Milroe - Is There Something Else Going On? - NO TEASERS

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colbysullivan

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No. And I didn't say that. The claim was that the 2 interceptions Milroe had were the ugliest ever. I pointed out that maybe the 2 pick sixes Mac had against Auburn were the ugliest. 🤷🏼‍♂️
The 2nd one Mac threw was a fluke, and he was being tackled. Both of Milroe’s INTs had a clean pocket.
 

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Several posters…well, one…kept saying it was because USF was tired. What reason did they have to be tired? They got over an hour of rest in the rain delay, and Bama’s offense wasn’t churning up a bunch of yards for the first 3 quarters. Some people are just blind and can’t or won’t see the intangibles.
Reading what some here are saying, one would think Simpson is the greatest quarterback ever in the history of Alabama football. He did ok. Just ok. He completed 5 of 9 passes. What...55%. He did not do anything great or special.
 

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Two TE set , pound the ball with Williams and play action off the runs. High flying offense… no. But it would get us through the season. We just have no offensive identity at the moment. That gives Simpson a season to mature and get Sayin here to compete.
 

colbysullivan

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Reading what some here are saying, one would think Simpson is the greatest quarterback ever in the history of Alabama football. He did ok. Just ok. He completed 5 of 9 passes. What...55%. He did not do anything great or special.
We were in danger of losing the game with Buchner. That was a legit possibility. Would we have won by 4 TDs if Milroe started? Yes, very likely. Would that have solved anything? Not at all. We might have found something with Simpson.
 

Grogan11

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Reading what some here are saying, one would think Simpson is the greatest quarterback ever in the history of Alabama football. He did ok. Just ok. He completed 5 of 9 passes. What...55%. He did not do anything great or special.
and it was impossible to tell on the broadcast because of the camera issues but I bet when they go back to look at the tape he had a bunch of guys open on most of the sacks he took. I’ll be very surprised if he gets the start this weekend. JM gives the team the best chance to win now. If we drop another one I think you definitely move to TS or DL or anybody but JM. Until then, I think it’s his team.
 

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and it was impossible to tell on the broadcast because of the camera issues but I bet when they go back to look at the tape he had a bunch of guys open on most of the sacks he took. I’ll be very surprised if he gets the start this weekend. JM gives the team the best chance to win now. If we drop another one I think you definitely move to TS or DL or anybody but JM. Until then, I think it’s his team.
How can you honestly knock Simpson for taking sacks when Milroe has already shown us the exact same thing AND has a tendency to turn the ball over? This narrative that “Milroe gives us the best chance to win” is objectively wrong. He lost the Texas game.
 

colbysullivan

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I don’t want to pick a fight. He has started 3 games. Does anyone honestly think we only only score 17 points today if he started his 4th game? Also go back to what I said about scheme. If he struggles reading a defense then make the game and the read easier for him him by giving quick safe throws and picking your spots for chunk plays later in the game. My 2 cents.
That’s not the point. I don’t care how badly he beats scrub teams if he can’t read a real defense. No amount of coaching is going to suddenly make Milroe serviceable. The experiment failed. It’s time to move on.
 

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How can you honestly knock Simpson for taking sacks when Milroe has already shown us the exact same thing AND has a tendency to turn the ball over? This narrative that “Milroe gives us the best chance to win” is objectively wrong. He lost the Texas game.
Milroe 100% lost the Texas game. But do you honestly think Simpson would’ve won it? MTSU and USF are comparable opponents, who looked better? I also think the whole team is somewhat lost right now and going with JM will galvanize them. Going with TS, brings more doubt. I’m not saying JM is a better QB. Just think all things considered, he’s the best guy to go with right now. Also, I think Saban did everything he could to go with another starter. He knew his limitations. But after a long spring, bringing in TB, more fall reps. He couldn’t bring himself to go with anybody but JM to start the season. I think that’s telling.
 

colbysullivan

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Milroe 100% lost the Texas game. But do you honestly think Simpson would’ve won it? MTSU and USF are comparable opponents, who looked better? I also think the whole team is somewhat lost right now and going with JM will galvanize them. Going with TS, brings more doubt. I’m not saying JM is a better QB. Just think all things considered, he’s the best guy to go with right now. Also, I think Saban did everything he could to go with another starter. He knew his limitations. But after a long spring, bringing in TB, more fall reps. He couldn’t bring himself to go with anybody but JM to start the season. I think that’s telling.
Ty can pass the ball. Would we have beaten Texas with Ty? I don’t know. But I feel confident Ty would not have LOST the game.
 

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and it was impossible to tell on the broadcast because of the camera issues but I bet when they go back to look at the tape he had a bunch of guys open on most of the sacks he took. I’ll be very surprised if he gets the start this weekend. JM gives the team the best chance to win now. If we drop another one I think you definitely move to TS or DL or anybody but JM. Until then, I think it’s his team.
They all get sacks, when the defense is blitzing on every play. But I do agree Milroe gives the offense the best chance going forward. Simpson is but a game manager. He's not going to keep up with the high powered offenses we'll face. Milroe is the best option.
 

Grogan11

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Ty can pass the ball. Would we have beaten Texas with Ty? I don’t know. But I feel confident Ty would not have LOST the game.
I agree with that as well. For the record, I wanted JM benched after the Texas game too. I called on here for TB and TS to get all the reps against USF. Now that I watched them in game action I think JM gives us the best chance on Saturday.
As far as a QB not LOSING a game. I think those days are over. Nobody is playing field position and winning big games 14-10 anymore. You need a QB that can go out and WIN the game. In order to do that you need to play fearless and not tentative. I saw two tentative guys taking snaps yesterday. Just my opinion.
 
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colbysullivan

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I agree with that as well. For the record, I wanted JM benched after the Texas game too. I called on here for TB and TS to get all the reps against USF. Now that I watched them in game action I think JM gives us the best chance on Saturday.
As far as a QB not LOSING a game. I think those days are over. Nobody is playing field position and winning big games 14-10 anymore. You need a QB that can go out and WIN the game. In order to do that you need to play fearless and not tentative. I saw two tentative guys taking snaps yesterday. Just my opinion.
This was Ty’s first real game action. Regardless of what we think about the quality of the opponent, Ty was asked to win a game on the road where our offense had done absolutely NOTHING the entire game. I didn’t see Ty as tentative at all. He made a couple good runs and some decisive throws. I’m telling you, Milroe and especially Buchner couldn’t have made those 2 big throws yesterday. Ty should have been the starter from the beginning but team politics prevented that.
 

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There seems to be a lot of buzz about which QB is better, to the point where there seems to be 2 "camps" emerging: The Milroe crowd and the Simpson crowd. I know that is stating the obvious. I said after the spring that Ty Simpson was the QB and the roster. I continue to believe that due to a few factors that include taking care of the ball, ball velocity, underneath accuracy, quick release, and being comfortable in the pocket. Milroe has a cannon and some serious wheels. wSome are ready to blame Rees. There is not a whole lot you can call schematically when you are getting whipped up front-screens, maybe...

However, none of this makes a difference. It is the equivalent of arguing about what music the band should play as the Titantic went down. It makes no sense to me. Until we get the guys up front sorted out, It really doesn't matter who is one and two. If we are not able to run the ball, we can't win period, at least not in the SEC. Amari, Jaylen, Devonta, Jameson, Metchie, are not in that locker room. We cannot run by people. We have to have some way of establishing playaction. Right now, we don't. Roydell ran the ball extremely hard, but he was bringing his own block with him. This could be the worst o-line I have seen in Saban's tenure. Correction, it is the worst I have seen. They are big and soft, just like a pack of Angel Soft. They don't have to stay that way, but they are the only ones in control of that. I don't think they want to be that way, either. Whether it is coaching, attitude, schematics or S&C, something has to change. I don't care if they go back to a gap scheme or pin and pull. Do something to play to the strengths of 1700 lbs. of beef that you have up front. Just my honest opinion.
 

Grogan11

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This was Ty’s first real game action. Regardless of what we think about the quality of the opponent, Ty was asked to win a game on the road where our offense had done absolutely NOTHING the entire game. I didn’t see Ty as tentative at all. He made a couple good runs and some decisive throws. I’m telling you, Milroe and especially Buchner couldn’t have made those 2 big throws yesterday. Ty should have been the starter from the beginning but team politics prevented that.
I don’t disagree with anything you said but I think that last sentence is the important part. We’re talking about maximizing the teams performance. For whatever reason, the players seem to want JM over TS. If TS gets the start on Saturday I’m afraid he’ll be looking over his shoulder the whole game and play even more tentatively. The only thing that matters right now is winning on Saturday. This could get really ugly if we don’t. Milroe has won an SEC game before, he’s been in this fire. I know he’s not perfect but I’ve seen him do it. Give me that over the unknown every time.
 

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A QB is going to get sacked, when the defense pressures and blitzes non stop. They did it to Young last year. And he was good at scrambling around it.
I don’t know what y’all are watching, and not speaking on the game last night. Milroe only took 1 sack from a blitz. The rest were with 3 and 4 man rushes. If we can’t block 3 and 4 with 5 offensive lineman, we won’t win many games.
 

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Does Milroe have issues? Sure, but they’re fixable. The biggest issue is a bad OC who can’t scheme to a guy’s talents. If Sark or Kiffin are still there they’ve got Jalen rolling and possibly on some Heisman lists. Rees is in way over his head and I don’t think he can dig his way out.
 
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Does Milroe have issues? Sure, but they’re fixable. The biggest issue is a bad OC who can’t scheme to a guy’s talents. If Sark or Kiffin are still there they’ve got Jalen rolling and possibly on some Heisman lists. Rees is in way over his head and I don’t think he can dig his way out.
Had Sark or Kiffin been there then Milroe would have never started or been a thought on their mind. It’s why the Kiffin and Jalen Hurts year wasn’t really that great compared to the other two years kiffin was here.
 
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