not require another Executive Order from the President to clarify.
By pulling this stunt, the librarian who took this decision has shown his or her judgment is seriously suspect. If I were this librarian's supervisor, I'd call him or her into my office, shut the door and say, "If your judgment is that bad, do we really want you making decisions about what should and should not be included in the school's holdings?"
If it does get overturned in this case and the librarian removed, I'll suspect that the order quietly came from someone much higher up who didn't like the bad publicity. Why not simply clarify the order or issue an official statement so that there's no room for misinterpretation? There must be a reason.
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