I loved the game and how they played, but I do not like what I saw..........

[crimsonbleeder]

CNS had a couple of quiet, thoughtful conversations with Messrs Fulton and McCarron on how Alabama football players are to comport themselves. From the expression on his face, I don't think it was more than a whisper.

Don't forget AJ as well: As you recall, he was made aware of his need to stay steady and demure by CNS.

 

[bamabelle1991]

As for that Menzie penalty on the "fair catch," I saw something totally different. I saw a FLA player who wanted to run the ball and saw Menzie coming full speed and at the last possible moment, he gingerly raised his right hand. I understand that you will be penalized in that situation, but I don't think there was a chance in Hades that Menzie could stop his forward momentum. That crash was inevitable.

 

[Black Warrior]

I have to disagree with this. CNS saw a situation that could potentially blow up into something serious; something that could cost a player and the team receive a PF penalty. As HC, it was his responsibility to put a stop to it before it got out of hand. There was no time to delegate that responsibility down to an assistant. That showed not only the refs, but every player on the field that he doesn't put up with wild and uncontrolled behavior.

Agree totally. What's he supposed to do, wait until it's too late to run out and say something. I like someone who's ready to act on a split second notice and sees a potential problem and fixes it right now. CNS was in no danger from the refs.

 

[Rueben]

As for that Menzie penalty on the "fair catch," I saw something totally different. I saw a FLA player who wanted to run the ball and saw Menzie coming full speed and at the last possible moment, he gingerly raised his right hand. I understand that you will be penalized in that situation, but I don't think there was a chance in Hades that Menzie could stop his forward momentum. That crash was inevitable.

This. Not many people here have studied physics.

 

[Ldlane]

Don't forget AJ as well: As you recall, he was made aware of his need to stay steady and demure by CNS.

That would be AJ McCarron.

 

[RJ YellowHammer]

This team just has a mean type demeanor to it.

^^^ this

This Alabama team, particularly the defense, has an attitude. I like the mean streak. You just have to be careful not to cross the line.

If we weren't talking about this, some would be complaining about Alabama's lack of intensity. Which would the rest of you prefer?

 

[Florida Tom]

He looked like a good parent (coach) to me. If people don't like seeing kids get a "heavy hand" when they do something wrong, they may need to start watching more HGTV/Lifetime and less football. JAMHO (Just A Mom's Humble Opinion).

HGTV comment uncalled for IMHO

 

[bamabelle1991]

HGTV comment uncalled for IMHO

I didn't mean that ugly, I love me some HGTV, too. Just not on Saturday's.

 

[RJ YellowHammer]

I didn't mean that ugly, I love me some HGTV, too. Just not on Saturday's.

Sure you didn't...

 

[Bama323]

1. The kick catch interference with DQ menzie.
2. Jawing with the other team after the play. Trent, John Fulton, and Upshaw during the Arkansas
   Even though I loved the game and how we played. but the overall attitude with our players and some of the bonehead penalties, potential penalties, we NEED TO STOP. If we were not as good as we are the penalties would be worse for us. and to be honest they will kill us down the road. When someone gets to capitalize on stupid Boneheaded antics it will make us lose
   
   I hope you think the same way. I just think we need to act like we have been here before. However, Florida and Arkansas could have instigating it I am not naive but we need to just walk away from the goading they do to get us get a
   
   David Orr

1. 
   
   it may be time for you to switch to a more laid back sport, such as curling.

 

[Florida Tom]

I didn't mean that ugly, I love me some HGTV, too. Just not on Saturday's.

Then ask Mark Mangino foam Kansas, Jim Levit of USF, Mike Leach of Texas Tech. It does not take much for those who want to bring you down to do it. My message was clear in this climate you have to be careful especially on National TV.

I love Coach Saban (thought I said that as well) but if we are honest we all know he dives into deep waters sometimes. Just saying get some air, let your assistants do the cranking on Game Day, that's all.

 

[Crimson_Knight]

If yoiu go back to the Michigan St game, the violence that the D can administer was there. I did not think to much about it, I just thought it was B10 vs SEC. But these guys when healthy are very scary and bring something I have never seen from a Bama D before. I think it is a reflection of what Coach wants from his guys. This is old timey football really. It is a little different with an H back but really all Coach ever wanted to do which he said in "07, is beat the guy across from you and make him quit. I think he has found it.

Now with that said. I do not mind the hard hits and the energy. But no costly penalties. I know these are young guys and they put it out there every play. Do not hurt the team or make a spectacle of yourself.

Roll Tide Roll!!!!

 

[WMack4Bama]

I started not to say anything....but...

Although I am not qualified to say anything CNS needs to be a little more careful. He is getting real close to letting his emotions get the best of him. I would like to see him jack up the assistant coaches rather than run out on the field after a player but I'm hopeful he knows best.

I have just seen to many coaches (recently) get in a world of trouble over one single act.

Coach we love ya, please be careful.

We were all pretty jacked up on the game, but let's step back and look at something here. Less than 3 plays prior to the special teams snafu where Coach Saban ran out and accosted John Fulton, Dequan Menzie had just hurt his lower back jumping to break up a pass and had to be assisted off of the field. Let's just say, that was a serious injury. Surely Fulton's role would then increase exponentially. And for him to get caught up in some nonsense and possibly get kicked out of the game? I couldn't quite lip read what Coach Saban was saying to him, but from what I did catch, it looked as if he was saying repeatedly, "You have to get out of there." So that leads me to believe Coach Saban wasn't at the time wasn't really sure what DQ's status was since his injury had literally JUST happened. No need in losing 2 DBs in 2 plays.

 

[cooleddie]

As for that Menzie penalty on the "fair catch," I saw something totally different. I saw a FLA player who wanted to run the ball and saw Menzie coming full speed and at the last possible moment, he gingerly raised his right hand. I understand that you will be penalized in that situation, but I don't think there was a chance in Hades that Menzie could stop his forward momentum. That crash was inevitable.

Yep. I have no problem with that penalty because the Florida player at first made a slight wave of his hand at chest high. A legal fair catch signal is supposed to be above the head. Then, about the time he started to make the second (and legal) gesture above his head, Menzie was already in torpedo mode. I fault the Florida returner just as much for not signaling appropriately. I also agree that Menize should keep his head up, though.

 

[TIDE-HSV]

Important to remember that the PR has to be allowed to catch the ball. It doesn't matter if it's a fair catch or not. Menzie's foul had nothing to do with the FC signal...

 

[Dallas4Bama]

This whole discussion about CNS doing something wrong is ridiculous. Alabama fans are naturally focused on the fact that CNS stopped a player from getting into a fight, possibly getting ejected, etc... but the refs saw a coach stepping in to stop a situation from escalating. He stopped his players as well as the FL players from getting further out of control. What he did was if anything appreciated by the referees. CNS is a well respected coach, even by the oppossing players whether they will admit it or not. Some opposing players may make a cheap remark about CNS in the media leading up to a game, but when it comes down to it and they are face to face with CNS they respect him. So when a coach like that steps on the field and steps in everyone takes notice, even the opposing players.

I remember hearing a story from a former player about Coach Bryant stepping into a scuffle on the field that started right in front of him. Apparently he reached his big hand in and grabbed an Alabama player by the neck and yanked him out of the pile. As Coach yanked the player out of the way the opposing player he was tied up with came eye to eye with Coach Bryant. He mustered up a "sorry coach" as he turned and headed back across the field. After the game he was one of the first players across the field to speak with Coach Bryant.

 

[BeenwiththeBear]

it may be time for you to switch to a more laid back sport, such as curling.

LOL, It's pretty easy to pick out some of the more "youthful" posts. If anyone finds any serious flaws in the way Bama played or the coaches' coached in this game, then I'm sorry. (not aimed at you Bama323, thought that was funny).

 

[bamabelle1991]

Then ask Mark Mangino foam Kansas, Jim Levit of USF, Mike Leach of Texas Tech. It does not take much for those who want to bring you down to do it. My message was clear in this climate you have to be careful especially on National TV.

I love Coach Saban (thought I said that as well) but if we are honest we all know he dives into deep waters sometimes. Just saying get some air, let your assistants do the cranking on Game Day, that's all.

You mean the climate where some mommies and daddies are hovering like helicopters over their children and complain when someone looks at them wrong? Those kids won't EVER see a football field in college. The middle and high school coaches have already weeded them out.

I am not sure what Saban being a good coach and protecting his players while teaching them life/football lessons has to do with Leach, et. al., but okay. Leach was attacked by a disgruntled helicopter parent who happened to be a TV analyst. The others, I am not familiar with. I guess I am just not seeing how teaching discipline fits within this analogy.

 

[mittman]

I usually find myself on the opposite side of this, but not today. I did not see any examples of behavior that cause me concern at all.

Yes there were some cases where our players were jawing back and forth, but as others have stated, players were being leaders and helping them regain composure. I am very happy with what coach Saban did.

Menzie was a out of control on that play and his timing was horrible. He will learn from it.

There were far more examples of our players hitting 'em hard, picking 'em up, and hitting 'em hard again than otherwise. Which I love to see.

Our team plays aggressively, mean, tough and physical. They are also playing with class.

 

[Florida Tom]

You have lost your ever loving mind. Did you just compare us to Kansas, USF, and Texas Tech? KANSAS???

You have a great day & Roll Tide!