Link: Masoli Wins Appeal with NCAA

[Tide Warrior]

Agreed. If you don't like the rule then change it. Discretions or not, Masoli met all of the requirements to transfer in.
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Actually the rule is the player can not, but if certian exceptions are met the NCAA can determine on a case by case that a waiver can be applied to the rule if the player meets those requiremnets to receive the waiver. So yes he did what he had to and met the requirments and the NCAA then decided they would grant him the waiver and allow him to play.

My issue with the NCAA now is what is the difference between today and Tuesday. Nothing changed so it just goes to show you how screwed up the NCAA is.

 

[jps1983]

Right ruling. I wouldn't doubt if the NCAA tweaks this rule now though
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Probably and if the NCAA acts like any gov't agency, they're going to go overboard on the new rule. I think they'll make a blanket rule that every player has to sit out a year when they transfer to any other 1-A school (the ONLY exception being schools on probation where upperclassmen can transfer and play immediately).

 

[GreatDanish]

I just cant morally agree with this. He committed a crime and violated team rules. His coaches punished him so he left to escape that punishment. I'm all for second chances, but this was not the right way to earn it.

Well, I don't think he really "escaped" punishment. I mean, if you are an engineer and you get caught doing something wrong let's say your firm fires you. Is it wrong to go seek employment at another engineering firm? I mean, the punishment is the being fired from your firm. That doesn't necessarily mean you shouldn't seek employment elsewhere. It should mean that other engineering firms wouldn't want you. But, Ole Miss wanted him...

Masoli is stupid for committing the crime.
Ole Miss is stupid (kind of) for taking him.
The NCAA is just stupid.

 

[RJ YellowHammer]

Actually the rule is the player can not, but if certian exceptions are met the NCAA can determine on a case by case that a waiver can be applied to the rule if the player meets those requiremnets to receive the waiver. So yes he did what he had to and met the requirments and the NCAA then decided they would grant him the waiver and allow him to play.

My issue with the NCAA now is what is the difference between today and Tuesday. Nothing changed so it just goes to show you how screwed up the NCAA is.

Right. But in cases exactly like this case, the waiver has always been granted. That's called precedent, and failure to follow may be considered discrimination. I'm no Ole Miss apologist. I just like for everyone to get a fair shake, not that I've ever expected that from the NCAA...
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[CapstoneGrad06]

I guess it's fine to be a thug, like Masoli, or an alcoholic, like Dan Cody, but good characters like Todd Bates or Marcell Dareus get the short end of the stick.

 

[BamaMTA06]

I just cant morally agree with this. He committed a crime and violated team rules. His coaches punished him so he left to escape that punishment. I'm all for second chances, but this was not the right way to earn it.

I look at it as his punishment was not being allowed to play football at Oregon during the 2010 season; He will not be a member of the Oregon football team in 2010. Before the suspension he was a scholarship QB and a Heisman hopeful on a team at the top of their conference coming off of a BCS bowl. Now he's a non-scholarship QB on a team at the bottom of their conference. Sounds like punishment to me.

 

[Bama Torch in Pcola]

I guess it's fine to be a thug, like Masoli, or an alcoholic, like Dan Cody, but good characters like Todd Bates or Marcell Dareus get the short end of the stick.

I wouldn't call him a thug. A thief, sure, but not a thug.

I'm split on this one. On one hand I can certainly see why he shouldn't be allowed to play. The fact that he transferred away from Oregon shows me that he doesn't want to man up and take responsibility for his actions.

On the other hand, he does meet the requirements of the rule, so the NCAA has no business denying him the right to play.

I think Ole Miss made a deal with the devil when they decided to take him. They had the right to do so, but they shouldn't have done it.

 

[37bamagrl]

I agree with almost everyone on this

i too am interested to see him play.

I think it's totally wrong for him to get kicked off a team, dodge his suspension by going to another team.

But it was within the rules.

But what did the NCAA figure out in the last four days, than was different then what they figured out when they had weeks/months. Whatever it is, i hope they figure out the same with Dareus's suspension and reduce it a game.

i'm so tired of the ncaa

 

[Henryrolltide]

I am surprised by this, first the ncaa goes against their own protocol, then backtracks and lets him play, does not make sense. Then again, when did they ever make sense.

It will be interesting to watch him with Ole Miss.

 

[BornCRIMSON]

I just cant morally agree with this. He committed a crime and violated team rules. His coaches punished him so he left to escape that punishment. I'm all for second chances, but this was not the right way to earn it.

Agree, It was NOT EARNED!

.........end around!...

ROLL TIDE !! :BigA:

 

[HitMan54]

I agree with almost everyone on this

i too am interested to see him play.

I think it's totally wrong for him to get kicked off a team, dodge his suspension by going to another team.

But it was within the rules.

But what did the NCAA figure out in the last four days, than was different then what they figured out when they had weeks/months. Whatever it is, i hope they figure out the same with Dareus's suspension and reduce it a game.

i'm so tired of the ncaa

AGREED! I just want to review WHAT the DETAILS were so I can make a more accurate opinion.

Maybe Roger Goodell can help run college football. Looks like he is keeping the NFL in line...just saying

 

[CrimsonChuck]

I just cant morally agree with this. He committed a crime and violated team rules. His coaches punished him so he left to escape that punishment. I'm all for second chances, but this was not the right way to earn it.

The blame here lies with Houston Nutt for taking him in the first place. Unlike the NFL, it isn't against the NCAA rules to commit a crime. Masoli did not violate one single NCAA rule. Punishment for breaking the law is purely the schools' and the coaches' decisions. And this isn't the first legal but ethically questionable thing that Nutt has done and it certainly won't be the last either.

 

[Alasippi]

geez man why is everyone so quick to judge and put the kid down??? man he made some mistakes and hopefully he is working on bettering himself as a human being. i cant stand when grown men (or women) randomly bash a kid with zero knowledge of the kid or his character first hand. no none on here knows the circumstances which led him to make some very poor choices but geez cut him some slack. blast at way at me if you feel the need but it gets old seeing people continually bash teenage kids for wrong doing especially when most would not be singing the same tune if the kid played for bama. i know some of these are just jokes IMO there is little room for it.

as for him being cleared, good for him it was the right decision by the NCAA regardless. i still say it is a dumb rule but the ncaa created it so they have to abide by it. should be fun to watch for sure!

I agree that the NCAA made the right ruling. As far as grown men and women judging the poor soul, it's not the case. The only grown man who judged him was the judge who found him guilty of the crimes he committed.

There's no speculation as to his character. He hasn't exhibited any.

Will he straighten himself out. I certainly hope so, because he's young enough to overcome his mistakes.

But he didn't get a couple of "bad breaks" he made a couple of stupid mistakes that were against the law. He needs to thank his lucky stars that he was indeed playing football at the time rather than being a kid on the streets. Otherwise his buttocks may be sitting in a jailhouse somewhere.

But yes, the NCAA made the right ruling in my opinion.

sip

 

[mikes12]

The blame here lies with Houston Nutt for taking him in the first place. Unlike the NFL, it isn't against the NCAA rules to commit a crime. Masoli did not violate one single NCAA rule. Punishment for breaking the law is purely the schools' and the coaches' decisions. And this isn't the first legal but ethically questionable thing that Nutt has done and it certainly won't be the last either.

Maybe off topic, and I'm sorry if this is a derailment, but when/how did Nutt get the nickname "Right Reverend"?

 

[13 Time Champs]

Here's Houston Nutt on the situation: http://www.danharralson.us/

 

[TIDE-HSV]

I agree with almost everyone on this

i too am interested to see him play.

I think it's totally wrong for him to get kicked off a team, dodge his suspension by going to another team.

But it was within the rules.

But what did the NCAA figure out in the last four days, than was different then what they figured out when they had weeks/months. Whatever it is, i hope they figure out the same with Dareus's suspension and reduce it a game.

i'm so tired of the ncaa

On these eligibility questions, rather than the appeal going in house, it goes out to a committee composed of reps from various member school. This committee is not limited by the "abuse of discretion" standard that the COA is when reviewing decisions of the COI. IOW, if they disagree, they can just change it - and quickly. I actually have a bit of optimism at this point. There was plenty of language used by the NCAA which would support a reversal...

 

[BornCRIMSON]

Be that as it may, why should the NCAA step in and stop him from enrolling elsewhere?

Enroll anywhere you wish, he just shouldn't be able to play football for 1 year.

Just keep lowering the bar,......is the word accountability even in the dictionary anymore?

WELL DIP ME IN POOP AND ROLL ME IN CRACKER CRUMBS!!!....it is.

ACCOUNTABILITY: noun, the state of being accountable, liable, or
answerable.

I don't think Masoli qualifies........


ROLL TIDE !! :BigA:

 

[JDCrimson]

On these eligibility questions, rather than the appeal going in house, it goes out to a committee composed of reps from various member school. This committee is not limited by the "abuse of discretion" standard that the COA is when reviewing decisions of the COI. IOW, if they disagree, they can just change it - and quickly. I actually have a bit of optimism at this point. There was plenty of language used by the NCAA which would support a reversal...

I view this situation similar to where a board rules a certain way to maintain the force of their policy with respect to future enforcement while in the same breath suggesting that you appeal for a reversal. Appeals in that case dont change the rule for everyone just the person applying for the appeal whose facts warrant an exception to the general application of the rule.

 

[Alasippi]

On these eligibility questions, rather than the appeal going in house, it goes out to a committee composed of reps from various member school. This committee is not limited by the "abuse of discretion" standard that the COA is when reviewing decisions of the COI. IOW, if they disagree, they can just change it - and quickly. I actually have a bit of optimism at this point. There was plenty of language used by the NCAA which would support a reversal...

Regardless of the appeal outcome I'm very proud that the NCAA pointed out the truthfulness that Marcel displayed. They're not known for passing out compliments.
Great testimony as to the character Saban develops in the vast majority his players.

 

[BamaMTA06]

Enroll anywhere you wish, he just shouldn't be able to play football for 1 year.

Just keep lowering the bar,......is the word accountability even in the dictionary anymore?

WELL DIP ME IN POOP AND ROLL ME IN CRACKER CRUMBS!!!....it is.

ACCOUNTABILITY: noun, the state of being accountable, liable, or
answerable.

I don't think Masoli qualifies........


ROLL TIDE !! :BigA:

I'm no Ole Miss fan, but he broke a TEAM rule at Oregon. He is no longer on the Oregon TEAM. He's been held accountable in criminal court and to the Oregon coaching staff. I broke a company rule when I started dating and married another accountant at my firm. The company let me go and I found a job at another accounting firm. My punishment was no longer being able to work for that firm just as Masoli is no longer able to play at Oregon.