Discussion of Offensive Design

[Scottbama555]

Three games into the Locksley era we have seen a great variety of formations and plays with everything from empty backfield to pistol to split backs. Tua at the trigger gets most of the credit but to my untrained eye our new OC is doing a great job as well. I’d be interested in analysis from those of you more able to break down what the offense is doing.

 

[AlexanderFan]

Three games into the Locksley era we have seen a great variety of formations and plays with everything from empty backfield to pistol to split backs. Tua at the trigger gets most of the credit but to my untrained eye our new OC is doing a great job as well. I’d be interested in analysis from those of you more able to break down what the offense is doing.

It's early in his tenure. I know there's a prior history with him, but there's really only been three games of fun with him at the helm. Hopefully he's grown as a coach with experience and this will improve his ability to keep the offense going, but I think we need to reserve judgement until around game eight or so when there's a considerable amount of film out there.

Right now I'm ecstatic about everything I've seen so far.


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[JustNeedMe81]

Three games into the Locksley era we have seen a great variety of formations and plays with everything from empty backfield to pistol to split backs. Tua at the trigger gets most of the credit but to my untrained eye our new OC is doing a great job as well. I’d be interested in analysis from those of you more able to break down what the offense is doing.

https://twitter.com/Ben_Litvin

Ben is a great person to follow on twitter. he breaks down offense and defense and give us an idea to what to look for next game.

 

[Snuffy Smith]

Is he being critical of the lack of check downs or recognizing that Tua was not allowed to check out of some of those runs at that point in the game?


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[GHoppr]

Jalen even looks better in Locksley's offense than he did in Daboll's. That could be coupled with the fact Bama has a separate QB coach as well.

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[78Alum]

I will be interested to see how we look in the A&M game.

 

[BamaFlum]

Jalen even looks better in Locksley's offense than he did in Daboll's. That could be coupled with the fact Bama has a separate QB coach as well.

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After watching the latest John Doe video, I had to reign in the comments about how much Jalen really did improve. He is still staring down his first read and doesn’t keep his eyes downfield on the scramble.


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[gtgilbert]

Is he being critical of the lack of check downs or recognizing that Tua was not allowed to check out of some of those runs at that point in the game?


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Good question - I got the impression that Tua wasn't being allowed to make that check. Could just be that Ole Miss was so bad at run D that locks told Tua not to worry about the check and run the ball anyway. It's a simple read (count the guys in the box) so we know Tua could execute that, especially with all the other pre and post snap reads he is making.

 

[gtgilbert]

After watching the latest John Doe video, I had to reign in the comments about how much Jalen really did improve. He is still staring down his first read and doesn’t keep his eyes downfield on the scramble.


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Agreed - and even then on the first read he's still not pulling the trigger sometimes (TE for a first down at least twice, and that was definitely the first read!) or pulling the trigger way to late. His mechanics and motion are improved so his accuracy is a bit better, but he's still just not getting the ball where it is designed to go.

 

[JBama_in_PCOLA]

I'm lowkey celebrating Locksley's success right now. Thing is, we really haven't gotten the run game going and we still have 237 yrd/gm. That's crazy.

 

[popems]

After he lost his son, Coach Saban told Locksley to take as much time as he needed and his response was being on the field and coaching was the only thing that kept him from breaking down. He may be devoting more time to film study and details than he was earlier in his career. I can only imagine what he must have went through and probably still does at times. The fact that he fights his demons by coaching only makes him better in my opinion.

 

[Tideflyer]

After he lost his son, Coach Saban told Locksley to take as much time as he needed and his response was being on the field and coaching was the only thing that kept him from breaking down. He may be devoting more time to film study and details than he was earlier in his career. I can only imagine what he must have went through and probably still does at times. The fact that he fights his demons by coaching only makes him better in my opinion.[/QUOTE]

Agreed. If you`re right, though, that`s a damned heavy price to pay to be better at your job. Whew!

 

[mlh]

With all the talent we have at RB, I love seeing two RBs in the backfield with Tua. I also love seeing how much we're throwing to the TE.

Tua does such a good job of finding the open receiver and spreading the ball around, opposing DCs must watch the film and think: "Oh crap! How are we going to stop this guy?"

 

[UAH]

With all the talent we have at RB, I love seeing two RBs in the backfield with Tua. I also love seeing how much we're throwing to the TE.

Tua does such a good job of finding the open receiver and spreading the ball around, opposing DCs must watch the film and think: "Oh crap! How are we going to stop this guy?"

I saw the two back set with a couple of different personnel packages in the backfield. I haven't seen a good analysis of this in terms of the overall offensive personnel package when Bama goes to the two back set. I looked back at the Litvin videos on Twitter but they were not detailed enough to make a good assessment of the total offensive package. From the two plays I reviewed it would appear that the TE is off the field and we are lining up with a slot receiver and two wide outs with the two RB set.

My assumption is that this is more of a vanilla set initially that will add more reads for Tua in the run game while continuing to stretch the boundaries for deep throws.

Does anyone have any additional background on the concept?

 

[dvldog]

Offensive design? We don't need no stinkin offensive design. OC to QB: Fling it.:biggrin2:

 

[Pilot172000]

Locksley has done a great job and his resume at Illinois is pretty solid, however I contribute the Jalen's growth to Enos. I believe that we are taking a different approach to the position than what he have in the past.

 

[gman4tide]

Offensive design? We don't need no stinkin offensive design. OC to QB: SEND it.:biggrin2:

fify :biggrin2:

 

[KrAzY3]

Jalen even looks better in Locksley's offense than he did in Daboll's. That could be coupled with the fact Bama has a separate QB coach as well.

This probably has a lot to do with the fact that Daboll never knew how to use Hurts in the first place (Locksley had to do the option stuff anyway, but Daboll was still calling the plays). Tua is the starter, but I don't think we'll ever see another Hurts vs. Georgia type situation, where it was clearly round hole square peg.

 

[92tide]

I saw the two back set with a couple of different personnel packages in the backfield. I haven't seen a good analysis of this in terms of the overall offensive personnel package when Bama goes to the two back set. I looked back at the Litvin videos on Twitter but they were not detailed enough to make a good assessment of the total offensive package. From the two plays I reviewed it would appear that the TE is off the field and we are lining up with a slot receiver and two wide outs with the two RB set.

My assumption is that this is more of a vanilla set initially that will add more reads for Tua in the run game while continuing to stretch the boundaries for deep throws.

Does anyone have any additional background on the concept?

i don't have any background, but we ran a vicious screen/swing pass to jacobs out of the backfield with a handoff faked to damien. i love seeing two backs on the field at once.

 

[gtgilbert]

This probably has a lot to do with the fact that Daboll never knew how to use Hurts in the first place (Locksley had to do the option stuff anyway, but Daboll was still calling the plays). Tua is the starter, but I don't think we'll ever see another Hurts vs. Georgia type situation, where it was clearly round hole square peg.

This just isn't true. Even with Locks calling the plays, Jalen is not pulling the trigger on FIRST READ open receivers. They were there for Jalen to throw to under Dabol and they are still there and for whatever reason he doesn't throw the ball. Dabol simplified the read packages as much as he possibly could, which is why only one receiver really got touches last year. Jalens QBR against Ole Miss last year was 185 and this year 187 and only playing when the game was basically over against a demoralized defense. He has improved some things with his mechanics which has improved his accuracy a little bit, but his ability to execute the reads required in the college game is still a developmental area for him.