Kyle Rittenhouse a hero? (update - not guilty on all charges)

[81usaf92]

If the jury deadlocks on one charge, the prosecution would have the chance to retry the case only for that charge. The rest of the verdicts would stand as decided.

Also, the judge still hasn't ruled on the defense's motion to declare a mistrial based on prosecutorial misconduct:

Kyle Rittenhouse defense team seeks mistrial, claiming prosecutorial misconduct

KENOSHA, Wis. — As Kyle Rittenhouse’s jury officially began its deliberations Tuesday, a piece of unfinished business still hung over the case. The defense filed a motion ahead of Monday’s closing arguments asking for a mistrial based on prosecutorial misconduct. The request will be moot if the...

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I doubt a mistrial is going to happen with a case like this. The public is already in a frenzy over how the judge has handled this trial. Awarding a mistrial via prosecutorial misconduct would probably start riots.

 

[crimsonaudio]

I doubt a mistrial is going to happen with a case like this. The public is already in a frenzy over how the judge has handled this trial. Awarding a mistrial via prosecutorial misconduct would probably start riots.

I'm not sure the judge cares (or should care) about how the public will react if he feels it's a needed move.

Also:

Kyle Rittenhouse defense accuses prosecutors of withholding key video

Lawyers for the 18-year-old Kenosha gunman already called for a mistrial during the hearing.

nypost.com

 

[81usaf92]

I'm not sure the judge cares (or should care) about how the public will react if he feels it's a needed move.

Also:

Kyle Rittenhouse defense accuses prosecutors of withholding key video

Lawyers for the 18-year-old Kenosha gunman already called for a mistrial during the hearing.

nypost.com

if the prosecution is withholding exculpatory evidence then sure, but let’s also accept that defense has been Hollywooding the hell out of this case and the judge has mostly allowed them to get away with it. More to the point… I seriously doubt a mistrial at this point

 

[B1GTide]

I'm not sure the judge cares (or should care) about how the public will react if he feels it's a needed move.

Also:

Kyle Rittenhouse defense accuses prosecutors of withholding key video

Lawyers for the 18-year-old Kenosha gunman already called for a mistrial during the hearing.

nypost.com

The judge is a piece of excrement

 

[Bamaro]

if the prosecution is withholding exculpatory evidence then sure, but let’s also accept that defense has been Hollywooding the hell out of this case and the judge has mostly allowed them to get away with it. More to the point… I seriously doubt a mistrial at this point

I think I get your point but a hung jury is a mistrial also.

 

[TIDE-HSV]

I think I get your point but a hung jury is a mistrial also.

Only in the sense that they both require a new trial (if the prosecutor so decides). However, the prosecutor's decision is definitely influenced by which it is. Most mistrials (declared by the judge) would likely be retried, if the error found by the judge could be corrected. OTOH, if, after a hung jury, investigation shows one juror holding out for conviction and 11 wanting to convict, a retrial would be very unlikely. So, there is a significant difference...

 

[Bazza]

Other than the National Guard standing by.....what keeps peaceful protests from turning into riots?

And I know no one wants to see looting, God forbid. In addition to damage of private property it's just bad optics for those wishing just to protest.

I don't really feel using armed forces is the answer. In fact, I despise that people feel it's even necessary.

So much media coverage on all this other stuff - why not more community leaders and elected representatives on TV every hour strongly condemning such behaviour. Make that THE big story.

 

[92tide]

maybe some of the concern should be directed at those who are putting this human filth on a pedestal as some sort of hero

St. Louis couple who pointed guns at BLM protesters attends Kyle Rittenhouse trial

The St. Louis couple who made headlines for pulling guns on Black Lives Matter protesters last year — and spoke at the GOP convention two months later — attended Kyle Rittenhouse’…

www.nydailynews.com

 

[TIDE-HSV]

Other than the National Guard standing by.....what keeps peaceful protests from turning into riots?

And I know no one wants to see looting, God forbid. In addition to damage of private property it's just bad optics for those wishing just to protest.

I don't really feel using armed forces is the answer. In fact, I despise that people feel it's even necessary.

So much media coverage on all this other stuff - why not more community leaders and elected representatives on TV every hour strongly condemning such behaviour. Make that THE big story.

True, and that "elected representative" needed to be the president...

 

[Bazza]

True, and that "elected representative" needed to be the president...

Has our current president commented on the possibility of riots after this trial? I haven't heard anything.

 

[Bazza]

maybe some of the concern should be directed at those who are putting this human filth on a pedestal as some sort of hero

TOO MANY REDNECK crackers with guns!!!

 

[JDCrimson]

They just want to see antifa rioting in the streets so they can say see there are bad people on both sides.

 

[crimsonaudio]

They just want to see antifa rioting in the streets so they can say see there are bad people on both sides.

I mean, I don't care what the public wants, I just want justice served. Whatever the jury decides, so be it.

If people riot over this, they are bad people. Burning down business and destroying private property isn't the right answer and is only likely to bring more cases like this about.

 

[JDCrimson]

Agree but the wing nut conservatives don't think that way...

I mean, I don't care what the public wants, I just want justice served. Whatever the jury decides, so be it.

If people riot over this, they are bad people. Burning down business and destroying private property isn't the right answer and is only likely to bring more cases like this about.

 

[Bazza]

I mean, I don't care what the public wants, I just want justice served. Whatever the jury decides, so be it.

If people riot over this, they are bad people. Burning down business and destroying private property isn't the right answer and is only likely to bring more cases like this about.

Agree. Now if the justice department and other law enforcement goes after the law breakers with the same intensity as they have the capitol rioters then at least there would be consequences.

Are there two sets of rules when it comes to breaking the law?

Put another way - other than Rittenhouse - were there other arrests in the Kenosha riots? Pretty sure there was at least property damage and assaults.

 

[Bazza]

They just want to see antifa rioting in the streets so they can say see there are bad people on both sides.

The reality is there are bad people on "both sides". I think we've seen that.

 

[TIDE-HSV]

Has our current president commented on the possibility of riots after this trial? I haven't heard anything.

No, and I'd be surprised...

 

[TIDE-HSV]

The reality is there are bad people on "both sides". I think we've seen that.

No group of people has ever tried to take down our government, so there's no comparison to be made...

 

[B1GTide]

KR lied on the stand. The video proves it. He pointed the assault rifle at the protesters in the beginning. He caused this all to happen. All of it. He is 100% responsible for those deaths.

Rittenhouse lawyers ask judge to declare mistrial over video

The defence says video the prosecution alleges shows Rittenhouse raising his gun should not be allowed.

www.aljazeera.com

 

[AUDub]

KR lied on the stand. The video proves it. He pointed the assault rifle at the protesters in the beginning. He caused this all to happen. All of it. He is 100% responsible for those deaths.

Rittenhouse lawyers ask judge to declare mistrial over video

The defence says video the prosecution alleges shows Rittenhouse raising his gun should not be allowed.

www.aljazeera.com

The video is an interesting microcosm of what a Rorschach test this trial has been.