Kyle Rittenhouse a hero? (update - not guilty on all charges)

[tattooguy21]

Such a stir of echoes

 

[TIDE-HSV]

KR lied on the stand. The video proves it. He pointed the assault rifle at the protesters in the beginning. He caused this all to happen. All of it. He is 100% responsible for those deaths.

Rittenhouse lawyers ask judge to declare mistrial over video

The defence says video the prosecution alleges shows Rittenhouse raising his gun should not be allowed.

www.aljazeera.com

That, of course, is not the way criminal offenses work...

 

[AlexanderFan]

That, of course, is not the way criminal offenses work...

He’d be real disappointed in the Arbery trial if it was.

 

[AUDub]

Infuriating

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1461379089542135812

I'm all for throwing the book at anyone that tries to get close to, dox or otherwise intimidate the jury.

 

[AUDub]

Judge has banned MSNBC from the courthouse.

 

[AUDub]

Surely NBC would not be that irresponsible

 

[AUDub]

Surely NBC would not be that irresponsible

Welp, they fessed up. Turns out they are.

 

[Go Bama]

Judge in Kyle Rittenhouse trial bars MSNBC from courtroom after man working for the network follows jury bus

Judge Bruce Schroeder said a man claiming he worked for MSNBC had followed the bus transporting jurors in the Kyle Rittenhouse trial on Wednesday.

www.insider.com

 

[AlexanderFan]

Welp, they fessed up. Turns out they are.

We’ve helped create this monster with this thirst for 24/7 information on everything.

Any potential long term legal ramifications? Banned from the courthouse for just this case? Is this a normal occurrence?

 

[NationalTitles18]

MSNBC banned from courthouse after freelance producer was stopped by police while following jury bus

The jury in the trial of Kyle Rittenhouse will continue deliberations today. Follow here for live updates.

www.cnn.com

An NBC News spokesperson told CNN the producer was a freelancer who never intended to contact jurors. The network is cooperating with authorities, the spokesperson said.

"Last night, a freelancer received a traffic citation. While the traffic violation took place near the jury van, the freelancer never contacted or intended to contact the jurors during deliberations, and never photographed or intended to photograph them," NBC News said in a statement obtained by CNN's Brian Stelter. "We regret the incident and will fully cooperate with the authorities on any investigation."

TIFWIW.

 

[AlexanderFan]

MSNBC banned from courthouse after freelance producer was stopped by police while following jury bus

The jury in the trial of Kyle Rittenhouse will continue deliberations today. Follow here for live updates.

www.cnn.com

An NBC News spokesperson told CNN the producer was a freelancer who never intended to contact jurors. The network is cooperating with authorities, the spokesperson said.

"Last night, a freelancer received a traffic citation. While the traffic violation took place near the jury van, the freelancer never contacted or intended to contact the jurors during deliberations, and never photographed or intended to photograph them," NBC News said in a statement obtained by CNN's Brian Stelter. "We regret the incident and will fully cooperate with the authorities on any investigation."

TIFWIW.

Kind of the reason you get freelancers though, right? Plausible deniability?

Well, until shown otherwise they say it wasn’t intentional, so let’s go with that.

 

[Bazza]

No group of people has ever tried to take down our government, so there's no comparison to be made...

You are absolutely right that there is no comparison between the two.

But there were many who were negatively affected in Kenosha by the riots last year. I hope they are afforded the same degree of justice as we are providing in the capital riots.

That was the only point I was trying to make.

 

[AUDub]

MSNBC banned from courthouse after freelance producer was stopped by police while following jury bus

The jury in the trial of Kyle Rittenhouse will continue deliberations today. Follow here for live updates.

www.cnn.com

An NBC News spokesperson told CNN the producer was a freelancer who never intended to contact jurors. The network is cooperating with authorities, the spokesperson said.

"Last night, a freelancer received a traffic citation. While the traffic violation took place near the jury van, the freelancer never contacted or intended to contact the jurors during deliberations, and never photographed or intended to photograph them," NBC News said in a statement obtained by CNN's Brian Stelter. "We regret the incident and will fully cooperate with the authorities on any investigation."

TIFWIW.

This is a carefully worded statement. Freelancer or no he was doing it at NBC's behest under the direction of one of their NY producers.

 

[Bazza]

 

[AUDub]

This is a carefully worded statement. Freelancer or no he was doing it at NBC's behest under the direction of one of their NY producers.

And it's obvious what they're after. They want to ID the jury for exclusive interviews after the verdict is handed down.

 

[crimsonaudio]

And it's obvious what they're after. They want to ID the jury for exclusive interviews after the verdict is handed down.

And as crazy as some people are, they jurists surely don't want their identities known.

 

[Bamabuzzard]

And it's obvious what they're after. They want to ID the jury for exclusive interviews after the verdict is handed down.

I know a business owner (locally) who had the unfortunate opportunity to have something happen in the parking lot of his business that afforded him another unfortunate opportunity to deal with the local media. He has a security system with video and it was a big enough deal to make the local news.

He had local reporters calling constantly, walking into his business during business hours, and hounding him constantly to "make a statement". He said it was like a pack of hyenas trying to chew every sliver of meat off a dead animal. They're savages just looking for any way to get their big break. Ethics, courtesy, or just common decency be damned.

 

[TIDE-HSV]

You are absolutely right that there is no comparison between the two.

But there were many who were negatively affected in Kenosha by the riots last year. I hope they are afforded the same degree of justice as we are providing in the capital riots.

That was the only point I was trying to make.

Well, let me try again. There were two negative effects, both from the insurrection and the kenosha (and other) riots. One is criminal. One is civil. In riots like Kenosha, the offenders do have both civil and criminal liability. Sometimes, both are assessed. However, because of the lack of cameras and proof, enforcement of those liabilities is generally spotty. In the case of the insurrection, proof against hundreds is easy. They paraded back and forth beneath security cameras and, in some cases, took selfies and posted them on social media (stupidly). In that kind of case, proof is easy, for both civil and criminal. Of course, many of the insurrectionists' crimes go far, far above the destruction of private property in a Kenosha riot. I understand that there have been quite a number of civil suits by those damaged in the insurrection, mainly by injured civil servants. Once again, proof is easy. IDK how those civil suits are turning out. But, again, the seriousness of the offenses of the two groups cannot be compared...

 

[92tide]

whaddabout is never about accurate comparison

 

[Bazza]

Well, let me try again. There were two negative effects, both from the insurrection and the kenosha (and other) riots. One is criminal. One is civil. In riots like Kenosha, the offenders do have both civil and criminal liability. Sometimes, both are assessed. However, because of the lack of cameras and proof, enforcement of those liabilities is generally spotty. In the case of the insurrection, proof against hundreds is easy. They paraded back and forth beneath security cameras and, in some cases, took selfies and posted them on social media (stupidly). In that kind of case, proof is easy, for both civil and criminal. Of course, many of the insurrectionists' crimes go far, far above the destruction of private property in a Kenosha riot. I understand that there have been quite a number of civil suits by those damaged in the insurrection, mainly by injured civil servants. Once again, proof is easy. IDK how those civil suits are turning out. But, again, the seriousness of the offenses of the two groups cannot be compared...

OK thanks.