First CFP Rankings- Bama #8
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I must have missed that game where Texas actually beat Oklahoma.
I also must have missed the game where Kansas beat Oklahoma State since the exact opposite occurred.
Missouri also lost at home to LSU by double digits, but I can spot them that one since LSU has two losses and Mizzou only has one.
UGA must win out until the SEC Championship Game and the we have to win out and beat'em. The mission still remains the same.
Sark said yesterday I believe,that he has the best win and it was on the road , also Ole Miss is good for us being at ten so we have a loss to a top 10 team and a win against a top 10 team. This is the lowest ranking since 2015 ( we were 6th) won national title, it's still out there for the taking
Well we are still in decent shape but don’t 100% control our destiny..
tOSU/Michigan winner gets a spot
FSU gets a spot unless they lose
Washington/Oregon winner gets a spot
UGA gets a spot unless they lose
Texas is 1st in line after that and hold the tiebreaker against us.
We need some combination of a FSU loss and Texas loss + us winning out and beating UGA to get in.
tOSU/Michigan winner gets a spot
FSU gets a spot unless they lose
Washington/Oregon winner gets a spot
UGA gets a spot unless they lose
Texas is 1st in line after that and hold the tiebreaker against us.
We need some combination of a FSU loss and Texas loss + us winning out and beating UGA to get in.
Apparently they're not going by head to head in cases where one team has a bad loss or bad scare in another game. In the case of Texas/Oklahoma OU almost lost to UCF at home and then did lose to Kansas who was playing a backup QB.
In the case of Oklahoma State/Kansas OSU had a bad loss at home to South Alabama while Kansas lost to Texas at Austin and Oklahoma State at Stillwater so no real shame there.
We don’t need Georgia to win out to make it. THE SEC has 5 of the top17, the committee still holds the conference in high regard. If Bama wins out , they will be in the playoffs. How could you keep out a team that would be 4-1 against the playoff top 20 and a conference champion. Personally, I hope ole Miss beats them.
If we beat UGA I think there's a chance we might jump an undefeated FSU team. The ACC is really weak this season.
I believe Texas needs a loss to someone besides Oklahoma cause of Oklahoma beats them again I believe they are in
No we still need help.
We get left out like this…
1) tOSU/Mich Winner
2) FSU Undefeated
3) Washington Undefeated or Oregon 12-1 winner
4) Texas 12-1
Even if we run out there and Beat UGA we can’t move up.
We gotta have either FSU to lose or Wash to lose and Oregon lose or Texas to lose to create another spot.
OU is still a threat too tbh because if they beat Texas again they will have 2 wins against the team that beat us.
It’s going to take more than us being 12-1
If we go 12-1, we will be in. The rest will fall into place. Frankly, us going 12-1 is the most difficult part of the equation.
But Georgia is about to shred Missouri. They done disrespected Kirby.
But Georgia is about to shred Missouri. They done disrespected Kirby.
I love the conversations about this but man there is a lot of football to be played. How many of these teams will start to cave to all of the pressure that has now been put on them?
It’s all going to work out. Just win.
I could handle this - if they were consistent.
In fact, an argument FOR Texas over Oklahoma CAN be made. I'll make it:
"The reason we have Texas over Oklahoma is because:
a) they have the most impressive road win of the season (double digits over Alabama)
b) they handily beat the team that inflicted the loss on OU
c) they basically won a game that came down to the last possession and saw Texas commit twice as many penalties and turn the ball over three times to none"
That is a REASONABLE argument, whether one agrees with the points or not.
Other good points to supplement the argument.
My problem?
They don't apply this consistently.
See the 2014 Baylor-TCU mess, where TCU was the higher rated team until the final poll - and THEN those idiots went with, "Baylor beat TCU head to head," as if that didn't happen earlier.
But again - how does "you lost to a different team and had a close game" REALLY translate into "we will treat your win in the polls as a LOSS?"
I know it's a sore spot with me, but I saw this with the 1993 poll, when Notre Dame beat Florida State and then lost on a last play FG at home the next week to Boston College. Amazingly, that loss to BC turned the win over FSU into a loss poll-wise...only the same logic didn't apply when unbeaten WVA beat BC.
This happens all the time, and that's my problem with it.
They can - and do -literally say anything.
They may as well say, "We ranked Ohio State over UGA because, well, we hate UGA."
I mean, that would be as logical as some of their excuses.
Its kinda funny that a few weeks ago I brought up this exact scenario but many laughed at the idea that a 1 loss SEC Champ would be left starving in the cold.
Road Forward
I seriously think a 1 loss Oregon and a 1 loss Big XII champ gets in over Bama still. Really we desperately need KSU to do us a solid this week and USC, Utah, and Oregon St to help us.
A lot of football left to play and we still need to win out but the math is getting far more complicated
I don't buy this.
1) For starters, Washington has already had close calls against Arizona (on the road, not so bad) and Arizona St (???), Penix appears to be hurting, and they still have USC, Utah, and one of the best Oregon State teams of recent years. They're not going undefeated!!!
Oregon still has USC and Oregon State plus a rematch against...somebody.
2) I still expect Texas to blow a game they should win. They always do. But we might need them to clear out Oklahoma in a rematch, too.
3) While I don't expect this one to happen..
There is still the possibility of round-robin elimination in the B1G. Ohio St eliminated Penn St who eliminates Michigan who eliminates Ohio State and we are left with whoever wins the title game.
In all honesty - with who we have left, including a (currently) highly rated LSU and having to face either Georgia or Missouri.......win and we're in.
I haven’t heard anyone really discuss FSU’s chances of getting in. Outside of LSU, who we will play and will have beaten if we expect to get in, how would they get in over us? Their schedule is super weak. I believe they are the wild card that gets left out assuming we win out, BIG 10, BIG 12 and PAC 12 all are in.
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