Question: Is Texas recruiting not as good as it could be?

[WishIwasInBama]

OU has six, should have 5. Texas has 3, should have 4. 5-4 isn't bad. We can't help that head to head didn't matter last year.

Like the OP said, that whole discussion leads down a rat hole. I'd prefer not to go there.

Bottom line, I wouldn't trade the success Texas has had under Mack with any other program. Beat Bama and it's not really close. High stakes on Jan 7, of course.

So if OU should have 5 and Texas should have 4 then how many should Texas Tech have?

 

[gmart74]

Mack Brown's reputation at UNC was that he was a great recruiter but not a very good game day coach. I haven't seen anything at UT that would lead me to believe he has changed. Generally, good recruiters that don't excel on gameday are heavily reliant on having good coordinators. I haven't studied up on UT enough to know but I would be very curious as to who his coordinators were when he won the nat champ, how long those coordinators were with him and if they have left since then.

 

[TIDE-HSV]

Mack Brown's reputation at UNC was that he was a great recruiter but not a very good game day coach. I haven't seen anything at UT that would lead me to believe he has changed. Generally, good recruiters that don't excel on gameday are heavily reliant on having good coordinators. I haven't studied up on UT enough to know but I would be very curious as to who his coordinators were when he won the nat champ, how long those coordinators were with him and if they have left since then.

Well, he has Muschamp, and that's hard to beat. For OC, they have Davis, and, from reading their boards, they don't really seem that happy with him.

 

[Paul Wesley]

Mack Brown's reputation at UNC was that he was a great recruiter but not a very good game day coach. I haven't seen anything at UT that would lead me to believe he has changed. Generally, good recruiters that don't excel on gameday are heavily reliant on having good coordinators. I haven't studied up on UT enough to know but I would be very curious as to who his coordinators were when he won the nat champ, how long those coordinators were with him and if they have left since then.

DC of the 2005 team was Chizik. A good coach, but nobody in Austin would take him over Muschamp. The talent Chizik had on that team was pretty solid, including an entire defensive backfield who are NFL starters.

OC Greg Davis has been at UT as long as Brown. They'll almost certainly go out together. And yes, UT fans have mixed feelings for him. The biggest complaint is that our running game is predictable, and at times, we lack the play calling and/or execution to make a team pay for blitzing.

 

[Ole Man Dan]

I don't think you can fault Texas recruiting.
You can't be #1 every year.
The BCS National Champions have cleaned up in recruiting, to the detriment of everyone else. (Just another reason we need to win the Championship) :BigA:

 

[CapstoneGrad06]

I don't think you can fault Texas recruiting.
You can't be #1 every year.
The BCS National Champions have cleaned up in recruiting, to the detriment of everyone else. (Just another reason we need to win the Championship) :BigA:

I don't expect Texas to be Southern Cal, and dominate the Big XII every year (considering they have OU in their own division), but it still amazes me that Mack Brown only has two Big XII titles in eleven seasons, considering the jobbing in 2008 or not. Texas has an unreal amount of talent to cherry pick from, and has a much easier job of recruiting than Alabama, Georgia, LSU, or even Florida.

 

[TiderInTally]

Texas has an unreal amount of talent to cherry pick from, and has a much easier job of recruiting than Alabama, Georgia, LSU, or even Florida.

1. Coaching (Offense) - Two words: bucket step.

2. Coaching (Offense) - Three more words: one-trick pony. All roads lead to Colt McCoy. McCoy is a fine college player. His passing stats are just gaudy, and he is a very credible running threat. He is capable of beating Alabama (or anyone else) almost single-handed, a-la Tim Tebow. But successful offenses are (usually) multi-dimensional. Texas' leading rusher gained 513 yards this past season, on 102 attempts, for six TD's. Alabama's second leading rusher did better than that. As a result, Texas cannot control the clock on offense, and its (very good) defense spends almost 2.5 more minutes per game on the field than Alabama's.

3. Coaching (Offense) - One word: turnovers. Taking care of the ball is all about fundamentals (read: coaching), and Texas does not take care of the ball nearly as well as Alabama. Comparing INT's lost isn't fair, because Texas threw the ball over 150 more times than Alabama did this season. But quite interestingly, each team fumbled the ball almost exactly the same number of times (15 vs. 16), but Alabama only lost 6 of its 15, whereas Texas lost 11 of its 16.

 

[mojo17]

This board sounds just like Sooner rewind. Texas should win the NC every year, and Mack can't coach. I guess wins over Ohio State, Michigan, USC, LSU, and their great coaches was all luck.

 

[twofbyc]

This board sounds just like Sooner rewind. Texas should win the NC every year, and Mack can't coach. I guess wins over Ohio State, Michigan, USC, LSU, and their great coaches was all luck.

With a state of 25 million, being the premier athletic college in the state...yeah, I agree...

 

[gmart74]

This board sounds just like Sooner rewind. Texas should win the NC every year, and Mack can't coach. I guess wins over Ohio State, Michigan, USC, LSU, and their great coaches was all luck.

Michigan???..... great....... which decade are we talking about here?

 

[Paul Wesley]

Again, it doesn't matter if Texas has 25 million or 250 million people. Mack can take 20-25 kids a year. That's it.

The more NFL-caliber players that Texas high schools turn out, the more of them that are going to be lining up for OU, Nebraska, Mizzou, LSU, Texas Tech, Texas A&M, etc.

 

[TIDE-HSV]

This board sounds just like Sooner rewind. Texas should win the NC every year, and Mack can't coach. I guess wins over Ohio State, Michigan, USC, LSU, and their great coaches was all luck.

Look, mojo, this is a Bama board, so you need to expect it. If you can't deal with it, leave now...

 

[TIDE-HSV]

Again, it doesn't matter if Texas has 25 million or 250 million people. Mack can take 20-25 kids a year. That's it.

The more NFL-caliber players that Texas high schools turn out, the more of them that are going to be lining up for OU, Nebraska, Mizzou, LSU, Texas Tech, Texas A&M, etc.

I hear you. Either you or another UT poster made the same observation. In UT's case, I think it really does come down more to evaluation and development...

 

[texas1020]

Mack Brown's reputation at UNC was that he was a great recruiter but not a very good game day coach.

When Mack Brown left UNC, that's certainly what Tar Heel fans said about him.
They said Carl Torbush was the real brains of the team and good riddance to Mack. Poor old Carl took Mack's talent and compiled a 17-18 record over three years. He got fired and his replacement, John Bunting, went 27-45. They've got Butch Davis now, and even he is finding it slow going in righting the ship, despite the fact that the level of competition in the ACC is down these days. One wonders whether there haven't been times when Heel fans wished they had good old dummy Mack Brown back.

 

[cuda.1973]

@Paul Wesley:

Wasn't referring to you, just the other folks from your parts that are posting here. I don't have anything against UT. Heck, one of my best suppliers is from there. And he gives me a better discount than he does the other contractors. So, I have no problem with UT.

Just the loud-mouthed buffoons.........like the ones I worked with, before I went out on my own. It was hard to decide who was worse: The Whiny Orange or the Zero U crowd at work. Neither of them knew when to shut up.

But I will say this:

When I moved here from Alabama, the first thing I heard from everyone who DIDN'T go to UT was "You know he was out-of-bounds. You guys really won that game.", in reference to one of our ill-fated Cotton Bowl excursions. I didn't expect to find so much animosity to the 800 pound gorilla of the state, but I was wrong. (It also took me a while to figure out why the Aggies are so maligned. Then I worked with one................)

So, I am looking forward to a great game. And I know, win or lose "Ed" won't lower my discount rate!

Nor will I have to listen to how great UT is for 3 weeks at work. 'Cuz there ain't any Whiny Orange here to whine.

 

[bamaga]

Recruiting is not an exact science. Javy arenas is a great example. Plus, It takes luck. Breaks. and mental toughness to play at a high level every week and win most of your games. Even with the best athletes.
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