are you the one who kept saying nooI'm one of the Knights of Ni, so I have my own vocabulary issues.
Judge orders Verizon to hand over all cell phone call data to NSA
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Sadly, yes. But, I'm the product of the public school system.are you the one who kept saying noo
so you got suspended when you said itSadly, yes. But, I'm the product of the public school system.
It's laughable that some on here say Obama couldn't handle 9/11. People get butt hurt about Obama's mistakes pre-Benghazi that cost a few U.S. lives overseas; however, Bush's mistakes pre 9/11 cost 2000 thousand plus lives on our home soil. Also the way he handled post 9/11 is pretty lol.
Uhh that started loooooong before Shrub had a chance to really screw it up but he, like them, didn't take the threat as seriously as he should have. A lot still don't.
1. That's EXACTLY the sort of fearful mindset the government wants you to have. It's what allowed the Patriot Act to pass, it's what allowed FISA to expand, and it's what is allowing this nonsense.
2. I suspect that they are trying to create a cellphone database, so that when they get a specific suspect, they can enter the number and get a history. Sounds nice on paper, but for me it's crossing a line.
3. I'm not a lawyer, nor have a stayed in a Holiday Inn Express recently, but the government's claim that since they are only going after the metadata, rather than the conversations themselves, seems to be splitting hairs. It would be easy to argue that my privacy extends to who I call as well as what I say to them.
4. It's a moot point, though, because the only way this gets struck down is if the SC rules that there is a constitutional right to privacy, and there's no way in hell this court is going go there.
agreed, but i would also think that congress could repeal the patriot act and AUMF and go a long way to fixing the problem, or at least making it illegal. technically, what is going on is legal (or at least at first glance seems so). sadly, i think it is one of those bells that can't be unrung. aside from the standard posturing by the back-benchers, most of what i've heard from the congress critters is that they aren't keen on getting rid of this any time soon. i'm also guessing that the telecoms are licking their chops at the marketing opportunities available from this type of data-mining.
Whoa there, dude. You're saying that Bush caused 9/11, even though he'd only been in office less than 8 months? Please explain.
CIA to Bush. Bin laden planning attack to America. CIA warns Bush that terrorist are planning to hijack planes and use them as weapons against U.S. Repeatedly Bush ignores warnings. Allowing members of the Bin Laden family to leave without questioning
Let us not forget his flyby over New Orleans so he did not have to leave his vacation early. I could go on and on he dropped the ball.
Now ask yourself if Obama did all this it what would you say? Worst president ever etc...?
My name is Joe, posting for CrimsonForever1. That is why we use throwaways for business. Government can`t control what I do and never will be able to, unless there is another civil war. I have a feeling that the citizens of the U.S. will win that battle, easily. Anarchy will come. Corrupt governments around the world are being overthrown every so often, or often enough. My question is how in the world could fascists take over a whole nation? Even our armed forces will not allow that to happen in a permanent scenario. Citizens who demanded rights from a feudal Lord is proof of that back in the day.
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This is your typical bullcrap and as usual you have no idea what you are talking about. Bush handled NO the way he should have. I was in Disney last weekend and talked to an EMT from Tuscaloosa and he said when Obama came to visit all rescue efforts had to stop and the area cleared. Bush didn't want to stop any efforts in NO, he may not have handled a lot of situations correctly but he handled that one the right way. If he had stopped in NO you would have probably said he cost some people their lives by stopping rescue efforts.
As for 9/11, that is more on Clinton than anybody. We had attacks in one way or another in seven of his eight years and the best he could do was blow up an empty building. Sorry but he gets most of the blame for that and cutting a lot of our intelligence departments.
Let's say he did as you suggest. I submit those on your side would still criticize him, but instead the criticism would be for slowing relief efforts due to the large security detail that must secure areas where the president travels, all for a photo op.
This was how the media and the left operated during the Bush years. Wait for Bush to do something. If he does 'A', pound him for not doing 'B' and vice versa. It's very easy to sit back, wait, and criticize.
Ex 1: What was he thinking in that classroom when he was told the 2nd tower was hit? He should've stormed out of there with mighty purpose, ready to rain hell!
Ex 2: They knew Al Qaeda planned on using planes as weapons. They should've grounded all the planes until Al Qaeda gave up and went home.
Ex 3: They let Bin Laden's family leave. They should have detained them. They were guilty by association.
My typically bull crap you were the one that took this convo down this road. Second it seems okay for you to blame 9/11 on Clinton but O God do not let Obama blame Bush. So are you saying Bushed screwed up by visiting the WTC site? It seems that would have stopped workers as well. Plus what about the great body armor Bush gave troops while in Iraq? Nice to know it wouldn't stop a bullet.
I'm saying people on this board criticize Obama in this very way. Come on don't you think they should at least question his family? Might be way Bush could not get the guy.
Didn't bush cut FBI counter terrorism funds by 2/3 after 9/11. He was really out to win the war on "terror".
