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gtgilbert

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There is over 100 players on that team it’s an insult to them to say this is milroes team and we are going to play him to their detriment. Tell Ryan Williams and the receivers to go kick rocks this is Jalen’s team.
that's exactly why 4 of our top 6 receivers hit the portal anyway - they felt insulted that the staff knew it was an issue and did nothing about it.
 

Evil Crimson Dragon

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Something to consider is that let’s say he puts Ty in there and he does well vs a Michigan team that is on practically their 3rd string defense… what does that mean for Mack and the others who are seriously trying to get the job next year. A lot of our problems with getting stuck with Milroe probably stem from him getting PT in 2022 in major moments.
Open competition for QB next year and let the best man win........
 

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Sigh. It’s like Ty slept with someone’s sister. I just don’t get it. We have seen him make throws in real games. We have seen him evade pressure…IN REAL GAMES.
In 1983, Edwin Edwards, running for governor of Louisiana, said the only way he could lose the election was if he were caught in bed with either a dead girl or a live boy (neither happened, and he was proven right). At this point in our program and in the cultural milieu, the live boy would no longer matter, so unless the sister in question is either dead or his own, he should be in pole position entering the spring...
 

Evil Crimson Dragon

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If the issue for Grubb is the humidity, can we just get him a mobile office with hvac so that he's constantly air conditioned? Stick a loud mic on the outside of it so players can hear him calling out commands/instructions.

If Coach Bryant can have a tower, surely we can do something like this.
I think it's the different mindset of the Pacific NW to the South............People out west still have preconceived notions about the South and Southerners
 
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Padreruf

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I've been there..........it's scenic and all, but the mindset is different than it is in the South
I lived in the NW (Portland, Oregon) in the mid to late 60's -- in High School. I loved it and wish we had never moved back...although I love the South and have lived here ever since. I can understand Grubb not wanting to leave...although Seattle has changed tremendously over the years.
 

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I didn't say that.

Just saying that the playbook wouldn't have been any greater in size. Simpson absolutely would have been much better at running what little we did have availbale... :cool:
I didn’t mean to imply you said that. I was just speaking for myself. Milroe had the playbook reduced by 90% and he still couldn‘t get it done.
 
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gtgilbert

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Okay:

1. We did ran condensed offense. This has been said many times from people who is close to the program.
Alabama football's Kalen DeBoer: much of offense won't be installed

The offense he really want to run requires different skillset at QB, OL and WR.

2. The RBs had same issue that we had last year: they couldn't find a hole to run through. Part of that is on RBs and their RB coach. Gillespie is the holdover from last year.

3. On Sheridan: You're trying to force a square in a circle argument. How many games did he call game clean this season? He called run plays in passing situation. he called passing plays in run situation. He isn't very good at finding rhythm with playcalling.

4. The OL- Again you're finding very reason to blame Milroe.. You pretty much proved the point. OL play was real bad this year, but yet you choose to ingore that part and blame it on Milroe 100 percent. The Tackles at both side gave up the most sacks this year.

5. How could you tell Milroe to transfer when he held the team together after CNS retired? This was Milroe's team. Like I said before... Gotta take emotion out of this and see things differently. I didn't want to go back and forth with everyone... But it seems like everyone isn't understanding the point I made and just chose to find a way to pile it on Milroe but isn't seeing the big picture... I hate that for some of us. But anyway Like I said to everyone... Nobody dont have to agree with me, but I'm not going back and forth with Milroe. My position on the situation still stand and I'm looking at it from netural perspective. I shared my thoughts on this.. and it's whatever. Happy new year! See you guys soon!
No, you are NOT neutral. not at all and not even close.

100% agree we ran a very, very skinny offense. We had very little variability in what we could run this season. Some have said it's as low as 10% of the total possible playbook.

Yes, CKD said "There's going to be a lot of our offense that we never install this year, just because of the players that we have,"

that 'player gap' had ZERO to do with the TE, WR or RB groups. ZERO. It also had very, very little to do with the OL, and the part that did have to do with the OL was certain types of run blocking schemes they used at UW, but there were still plenty of run concepts we could use. Almost all of the limitations had to do with the QB. Just like CTR had to completely change what we wanted to do in 2023; NILroe couldn't execute a comprehensive offense. CKD only said 'players' because it's not like he can come out and say "well, we are really going to handcuff our offense and run something totally different because Jalen can't run anything close to the offense we are known for."

So, given we are very limited due to what the QB can do, what 'adjustments' should we expect Sheridan to make? The things he'd normally try to take advantage of what the defense was doing, were not things the QB could do. Almost NONE of the passing playbook was in reach because NILroe couldn't do it. he tried some of that against UM and what happened? WRs running WIDE open in the layers concepts the scheme is designed around and NILroe didn't make the throws - most of the time he never appeared to even see the receiver or even know where to look.

On the OL, even NILroe said that over half the sacks in the 23 season were on him, and he was being generous to himself. He does the exact opposite of what a QB should do with edge pressure, plus he holds onto the ball longer than any QB in college football because he doesn't know where to go with the ball. Could the OL be a bit better - sure thing. Would it be anywhere close to this bad if we had a QB who could call the right protections, climb the pocket with edge pressure or simply throw a quick hot pass over blitzing pressure? HECK NO. Those are all things we'd expect ANY QB to do with some degree of consistently. Remember, we had a much maligned center leave the program, go to a team still in the playoffs, be voted UNAMINOUS All-American and win the Remington award as the nations best center. I wonder what changed for him?

That's all without him giving away the fact that he's passing the ball so that the edge guys can pin it back without hesitation.

"Alabama's veteran signal-caller lined up differently before each play, offsetting his feet on pass plays and lining up with feet parallel to the line of scrimmage on running plays. Milroe's tendency eliminates the biggest advantage any offense has in football, surprise."

which he's been doing much of the season apparently, and the coaches have been all over him to fix it, but here we are after 20 something starts and 4 years in a college career and he can't fix a basic flaw of making sure his feet are right before every play.

Yes, it was NILroes team, or at least some of it was. He bought their loyalty with LANK NIL funds. It would have been a hard choice, but not doing it (going back to Saban actually) cost us two productive years, and resulted in the most fractured locker room we've had in ages. You really think that what we are seeing in the WR room reflects that this is really NILroes team? I'm sure you saw the open frustration from all the guys playing against UM. You really think that a lot of the skill position guys didn't want a change in a really big way (hint - some of them told the coaches a change needed to be made, and the way the coaches handled it is why some of them are leaving.) If the WRs who are in practice seeing how the two guys perform are calling for change, there could be something there right?

Fact is, the ONLY reason NILroe got the job in the first place, and then held onto it was NIL funding to the other players and that limited everything, so yes all the downstream effects are on NILroe. He manipulated things to set this stage and be in the spotlight, so it's all on him.
 

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I lived in the NW (Portland, Oregon) in the mid to late 60's -- in High School. I loved it and wish we had never moved back...although I love the South and have lived here ever since. I can understand Grubb not wanting to leave...although Seattle has changed tremendously over the years.
It and Portland are so much different that I know of people from there who said they would never go back
 

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That's ok. I have preconceived notions of them as well. His loss.
I don't like how he showed up and presented himself as the new OC and left like a thief in the night.

But

I understand not wanting to live in the South and especially if you weren't born here.

It doesn't even have to do with People or Places... it could be over something like the weather.

The heat and humidity here in the spring and summer is absolutely brutal and it's difficult to deal with even if you lived here your whole life.

I can 100% understand someone from the NW or MW or NE not liking it and not being able to deal with it.
 

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I don't like how he showed up and presented himself as the new OC and left like a thief in the night.

But

I understand not wanting to live in the South and especially if you weren't born here.

It doesn't even have to do with People or Places... it could be over something like the weather.

The heat and humidity here in the spring and summer is absolutely brutal and it's difficult to deal with even if you lived here your whole life.

I can 100% understand someone from the NW or MW or NE not liking it and not being able to deal with it.
Humidity aint for everyone
 

Evil Crimson Dragon

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Maybe not. This from a Keelon Russell interview:

Russell, during a check-in on Sunday, with On3 would have much to say about his conversations with the Tide staff.

“What jumps to me is the fact they want me to come and be the starting quarterback ASAP,” Russell told On3. “Like I talk to Coach DeBoer, while I was in his office, laid-back, chill I knew I was getting the honest truth out of him."
Sales pitch? I doubt they told him those exact words...........maybe he has the potential to be the starting QB if he wins. If he was actually told that then we have a bigger issue
 
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In 1983, Edwin Edwards, running for governor of Louisiana, said the only way he could lose the election was if he were caught in bed with either a dead girl or a live boy (neither happened, and he was proven right). At this point in our program and in the cultural milieu, the live boy would no longer matter, so unless the sister in question is either dead or his own, he should be in pole position entering the spring...
NGL…one of the more odd responses I’ve seen here…no offense.
 

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