Let's get something straight about "Gadsden..." (read edit to opening post)

TIDE-HSV

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Re: Let's get something straight about "Gadsden..." (read edit to opening post)

Believe whom you want to believe. There are here established records for credibility which you are unaware of or have your own reasons to ignore. As you wish. You've made your point adequately, now drop it...
 

Crimson Cat

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Re: Let's get something straight about "Gadsden..." (read edit to opening post)

I'm not saying it's anywhere near what this site is.

Ok, just an example from one of the Gadsden threads over there.

"Completely SEPERATE issue. NCAA will respond in their time to it. I live in Gadsden and I can guarantee you the NCAA has been here and will probably be back again to talk the the people involved. The NCAA will not rule on ongoing investigations and that is the current status in Gadsden although many on this board do not have the I.Q. to understand that so they dismiss it as rumor."

Effectively what he's saying is the same as what some are here in terms of his sources, its just flipped the other way. For all the forum users know, he's just as knowledgeable as you are.

Once again not saying that he is right and you are wrong.

It just seems hypocritical to say "Everything posted on an Auburn message board is wrong, but everything posted here is right"


What you read on the open board is only the tip of the iceburg...you'd have to pay to read their insiders board which is where the majority of that all started. Thats according to one of their own posters. I'm not a subscriber & wouldn't want to be, but thats the word from a couple of their posters. Certain posters planted just enough info on the open board to get their little tigger troops riled up and buy into their scheme & run with it. But most of it is on their premium site. Plus their mods did a lot of deleting a while back on the open board due to some complaints I understand as it was getting out of hand. From what I read on another board, it seems they were throwing actual names around & some of those people found out about it and took offense to their name being slandered.
 
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rolltide7854

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Re: Let's get something straight about "Gadsden..." (read edit to opening post)

One of the reasons I like this site is they don't allow all the wild rumors that ITAT does. Another bama site I go to allows just about anything like ITAT. If someone there posted this there I would very leery of believing it unless it was 2-3 posters.
 

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Re: Let's get something straight about "Gadsden..." (read edit to opening post)

Some of the individuals who were libeled are presently considering legal action, and have been for some time. I'd say that the possibility of that eventuality is better than 50-50. I hope they carry through with it...
 

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Re: Let's get something straight about "Gadsden..." (read edit to opening post)

I'm not saying it's anywhere near what this site is.

Ok, just an example from one of the Gadsden threads over there.

"Completely SEPERATE issue. NCAA will respond in their time to it. I live in Gadsden and I can guarantee you the NCAA has been here and will probably be back again to talk the the people involved. The NCAA will not rule on ongoing investigations and that is the current status in Gadsden although many on this board do not have the I.Q. to understand that so they dismiss it as rumor."

Effectively what he's saying is the same as what some are here in terms of his sources, its just flipped the other way. For all the forum users know, he's just as knowledgeable as you are.

Once again not saying that he is right and you are wrong.

It just seems hypocritical to say "Everything posted on an Auburn message board is wrong, but everything posted here is right"
mkb193, please understand that we do not post unfounded rumors on this board. If it does by some chance happen, it is promptly deleted and the poster is reprim....uh....gently reminded of the rules. If you ever have a question that could be interpreted as starting a rumor, I would recommend sending a private message to an administrator for an answer, rather than posting the question on the board. It is this kind of consideration that separates this board from most AU sites. Remember, knowing someone who lives in Gadsden is not the same as having a source........ Watch this site over the next year, and you will see that most of what is posted does in fact come to pass.
 

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Re: Let's get something straight about "Gadsden..." (read edit to opening post)

What you read on the open board is only the tip of the iceburg...you'd have to pay to read their insiders board which is where the majority of that all started. Thats according to one of their own posters. I'm not a subscriber & wouldn't want to be, but thats the word from a couple of their posters. Certain posters planted just enough info on the open board to get their little tigger troops riled up and buy into their scheme & run with it. But most of it is on their premium site. Plus their mods did a lot of deleting a while back on the open board due to some complaints I understand as it was getting out of hand. From what I read on another board, it seems they were throwing actual names around & some of those people found out about it and took offense to their name being slandered.
yeah, I've always kinda wondered what goes on in the premium Auburn boards.

I think a lot of it would be actually pretty funny :) maybe one day I'll find some buddies to split a membership cost or something just to see what goes on in the inner workings of their "organization" lol
 

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Re: Let's get something straight about "Gadsden..." (read edit to opening post)

There is no "Gadsden." I notice on certain boards the mantra has started up big time "Just wait until they get hammered by the NCAA about Gadsden." "Gadsden" was self-investigated by an independent law firm and investigators, at a considerable cost. The result was turned over to the NCAA, and, just as in the textbook matter, accepted. Further, every single vehicle driven by a student athlete is "vetted" as to title, where the money came from to purchase the car, etc. The NCAA is aware of this. We are one of the few schools doing this (or wanting to do it). There is no NCAA investigation ongoing concerning us in Gadsden. In fact, we've been notified that there is not and that the report was accepted and closed. If there were other open issues, they would have been mentioned the report yesterday. So - forget "Gadsden." The barn, OTOH, has a couple of worrisome issues there...

EDIT: As a respected sportswriter friend has posted elsewhere, the NCAA, as a custom, always combines cases, which makes sense. There was only one anomalous case where procedural issues dragged out on one of the charges. It's been over a year since the book PLOI. IOW, the chances of anything else going on concerning Bama are small to the vanishing point, or they would have been combined. (Translation for barn lurkers - no second, Gadsden letter, no matter what your little hearts desire.)
Go gettum earle!!!
 

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Re: Let's get something straight about "Gadsden..." (read edit to opening post)

yeah, I've always kinda wondered what goes on in the premium Auburn boards.

I think a lot of it would be actually pretty funny :) maybe one day I'll find some buddies to split a membership cost or something just to see what goes on in the inner workings of their "organization" lol
Premium Auburn Board . . . you mean like Yella Wood? :p
 

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Re: Let's get something straight about "Gadsden..." (read edit to opening post)

TIDE-HSV, you do a great job with this site. You have always been honest and fair with your post, so I guess we will just have to wait in see on the Auburn stuff. Also, I believe it's time for ITAT to stop their corrupt ways ...... they are just a pathetic group of individuals.
 

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Re: Let's get something straight about "Gadsden..." (read edit to opening post)

We will just have to wait and see what happens with their Gadsden exposure. One thing's for sure - their cockeyed overlapping PLOI 1s and 2s is absurd beyond belief. They could do a little NCAA research and see for themselves, but they'd rather stroke each other in their little cult they call a "family..."
 

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Re: Let's get something straight about "Gadsden..." (read edit to opening post)

I'm not saying it's anywhere near what this site is.

Ok, just an example from one of the Gadsden threads over there.

"Completely SEPERATE issue. NCAA will respond in their time to it. I live in Gadsden and I can guarantee you the NCAA has been here and will probably be back again to talk the the people involved. The NCAA will not rule on ongoing investigations and that is the current status in Gadsden although many on this board do not have the I.Q. to understand that so they dismiss it as rumor."

Effectively what he's saying is the same as what some are here in terms of his sources, its just flipped the other way. For all the forum users know, he's just as knowledgeable as you are.

Once again not saying that he is right and you are wrong.

It just seems hypocritical to say "Everything posted on an Auburn message board is wrong, but everything posted here is right"
I think you are missing the point. The TideFans poster making these comments has an impeccable record when posting something as fact.

The au posters have made so many charges that have not come to fruition that one wonders how anyone could believe a word they say. They have gotten absolutely nothing, I mean nothing, right concerning Bama since Saban arrived.
 

Drewy26

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Re: Let's get something straight about "Gadsden..." (read edit to opening post)

Believe whom you want to believe. There are here established records for credibility which you are unaware of or have your own reasons to ignore. As you wish. You've made your point adequately, now drop it...
I appreciate this entire thread and I do believe you, but I understand where this guy is coming from. We have been railing against the Aubs and their rumors of NCAA PLOIs raining down on Tuscaloosa.

At first glance, and without any context, the charges you have made against Auburm seem similar.

Of course, as you explained, the credibility of the source is the distinction. Threads like this are one big reason why I am a subscriber here.

Another important distinction between us and the Aubs is that we are not piling all hopes for the success of our program on the chance that the NCAA will set up shop in East Alabama. For me, it's just a hilarious side show to The Process. We'll be fine regardless. Without serious help from the NCAA, the odds of success are against the barn. To be honest, Auburn is on the verge of irrelevance, and our real SEC competition is from LSU, Georgia, and Florida. To me it doesn't appear that Auburn will be a factor for several years, not that beating them will be any less satisfying.

I am just waiting to see what wild speculation they will come up with next. This time last year it was that Julio Jones wouldn't qualify, that Saban was unhappy in Tuscaloosa and was leaving, etc.

Your original post in this thread is much appreciated and has made me much more confident in Bama's situation going forward.
 

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Re: Let's get something straight about "Gadsden..." (read edit to opening post)

understood on this board, if TideHSV posts it, you can book it.

also know that the sec office has full knowledge of whats going on and they aren't going to allow this to slide. if ignored, the whole league is at stake. this behavior isn't going to be tolerated. you can take that to the bank too.
 

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Re: Let's get something straight about "Gadsden..." (read edit to opening post)

understood on this board, if TideHSV posts it, you can book it.
Yep, and the fact that this board has such high standards regarding rumor-mongering is what lends credibility to the story of Auburn's "Gadsden Problem." If you see it here, and the thread is allowed to survive, you can pretty well take it to the bank.

This story has legs like Miss Alabama.
 

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Re: Let's get something straight about "Gadsden..." (read edit to opening post)

understood on this board, if TideHSV posts it, you can book it.

also know that the sec office has full knowledge of whats going on and they aren't going to allow this to slide. if ignored, the whole league is at stake. this behavior isn't going to be tolerated. you can take that to the bank too.
From the SEC website "The Southeastern Conference will distribute approximately $132.5 million to the 12 league institutions in the revenue sharing plan for the 2008-2009 fiscal year, which ends Aug. 31, 2009, according to league commissioner Mike Slive."

I highly doubt that the SEC office will stand by and allow a bunch of juvenile itat insiders to destroy that revenue stream.


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Re: Let's get something straight about "Gadsden..." (read edit to opening post)

This is a high class joint. When the admins say something you can take it to the bank!
 

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Re: Let's get something straight about "Gadsden..." (read edit to opening post)

I've just went over to ITAT, and theres at least 3-4 thread titles on "Gadsden" plus about 5 other thread titles all about Bama. Obsessed much?

This thread is not meant to propagate rumors on the barn, its meant to shed light on the Gadsden rumors, as it relates to BAMA.
Thanks everyone for some clarification. It was needed.
 

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Re: Let's get something straight about "Gadsden..." (read edit to opening post)

The holier than thou attitude is what i don't get. Forget about SACS and the sociology scandal that is far worse than giving a friend a textbook. The AU program spent five straight decades on probation and the only reason they got off this decade is because no one would listen to Terry Bowden and Paul Davis.

"They were paying players cash, $12,000, $15,000 to sign," Bowden said on the recording. "All I was told to do was shake hands and say, 'Thank you. I appreciate how much you love Auburn."'
The history books say AU is the dirtiest program in the SEC yet they stand there with a rock in one hand and hundred dollar bills in the other.
 

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Re: Let's get something straight about "Gadsden..." (read edit to opening post)

Here is the official tidefans.com stance on rumors and information:

* We will provide the best available content by assembling outstanding and knowledgeable staff, writers, and editors.

* We will provide the most accurate content by ensuring that no unsubstantiated rumor is posted by any staff member. ALL unsubstantiated rumors posted by registered users will be rebuffed with facts or removed from the site.

* We will provide the most current content by maintaining contact with various sources inside and outside The University who provide reliable and current information. No information will be bought, bribed, blackmailed, or otherwise obtained in any manner except at the sole discretion of the provider of such information.

As stated not all rumors are immediately removed, some are rebuffed. It is a judgement call which would be the most productive.
 

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Re: Let's get something straight about "Gadsden..." (read edit to opening post)

As stated not all rumors are immediately removed, some are rebuffed. It is a judgement call which would be the most productive.
The occasional public razing of rumors helps to keep the rules fresh on the minds of anyone that wants to start a thread; which in turn helps them to remember to verify their information before posting. Sure makes for a more enjoyable experience to fans that come looking for legit information concerning our team.
 

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