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Immigration and Customs Enforcement (I.C.E.) (part II)

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Tidewater said:
You would feel bad for him, but you do not because he was a Trump supporter?
That level of hatred is an eloquent argument for a national divorce. It is also probably not good for your soul, either.

As for me, it would appear this young man had a couple of decades to take care of this problem (being inside the United States illegally, even if brought here as a minor child), but did not take care of it and one day, it bit him in the backside. Probably should have taken care of that before ICE showed up on his doorstep.
And this guy's voting behavior has little to do with that.
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Well I do feel bad for him and his family and his very young child that he’s been separated from.

He lived in the US since he was 3 so all he ever remembers is growing up and living in Alabama.

The article said he didn’t find out he wasn’t an official American until his Teens.

He’s 26 now so he roughly had about 10-13 years to try and sort it out but didn’t for whatever reason.

Sounds like there was some kind of intermediary program for kids in the situation to pay’s fees to be apart of while working through gaining citizenship and he stopped paying the fees.

He made several other stupid mistakes getting arrested but even still…

He wasn’t some kind of violent criminal and it’s unnecessary to separate a family like that and ban him from re-try for Four Years.

It said at the end if one of his misdemeanors doesn’t get dropped he can’t come back for at least those 4 years.

Sounds like in general he was also trying to turn his life around and was becoming a valued member of his community.

I hope he can persevere and find a way to come back to the only home he knows.
 
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Tidewater said:
As an aside, I wonder what the marketing research said about the demand/enthusiasm for a film about Melania. I find it hard to believe that there was much evidence that it would be well-attended even in areas with high support for Trump.
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I have come to understand that Jeff Bezos funded the production and distribution of the movie in the midst of pulling in several $ billion in government contracts. I believe he comes out of this a few billion to the + side. The above may deserve further examination.
 
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UAH said:
I have come to understand that Jeff Bezos funded the production and distribution of the movie in the midst of pulling in several $ billion in government contracts. I believe he comes out of this a few billion to the + side. The above may deserve further examination.
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brazen and open corruption
 
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There was no market research. Trump wanted this made, and used other contracts to pressure people into funding it. He also used a director who is accused of sexual misconduct and was basically blacklisted by Hollywood. Trump has now pressured Paramount and their new Trump-loving owners to fund Ratner's upcoming Rush Hour 4. No one in Hollywood wanted Ratner or Rush Hour 4, not even Paramount, until Trump got involved.

Corruption is as corruption does.
 
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Huckleberry said:
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So interrupting houses of worship is a first amendment issue? I disagree and I'm pretty sure SCOTUS would, too. Let's turn this around, shall we? How do you think a lunkhead like Lemon would react if a bunch of stupid white supremacists pulled this stunt at a mosque or synagogue? Or hell, just Amway salesman walking in and trying to sell wares. Ya think he would be screaming at the top of his lungs? You know damn well he would.

Trust in the media continues to plummet and while this doofus no longer works for CNN, he is still one of the many faces of mainstream journalism. By all means, keep doing what you're doing, Don. Your industry can't die soon enough.
 
CrimsonJazz said:
So interrupting houses of worship is a first amendment issue? I disagree and I'm pretty sure SCOTUS would, too. Let's turn this around, shall we? How do you think a lunkhead like Lemon would react if a bunch of stupid white supremacists pulled this stunt at a mosque or synagogue? Or hell, just Amway salesman walking in and trying to sell wares. Ya think he would be screaming at the top of his lungs? You know damn well he would.

Trust in the media continues to plummet and while this doofus no longer works for CNN, he is still one of the many faces of mainstream journalism. By all means, keep doing what you're doing, Don. Your industry can't die soon enough.
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He was there as a journalist. That’s protected by the First Amendment. If they want to prosecute any of the actual participants, I’m ok with that.

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…A magistrate judge had rejected an earlier attempt by the Justice Department to bring charges against Lemon and other protesters — an extraordinary reproach of the case against Lemon, a former CNN host.

But Justice Department officials had vowed to continue seeking charges against Lemon and had been expected to bring the case to a grand jury this week.


After the magistrate rejected the charges against Lemon, Justice Department officials pressed Chief U.S. District Judge Patrick J. Schiltz to sign off on the charges against Lemon and one of his producers. When Schiltz did not do so, officials unsuccessfully sought an order from a court of appeals.



In a letter to the appeals court, Schiltz wrote: “There is no evidence that those two engaged in any criminal behavior or conspired to do so.”
 
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Huckleberry said:
He was there as a journalist. That’s protected by the First Amendment. If they want to prosecute any of the actual participants, I’m ok with that.
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Again, that is to be decided by the courts. There are limitations to the first amendment; it will be interesting to see how they interpret this in light of the FACE act. Personally, I would prefer that Lemon be released as long as kicking his ass is seen strictly as an act of personal expression. I could get behind that. :cool:
 
Huckleberry said:
He was there as a journalist. That’s protected by the First Amendment. If they want to prosecute any of the actual participants, I’m ok with that.
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And what would your answer be if another "journalist", such as Nick Shirley, showed up at an abortion clinic, let himself in and shouted and chanted "Murderers!!!!" at the top of his lungs. Do you think he would be arrested?
 
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CrimsonNagus said:
This is how real LEOs behave. Drunk DHS agent finds out he is not above the law.


Drunk, with his kids in the car. These are the dumb people DHS is hiring.

He asks the cop if he is Haitian. He's drunk and concerned about the cop's nationality. Again, these are the idiots DHS is hiring.

He's concerned about his kids in the car while refusing to get in the police car. I bet he shows no concern for kids when he's at work and dragging their parents to unmarked cars.

How many times does he refuse to comply with the officer's commands? Interesting how these cops chose not to shoot him in the back for resisting. According to MAGA folks, resisting justifies deadly force these days, right?

Hopefully, this idiot gets fired.
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He deserves whatever he gets. But I’m surprised you’re not defending him in the same way you defended Pretti. Why the disconnect?
 
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Huckleberry said:
Would he be there as a journalist or an anti-abortion nut?
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LOL. Was Don Lemon at the church as a journalist or a rabid anti-ice nut? You don't really need to answer because I already know the reason: a desperate attempt to revive his flailing career.
 
Huckleberry said:
Maybe so, but the evidence seems to indicate he was there as a journalist - struggling or not.
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Then in this case Nick Shirley would have to be labeled a journalist as well. Why can't he protest inside an abortion clinic? He can't because an abortion clinic is private property and he would be trespassing. Churches are private property as well. When you are asked to leave you have to leave.
 
75thru79 said:
Then in this case Nick Shirley would have to be labeled a journalist as well. Why can't he protest inside an abortion clinic? He can't because an abortion clinic is private property and he would be trespassing. Churches are private property as well. When you are asked to leave you have to leave.
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Again, lets just make ass-kicking a first-amendment protected act of self-expression and a lot of these problems will vanish overnight.
 
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Then in this case Nick Shirley would have to be labeled a journalist as well. Why can't he protest inside an abortion clinic? He can't because an abortion clinic is private property and he would be trespassing. Churches are private property as well. When you are asked to leave you have to leave.
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If Lemon was there as a protester, then he probably broke the law. The same would be true for a clown like Nick Shirley.
 
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