How we stack up against Bama (from hornfans.com)

Jack Bourbon

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All the talk that Texas shouldn't be in the title game is absurd.

They really think TCU, Boise, or Cincinnati earned it in their respective crap conferences with their crap schedules? TCU's best wins came against teams with decent prestige but that would be in the middle of the conference in the SEC or Big 12. Boise and Cinci, just give me a break already.
 

DallasRTR

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Ok, I have a question for HornFan.

When did they play Ohio State this year?? I've looked at their schedule, and they didn't even play Ohio State this year. The game he's referring to was what, 16 months ago?? Its not the same Texas team and its not the same 'Bama team.

Also, per Jeff Sagarin (sometimes not most popular guy) 'Bama had the 12th most difficult schedule this year. Texas had the 49th most difficult schedule this year.

'Bama played 3 top 10 teams and beat them all. Texas played none.
'Bama played 7 top 30 teasm and beat them all. Texas played 2 and beat them both.

Texas is a good team, and Colt McCoy is a good QB. They have a very good defense. But, they are one dimentional on offense. They can throw the ball very well, over 70% completion but they can't run the ball. The team that would scare me would be a team that can both run and throw the ball well, with a very good defense.
 

AlofBama

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Took me about three clicks to find Mandel's column from last week, which opened with this:

"No. 1 Alabama vs. No. 2 Texas -- the first-ever BCS Championship clash of 13-0 teams -- seems to warrant some grandiose, hyperbolic, "Game of the Century"-type nickname.

"How about the Anticlimax Bowl? Or The Granddaddy of All Mismatches? Perhaps you prefer 'Pointless in Pasadena?'"

(and later, from the same article)


"Yet one can already see this ending in exactly the same fashion as the past three editions: With the SEC champion celebrating atop a stage and the rest of the country lamenting that someone else didn't get a chance."


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That is very, very typical of what we Horn fans have been reading for the past 9 days. And that's the main college football analyst from Sports Illustrated. The ESPN writers are right there with them.​

Who cares about the media! They've been so messed up nobody pays any attention to them anymore. They just want to build it up so they can write all those "upset" articles IF an upset happens. They probably want an upset, so they can knock down the one on top...which is what they are all about.

We'll build you up and then take you down. We're the all mighty media! Too bad they are falling by the wayside. People get info in so many different ways now, and the media is an afterthought. So, blow them off. This game will be won on the fiield, plain and simple.
 

Crimson Cat

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To those who have said Texas is not in the same breath as Florida speed-wise, I beg to differ. Trust me, they are. In fact, one could say we have "too much" speed, because our LB's have a tendency to overrun plays. That would be absolutely disastrous against Ingram and Co. But I don't believe we're faster than Florida, either. I doubt any team is faster than Florida; it's enough that we're very much in their league on that score.


In the passing game, there is an area of the field that extends from tight end to tight end and about twenty yards downfield. Coach Davis will not willingly throw the ball there, except for very short crossing routes to Shipley, and slant passes. He can be very stubborn about this; just look at film from the Nebraska game. It wasn't until things got dire in the fourth quarter that Texas began throwing over the middle. When they did, they started moving the ball.

I don't think anyone's saying UT isn't as fast; Much of what you've seen on here regarding that is more of response to things coming off the UT boards saying Alabama hasn't faced speed like Texas has. I think Florida and LSU defenses both fall into that category, and possibly Tennessee as well, so BAMA has faced some speedy defenses. Bama fans are just saying we've faced comparable defenses.
If either team doesn't break some tendancies in this game and are too predictable offensively (and BAMA has been guilty of that as well earlier in the season), it will be defensive struggle and a low scoring game. This appears to be something BAMA has worked on recently so we'll see.
 

bayoutider

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I got my wish, Bama vs Texas for the NC. I don't care who thinks its a bad matchup or whether one of the teams is undeserving. Bama, Texas & Florida were in the top 3 most of the season and never dropped.

Now whoever said they never hear anything about Bama's close games with UT and Auburn you must have not have the same media coverage we have because we had that hammered against us relentlessly.
 

NYBamaFan

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I have read quite a few where this was implied. Most of the articles were focusing on the need for a playoff system but of the ones I remember they all pointed to who was statistically better or played a tougher SOS...
Oh, I have seen these, but they aren't digging at Texas as much as they are ripping the BCS. They use you as a tool, which I can see being painful, but they use Bama vs. Utah last year just as much...
 

Jessica4Bama

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To those who have said Texas is not in the same breath as Florida speed-wise, I beg to differ. Trust me, they are. In fact, one could say we have "too much" speed, because our LB's have a tendency to overrun plays. That would be absolutely disastrous against Ingram and Co. But I don't believe we're faster than Florida, either. I doubt any team is faster than Florida; it's enough that we're very much in their league on that score.

To the poster who would love to see man coverage on Julio Jones, I suspect you'll get your wish in Pasadena. With all respect, we saw how LSU did against Julio. Patrick Peterson helped keep him in check most of the game. As soon as Peterson went out with an injury, Julio caught the quick hitch, put a move on Peterson's sub, and took it to the house. Texas has a CB named Aaron Williams whom I believe to be as good or better than Peterson. If you look at his stats (pbu's, int's), you may not be impressed, but that's because opposing offenses pay him the ultimate compliment of simply not throwing his way.

If I sound overconfident, I'm not. Far from it. I think our defense will do fine, as long as the LB's remain disciplined, but I worry about our offense. Our offensive coordinator, Greg Davis, is capable of putting together some good game plans but he's also capable of lethal brain lock. Our running game is IMHO ill-conceived and not well coordinated with our passing game. Why it should be this way is a long story, but in a nutshell I see it as a hangover from the Vince Young days. Our RB's are much better than you probably think. If they get some seams to run through, you might be surprised. Whether that happens, of course, is problematic. Among other things, Greg Davis is often criticized for giving up on the running game way too quickly.

In the passing game, there is an area of the field that extends from tight end to tight end and about twenty yards downfield. Coach Davis will not willingly throw the ball there, except for very short crossing routes to Shipley, and slant passes. He can be very stubborn about this; just look at film from the Nebraska game. It wasn't until things got dire in the fourth quarter that Texas began throwing over the middle. When they did, they started moving the ball.

Over the years, I have seen games where the Texas defense played very well, but the offense kept going three-and-out while running the same futile plays over and over. Eventually the defense gives out. Against Alabama, that is my great concern. Bama is much too good to play the waiting game with. The Horns' offense needs to take on a sense of urgency in its first possessions. If Texas' offense opens with a quick hitch, followed by a zone run with Tre Newton carrying across the formation, followed by a slant pass to Shipley, get the champagne chilled, fellows. I will be scrambling for a bottle of Tito's vodka and praying for a miracle. If Texas breaks from its tendencies instead, I will be scrambling for the Tito's and settling in for what should be a great game.
Peterson didn't have an injury. He had cramps, but he did keep Julio in line when he was in there. That LSU defense wasn't well conditioned in that game. Numerous players were getting hurt or cramps or whatever. I hope Texas is well conditioned b/c Alabama can wear some teams out by sustaining drives.
 
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BAMA504

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All the talk that Texas shouldn't be in the title game is absurd.

They really think TCU, Boise, or Cincinnati earned it in their respective crap conferences with their crap schedules? TCU's best wins came against teams with decent prestige but that would be in the middle of the conference in the SEC or Big 12. Boise and Cinci, just give me a break already.
Amen to that...... both Texas and BAMA DESERVE the right to be exactly where we are. No spilt title no woulda, coulda or shoulda about it.

My question is why is it these teams like tcu, utah, boise etc.... Only want to play with the big boys when it is in a huge bowl game??? You want some of the SEC or Big12 then don't wait till the end of the year and catch an SEC or Big12 team when they are down from losing a hard fought championship game, come get you some in the REGULAR SEASON~!~ Then and only then will you EVER earn the right to play for the NC~!~
 

BAMA504

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Sorry, but Peterson didn't have an injury. He had cramps, but he did keep Julio in line when he was in there. That LSU defense wasn't well conditioned in that game. Numerous players were getting hurt or cramps or whatever. I hope Texas is well conditioned b/c Alabama can wear some teams out by sustaining drives.

Surprised peterson didn't have hand cramps since he was holding onto JJ all freaking game long...... They (lswho) can cry all they want it just makes the win that much sweeter~!~
 

JPT4Bama

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Let it all come down to this.. All things being equal, who has the advantage on the sideline?

This is where the game will be won or lost and of course this includes the first practice through the game itself.

I truly believe most neutral observers would pick Nick over Mack.

That being said, good luck to the Horns and here's to a great game.
 

Just Win

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The boys in Vegas, who handicap sports for a living - i might remind you - have this as a 3.5 to 5 point spread. What this means is - TWO VERY EVEN TEAMS. Quit trying to play the underdog card, Texas fans. Nobody is buying it. Do I think Texas is the best team we will have faced this year - no. Do I think Texas can beat us if we don't play smart and execute - absolutely.

Have we ever beaten Texas - no. I believe it was Rick Flair who once said, "If you want to BE the man, you've got to BEAT the man. Whooooo."

Roll Tide Roll.
 

DrollTide

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There was some interesting data in the original post from BamaJeff, stuff I did not know. But that Horns fan perhaps underestimates the quality and depth of athletes on the Alabama squad.

This NC is "correct" - far and away the best 2 undefeated teams, well-coached and full of athleticism, with different philosophies that both made 13-0 in difficult conferences. What a matchup!

Bama has struggled in two games this year - both times with opponents coming off an extra week of prep that Alabama did not have (and probably, Bama was looking past Auburn during that game). In the NC, both teams have an abundance of prep time and there will be no surprises on either side. I expect both teams to have a great plan, and be fully ready to execute. After the Florida beat-down, I'd give the nod to Alabama, but "previous results do not guarantee future outcomes" so I'll buy some beer and watch the game.

I just kinda wish McCoy had won the Heisman - the extra motivation to stop the stiff-arm guy helps them and not us!
 

texas1020

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I'm enjoying this. Thank you for having me.

In a previous post, I went on about Texas and my feelings about the team and the game. Tell me more about Alabama, what you think are their strengths and weaknesses. Someone mentioned that on offense they've been too predictable at times, but that has changed recently. How?

Julio Jones is a very good receiver, but to be candid I worry more about Maze and Peek. Maybe it's because I watched your LSU game. If memory serves, Maze had a great game. He could give the Horns a lot of trouble. Peek is a key, I believe. I'm no coach but I suspect Texas eventually will put eight in the box and play man on your WR's. That leaves our LB's on Peek. They're very fast, in addition to each being about 6'2", 235. They're sometimes undisciplined, however, or so it seems to me. Occasionally, I'll think, "What the hell is Keenan Robinson doing there?" But the kid makes plays. It should be interesting.

On another note, I live in Southlake. Greg McElroy is from here, of course, as are Tre Newton and Adam Ulatoski. So there's an even bigger buzz than usual for the game around here.
 

TexasLidig8r

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It is just very nice to be playing in a national championship game where the talking heads at ESPN aren't comparing Texas' opponent to Julius Caeser's 10th Legion crossing the Rubicon and marching on Rome to displace the dictator, Pompey.

Two great programs.
Two very good teams.

January won't get here soon enough.
 

mittman

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It is just very nice to be playing in a national championship game where the talking heads at ESPN aren't comparing Texas' opponent to Julius Caeser's 10th Legion crossing the Rubicon and marching on Rome to displace the dictator, Pompey.

Two great programs.
Two very good teams.

January won't get here soon enough.
:biggrin:
 

NYBamaFan

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...In a previous post, I went on about Texas and my feelings about the team and the game. Tell me more about Alabama, what you think are their strengths and weaknesses. Someone mentioned that on offense they've been too predictable at times, but that has changed recently. How?
We stopped running in short yardage situations and passing in long yardage situations. In short, we will either pass or run in any down or distance, now. 3rd and 8, we might run Ingram, or run a draw instead of passing. 3rd and 1, we might throw a bomb. This didn't happen until the o-line and QB play became more consistent.
Julio Jones is a very good receiver, but to be candid I worry more about Maze and Peek. Maybe it's because I watched your LSU game. If memory serves, Maze had a great game. He could give the Horns a lot of trouble. Peek is a key, I believe. I'm no coach but I suspect Texas eventually will put eight in the box and play man on your WR's. That leaves our LB's on Peek. They're very fast, in addition to each being about 6'2", 235. They're sometimes undisciplined, however, or so it seems to me. Occasionally, I'll think, "What the hell is Keenan Robinson doing there?" But the kid makes plays. It should be interesting.
The Jones TD catch and run against LSU was a key play. That said, Maze, Hanks and Peek have great hands and run great routes. They don't drop many...
 

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