Game Thread: Music City Bowl: North Carolina vs Tennessee
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Friend who is a UT fan that was at the game said that the Vol fans behavior was beyond atrocious as the end of regulation unfolded. Was embarrassed for the Tar Heel fans who were subjected to it. This is nothing new for this group . . . players or fans.
I think there is something to be said for cheering for SEC dominance beyond Alabama. Take the 04 Auburn season for instance. Had the SEC had the dominance then- that we are enjoying now, Auburn would have probably gotten into the NCG. I'm not sore about AU not getting in but substitute UA for AU and you see my point. The conference dominance provides a potential tie-breaker in cases where there are more than 2 teams with seemingly equal claims to play in the big game.
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What would happen if all the other SEC teams lost in bowl games every year except for Alabama? Look at it this way. Look at how we see other conferences such as the ACC or Big East who fail miserably in bowl games. Don't we use that basis as part of our argument that the SEC is the best conference? And doesn't the media do the same thing? And as we've seen the human part of the polls are influenced by all of the above.
Does anyone really think the SEC is immune to tanking in bowl games and OOC games and still being respected nationally the way we currently are and still having a one loss SEC champion getting that consideration over another undefeated team from another conference?
Considering how much the rest of the country wants to see us fall and part of that "rest of the country" is the media. I think it would be naive to think that the SEC could lose bowl games on a continual basis and still have the respect we currently do. We don't have that kind of immunity.
Does anyone really think the SEC is immune to tanking in bowl games and OOC games and still being respected nationally the way we currently are and still having a one loss SEC champion getting that consideration over another undefeated team from another conference?
Considering how much the rest of the country wants to see us fall and part of that "rest of the country" is the media. I think it would be naive to think that the SEC could lose bowl games on a continual basis and still have the respect we currently do. We don't have that kind of immunity.
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No one says we have any immunity from losing respect, I'm saying it doesn't matter - we win, we're in. We're not BSU and the SEC isn't the WAC.
But isn't that immunity? Being able to have your conference lose national respect due to losing bowl games and yet still garner the "stroke" of a team that no longer plays in "the toughest conference in the country"? I don't agree with that. I think what the SEC has earned it has to continue to earn. That we can't sit here and have our conference go into the tank in bowl games/OOC games year after year and expect to be treated with the same respect as a conference that normally dominates in bowl games. I maybe wrong but I just don't think we'd keep that type of stroke.
We have 10 SEC teams in bowls. If we go 8-2 or 7-3 we won't lose any respect. Therefore, it won't hurt if i pull against UcheaT, the barn, and maybe the Gators (simply because their fans are so obnoxious!).
I look at it this way - me pulling for a team will not determine the outcome of any game.
I'm not going to support programs that sought to do ill to my beloved team just because it may or may not help public perception of our conference. Especially when that conference was an active participant in a sting operation against Alabama.
No, I will never pull for Tennessee or Auburn. Even if they were playing Notre Dame. And for an Alabama fan, that's saying something. There was a day when I would, and this was when Tennessee was routinely kicking our butts ('97-'01). Heck, I was as upset as any Tennessee fan when Manning didn't win the Heisman in '97. But Phil Fulmer and Roy Kramer changed all that.
I'm not going to support programs that sought to do ill to my beloved team just because it may or may not help public perception of our conference. Especially when that conference was an active participant in a sting operation against Alabama.
No, I will never pull for Tennessee or Auburn. Even if they were playing Notre Dame. And for an Alabama fan, that's saying something. There was a day when I would, and this was when Tennessee was routinely kicking our butts ('97-'01). Heck, I was as upset as any Tennessee fan when Manning didn't win the Heisman in '97. But Phil Fulmer and Roy Kramer changed all that.
Exactly! This is my thought process. I just cannot, in good faith to the Crimson Tide, cheer/pull for UT or Auburn. I also get great satisfaction at seeing Ole Miss and Arkansas lose as well.
DOUBLE DOG DITTEAUX!!!
I clicked to the last page and read your post, before I'll reading from beginning of thread, TideEngineer08. I only caught a little the last 10 minutes of the game, where the Viles went ahead. I was thrilled with the deja vu ending similar to their LSU game. I love when the Viles have a Rocky Stop ending - when they snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
Rekin I'm et up with that schadenfreude disease. :biggrin:Amen, brother!!!
That 6-6 UT team representing the SEC? And some are concerned with the respect factor? The conference would have lost respect even if UT had won. Both teams proved that being bowl eligible does not equate to being a good team.
I will never pull for UT or AU but I'm addressing those that say they don't want ANY of the SEC teams other than Bama to win. Well I firmly believe there would be a HEAVY price tag to pay with that answered prayer. There's no way (if by chance) that the SEC could start losing every bowl game for four to five years straight and keep the same stroke we have when it comes to us getting preference over undefeated teams in championship selections. But then again, I've been known to be wrong before. :biggrin2:
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