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And he & Sarah Evans are a mighty cute & HAPPY couple right now too! PLUS: He's one of those athletes who don't think they're better than everyone else & are so FOR REAL!!! Jay's the GREATEST!! :)
 
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Look, I'm not knocking Jay Barker. He was a solid, safe QB who came up with some big plays at necessary times.

However, he played with some of the best defenses in the country. When Barker was at Bama, Bama could beat you 17-7 and it was a BLOWOUT -- the game was never in question. If Bama needed a stop, you could REST ASSURED that the the defense would step up and get it.

You also have to realize that Barker was playing at the time that Spurrier was changing the face of SEC football, and fans wanted a more dynamic offense rather than the 4 yards and a cloud of dust offense that was prevalent under Stallings. In fact, one favorite student section cheer was "Mal Moore Sucks" because he was the OC. Unfair, but it happened week after week.

Also realize that Barker was a victim of the usual Alabama syndrome: the backup QB is always the best QB on the team. I believe Brian Burgdorf was Barker's backup, and, of course, Burgdorf had his following...who were always vocal when Barker made a slight misstep.

There have been many times when I've wished we had a Jay Barker on our team since he graduated. I also have to realize that Jay Barker wouldn't be nearly as successful now as he was then, simply because of the difference in the level of talent that would surround him. Everybody fondly remembers Sherman Williams, but you have to remember that SW was 2nd string behind Derrick Lassic. Those teams were stocked with NFL-caliber talent -- sometimes 2-deep.
 
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Salty Dog @ Work said:
Look, I'm not knocking Jay Barker. He was a solid, safe QB who came up with some big plays at necessary times.

However, he played with some of the best defenses in the country. When Barker was at Bama, Bama could beat you 17-7 and it was a BLOWOUT -- the game was never in question. If Bama needed a stop, you could REST ASSURED that the the defense would step up and get it.

You also have to realize that Barker was playing at the time that Spurrier was changing the face of SEC football, and fans wanted a more dynamic offense rather than the 4 yards and a cloud of dust offense that was prevalent under Stallings. In fact, one favorite student section cheer was "Mal Moore Sucks" because he was the OC. Unfair, but it happened week after week.

Also realize that Barker was a victim of the usual Alabama syndrome: the backup QB is always the best QB on the team. I believe Brian Burgdorf was Barker's backup, and, of course, Burgdorf had his following...who were always vocal when Barker made a slight misstep.

There have been many times when I've wished we had a Jay Barker on our team since he graduated. I also have to realize that Jay Barker wouldn't be nearly as successful now as he was then, simply because of the difference in the level of talent that would surround him. Everybody fondly remembers Sherman Williams, but you have to remember that SW was 2nd string behind Derrick Lassic. Those teams were stocked with NFL-caliber talent -- sometimes 2-deep.
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the same could be said about many, many, many successful college QBs. Seldom are they successful on their own merits.

Look at Jay Cutler. He's now the starting qb for the Denver Broncos but was hardly a "successful" college qb due to the team he played on.
 
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bamanut_aj said:
the same could be said about many, many, many successful college QBs. Seldom are they successful on their own merits.

Look at Jay Cutler. He's now the starting qb for the Denver Broncos but was hardly a "successful" college qb due to the team he played on.
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You are right. And Jay Barker's a good person by all accounts.

My post wasn't an attempt to degrade him, just to explain to a poster who admittedly didn't see him play much (if at all) why Jay was the target of so much criticism at UA.
 
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Salty Dog @ Work said:
You are right. And Jay Barker's a good person by all accounts.

My post wasn't an attempt to degrade him, just to explain to a poster who admittedly didn't see him play much (if at all) why Jay was the target of so much criticism at UA.
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I'm followin' ya.....just throwin' my .02 in, if it's even worth that. :)
 
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I think Spurrier had a lot to do with the way we all perceived Jay and Gene Stallings. We didn't go out and score 60pts a game and many people worried/thought that we were getting left behind. Looking back those were some good years.
 
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The difference about Jay was he was intelligent and had heart. He was a natural leader and the players respected him. Sherman Williams once said, "Jay is a different person in the huddle" Sherman stopped himself before going on. I'll bet he did do just that. Source "A Championship Season"

He did not have all the athletic tools but he was very smart and made the play makers do their jobs.

60th Annual Heisman Voting

1st Rashaan Salaam Colorado Jr. RB
2nd Ki-Jana Carter Penn State Jr. RB
3rd Steve McNair Alcorn State Sr. QB
4th Kerry Collins Penn State Sr. QB
5th Jay Barker Alabama Sr. QB
6th Warren Sapp Miami (Florida)
7th Eric Zeier Georgia Sr. QB
8th Lawrence Phillips Nebraska So. RB
9th Napoleon Kaufman Washington Sr. RB
10th Zach Wiegert Nebraska Sr. OT
 
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Irish: I sooooooo agree! Whereas there are some more recent qb's, etc who have a "public" image that differs pretty dramaticaly from the personal real one - well, Jay is not like that - he is genuine & what you see publically is what he is privately also.

It's also so good to see him so happy right now too - we're all hoping that things truly work out well for he & Sarah Evans - they're a great couple!! :)
 
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Salty Dog @ Work said:
Look, I'm not knocking Jay Barker. He was a solid, safe QB who came up with some big plays at necessary times.

However, he played with some of the best defenses in the country. When Barker was at Bama, Bama could beat you 17-7 and it was a BLOWOUT -- the game was never in question. If Bama needed a stop, you could REST ASSURED that the the defense would step up and get it.

You also have to realize that Barker was playing at the time that Spurrier was changing the face of SEC football, and fans wanted a more dynamic offense rather than the 4 yards and a cloud of dust offense that was prevalent under Stallings. In fact, one favorite student section cheer was "Mal Moore Sucks" because he was the OC. Unfair, but it happened week after week.

Also realize that Barker was a victim of the usual Alabama syndrome: the backup QB is always the best QB on the team. I believe Brian Burgdorf was Barker's backup, and, of course, Burgdorf had his following...who were always vocal when Barker made a slight misstep.

There have been many times when I've wished we had a Jay Barker on our team since he graduated. I also have to realize that Jay Barker wouldn't be nearly as successful now as he was then, simply because of the difference in the level of talent that would surround him. Everybody fondly remembers Sherman Williams, but you have to remember that SW was 2nd string behind Derrick Lassic. Those teams were stocked with NFL-caliber talent -- sometimes 2-deep.
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I see, I know you weren't knocking him i was just curious and im glad you cleared it up for me. I was only 6 or 7 during his senior year so i vaguely remember him. when researching old videos and and stories about him i just couldnt get over His record as a starter 35-2-1.
 
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