Kyle Rittenhouse a hero? (update - not guilty on all charges)

[MikeInBama]

Are you concerned that a minor might take a weapon across state lines to a celebration and start shooting?

Or maybe that they'll invade the nation's capitol and kill policemen?

I'm sure it would be a mostly peaceful revenge for not getting their way.

 

[jthomas666]

I have 2 concerns though.

1. There are a lot of absolute idiots out there that do not understand the nuances of self-defense and the how and why of this verdict. Afraid this could encourage more people to think vigilantism is OK.

2. I hope Rittenhouse does not get sucked into the seductive alt-right community that is making a hard sell for him right now.

Well, Matt Gaetz wants to offer him an internship, so he should be safe there.

 

[AUDub]

Well, Matt Gaetz wants to offer him an internship, so he should be safe there.

As I said, a hard sell.

I hope he goes to therapy rather than the comfort of ass hats.

 

[Bamaro]

Not really the time or place to go down the 'firearm definition rabbit-hole' but Rittenhouse didn't carry an 'assault rifle', which by definition is a rifle capable of automatic fire.

It was a small-caliber sporting rifle.

FWIW I believe it was a Smith and Wesson M&P 15. Yup, its a rabbit-hole to get into whether its an 'assult (style) rifle' .

 

[AlexanderFan]

Are you concerned that a minor might take a weapon across state lines to a celebration and start shooting?

Or maybe that they'll invade the nation's capitol and kill policemen?

Maybe they’ll occupy part of Kenosha and attempt to declare independence from the United States.

 

[TIDE-HSV]

I have 2 concerns though.

1. There are a lot of absolute idiots out there that do not understand the nuances of self-defense and the how and why of this verdict. Afraid this could encourage more people to think vigilantism is OK.

2. I hope Rittenhouse does not get sucked into the seductive alt-right community that is making a hard sell for him right now.

This obviously is my fear also. No matter whether or not the societal aftereffects are not what we want, an individual can't be punished for that reason. While I respect the verdicts of the jury, I think the facts could have supported the manslaughter verdict...

 

[AUDub]

French's take

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1461779998906503171

 

[TexasBama]

This obviously is my fear also. No matter whether or not the societal aftereffects are not what we want, an individual can't be punished for that reason. While I respect the verdicts of the jury, I think the facts could have supported the manslaughter verdict...

I haven’t really followed this, but it seems there could have been some charge brought that would have at least given someone pause prior to doing something stupid.

 

[CrimsonNagus]

So, not only do cops get away with gunning people down, now right-wing conservative nut jobs can go somewhere to "protect and serve" and also gun people down in "self defense". This is just going to embattle all the other right wing nuts who think it is their god given right to police the streets against those libs.

We better hope and pray that this conservative movement of violence doesn't become better organized or the next insurrection attempt will spill a lot more blood.

 

[NationalTitles18]

So, not only do cops get away with gunning people down, now right-wing conservative nut jobs can go somewhere to "protect and serve" and also gun people down in "self defense". This is just going to embattle all the other right wing nuts who think it is their god given right to police the streets against those libs.

We better hope and pray that this conservative movement of violence doesn't become better organized or the next insurrection attempt will spill a lot more blood.

Don't worry: They will always give the black 17 year old with an illegal firearm the same presumption of innocence as they did the white nutcase.

 

[CrimsonNagus]

French's take

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1461779998906503171

And I agree with this tweet in response to Fench's. You travel, across state lines, to a dangerous spot, armed... self defense should be off the table. Dude got away with man slaughter and it is disgusting. Right wing nuts now have the courts permission to go to war against BLM.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1461780525102907404

 

[TexasBama]

It was a small-caliber sporting rifle.

I’m sure there’s plenty of small caliber barrels being clutched this afternoon.

 

[NationalTitles18]

So what are the chances federal charges are filed? Could he be brought up on a firearms charge or Civil Rights violation charge?

 

[TIDE-HSV]

I haven’t really followed this, but it seems there could have been some charge brought that would have at least given someone pause prior to doing something stupid.

That may not be the reason for bringing a charge against an individual. Our criminal law does not allow prosecuting an individual (thank God) for the purpose of making an example out of him/her...

 

[TexasBama]

That may not be the reason for bringing a charge against an individual. Our criminal law does not allow prosecuting an individual (thank God) for the purpose of making an example out of him/her...

I wasn't implying that.

 

[Maudiemae]

Hopefully the jury is protected, I don't see the left taking this well.

You are correct. I am not taking it well at all.

 

[AUDub]

So what are the chances federal charges are filed? Could he be brought up on a firearms charge or Civil Rights violation charge?

Slim to none.

 

[PaulD]

So what are the chances federal charges are filed? Could he be brought up on a firearms charge or Civil Rights violation charge?

I guess it's possible. It looks like the trial would be in Milwaukee; I don't know how that would affect the composition of the jury.

 

[AlexanderFan]

That may not be the reason for bringing a charge against an individual. Our criminal law does not allow prosecuting an individual (thank God) for the purpose of making an example out of him/her...

He was wanting some little known charge to hit him with so that his life would be ruined and give pause to anyone else who might be in a similar situation.

The irony of liberals who are totally fine with making up laws to convict people are worried that far right wing conservatives will use this as a launch pad for nonsense.

 

[AUDub]

He was wanting some little known charge to hit him with so that his life would be ruined and give pause to anyone else who might be in a similar situation.

The irony of liberals who are totally fine with making up laws to convict people are worried that far right wing conservatives will use this as a launch pad for nonsense.

I personally think the gun charge should have stuck. Pretty sure the spirit of the law was violated.

Some lazily drafted exceptions are what spared him that charge, and the judge was right to dismiss it.