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My take on the Texas matchup after viewing their film~!~(SMACK WARNING!)

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Bama will have the best overall defense we've played. I just haven't seen how ya'll have handled a scrambling QB. Maybe I'm wrong, but I just haven't seen the tape and Tebow just isn't the best comparison.

On the other side... TX toughest game on D was against a scrambling QB named Jerrod Johnson. What kind of scrambler is Mcelroy? Is he a statue? Is he good at avoiding sure sacks?
 
Orangechipper said:
Bama will have the best overall defense we've played. I just haven't seen how ya'll have handled a scrambling QB. Maybe I'm wrong, but I just haven't seen the tape and Tebow just isn't the best comparison.

On the other side... TX toughest game on D was against a scrambling QB named Jerrod Johnson. What kind of scrambler is Mcelroy? Is he a statue? Is he good at avoiding sure sacks?
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The two QBs we were told would hurt us scrambling were the VT QB and the LSU guy. Snead also has hurt some teams running. Tebow is in a class of his own. He seldom runs far, but he's hell on wheels to stop before four yards and keeps the chains moving that way. We didn't stop him last year. We did this year. Mac falls between the extremes. He's no Mallett-like statue, but he's not a runner in the mold of McCoy. He's run effectively when he's had to and he's had pretty good pocket presence and has avoided a number of sacks. I believe he said that UT passed on him because they didn't feel he was mobile enough. But our running game, of course doesn't depend on him and what kind of day he's having...
 
TIDE-HSV said:
The two QBs we were told would hurt us scrambling were the VT QB and the LSU guy. Snead also has hurt some teams running. Tebow is in a class of his own. He seldom runs far, but he's hell on wheels to stop before four yards and keeps the chains moving that way. We didn't stop him last year. We did this year. Mac falls between the extremes. He's no Mallett-like statue, but he's not a runner in the mold of McCoy. He's run effectively when he's had to and he's had pretty good pocket presence and has avoided a number of sacks. I believe he said that UT passed on him because they didn't feel he was mobile enough. But our running game, of course doesn't depend on him and what kind of day he's having...
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Tks for the info!
 
Orangechipper said:
Is he good at avoiding sure sacks?
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Compare his number of sacks with uber-scrambler McCoy . . .

I think collectively, he and his OL are better at avoiding sacks than McCoy and his OL. The stats don't lie. Think about it this way, if McCoy weren't such a good scrambler, what would his sack total look like?

Before you throw out the fact that UT threw it 164 more times, consider that McCoy was sacked once per every 16 attempts, while McElroy was sacked once every 22 attempts.

Against the only two defenses that are even close to comparable to Bama's he was sacked a total of 13 times. In other words, almost half (42%) of the sacks he took for the season were against the only two defenses he faced that were ranked in the top 30 defenses in the country. That's an average of 6.5 sacks per game against top 30 defenses.

OTOH, McElroy was sacked 7 times (47%) - again almost half his season total - against the top 30 defenses he faced. The difference . . . he faced six top 30 defenses. That's an average of just over 1 sack per game against top 30 defenses.

So, is GM good at avoiding sure sacks? Not really sure; but I am very certain that our offense is better at avoiding sacks - period - than Texas. Especially against quality defenses.
 
Orangechipper said:
I just haven't seen how ya'll have handled a scrambling QB. Maybe I'm wrong, but I just haven't seen the tape and Tebow just isn't the best comparison.
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The only example I can think of a "scrambler" we've played against this year was Tyrod Taylor from VT. He had 10 totes for -26 yards and went on to have several good games running the ball for the Hokies. I think he has about 350 or so yards rushing this year and is definitely a great athlete.
 
herri026 said:
The only example I can think of a "scrambler" we've played against this year was Tyrod Taylor from VT. He had 10 totes for -26 yards and went on to have several good games running the ball for the Hokies. I think he has about 350 or so yards rushing this year and is definitely a great athlete.
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JJ for LSU was supposed to be good also. Of course we took him out of the game early...
 
trenda said:
Compare his number of sacks with uber-scrambler McCoy . . .

I think collectively, he and his OL are better at avoiding sacks than McCoy and his OL. The stats don't lie. Think about it this way, if McCoy weren't such a good scrambler, what would his sack total look like?

Before you throw out the fact that UT threw it 164 more times, consider that McCoy was sacked once per every 16 attempts, while McElroy was sacked once every 22 attempts.

Against the only two defenses that are even close to comparable to Bama's he was sacked a total of 13 times. In other words, almost half (42%) of the sacks he took for the season were against the only two defenses he faced that were ranked in the top 30 defenses in the country. That's an average of 6.5 sacks per game against top 30 defenses.

OTOH, McElroy was sacked 7 times (47%) - again almost half his season total - against the top 30 defenses he faced. The difference . . . he faced six top 30 defenses. That's an average of just over 1 sack per game against top 30 defenses.

So, is GM good at avoiding sure sacks? Not really sure; but I am very certain that our offense is better at avoiding sacks - period - than Texas. Especially against quality defenses.
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Very interesting. Thanks for posting.
 
I had to laugh at Chipper posting highlights against Iowa State and Colorado as proof of McCoy's abilities to make plays. Maybe we should post highlights of our games against North Texas and UTC as proof that we'll beat Texas...
 
UTEX74 said:
You just called the game right there. It all comes down to that in my never to be humble opinion. We need some "strategizing". And to play better for 3 1/2 hours.

Hook 'Em
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Well honestly I think it is the key to the NC righ there........ If BAMA can get pressure with only 4 maybe 5 at most we can be deadly on defense but if we start having to bring more it will lead to some big plays and alot of man-man coverage which does not go well with any defense for long periods of time..
If BAMA can keep you guys guessing on both sides of the ball it will be apparent in the first qtr of play.. Much like the SECCG you could just see it in the defenses eyes that they had no clue what we were doing and when uf was was on offense we sent 5 guys alot of the time but it was from everywhere and anyone which keep tebow a little confused... If we can manage to keep that line of attacking and if nothing else get your hands up on the pass rush since McCoy is pretty short it would help~!~
 
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Much of the past five or six pages (I have read the entire thread, BTW) focus on our DL against the Texas OL, and I guess that is because that matchup is where the largest margin of difference seems to fall. IMHO, though, the difference in this game will be our OL vs. their DL. I don't believe Texas has had to deal with a running game like ours; and I don't believe they will be able to stop it. If they don't stop it, then the PA pass will be very effective, and GMac will also eventually hook up on a long pass for a score. Many others have said it: our balance is what will decide this game, and the running game is key to that.

I wonder what our opening play will be? My bet is pretty safe: it will be a handoff to Ingram, or a fake handoff to Ingram and a short pass over the middle. Texas will have to defend both. And not just on that first play...
 
Yea once we got the smack talking out of the way and really started to discuss the football game and not some meaningless stats for the most part it gets right down to the game in the trenches on both sides for both teams. This is just my opinion but I think the reason why most of us are labeling their OL v.s. our DL is that texas is pretty much one dimensional already and the heart of their team is McCoy so getting to him and making him make mistakes is more important because they are so one dimensional.
For BAMA it is just not that way we can pass the ball and very effectively when we want too so even if texas stops the running game we are not dead in the water. For them if we shut down the pass it is highly unlikey they will magically pull this super star RB out and pound our defense too death....

I like the ideal of going PA on the first play and not something short either, send Maze and JJ deep and let Peek run a deep slant over the middle.. Double edged sword to start a game though, an INT or a sack and we are on our heels from the get go so I too believe it will be no doubt a running play but IMO it needs to be right since we still seem hung up on the left side and I know they have been studying our film so they will be ready there.. I could be out of the box but a nice screen wouldn't kill us either we seem to be getting pretty good at making them work..... :)
 
I still can't believe the posts on here saying that texas will not double Julio. That is laughable.....and will be deadly for them, if true.:)
 
BAMA504 said:
I like the ideal of going PA on the first play and not something short either, send Maze and JJ deep and let Peek run a deep slant over the middle.. Double edged sword to start a game though, an INT or a sack and we are on our heels from the get go so I too believe it will be no doubt a running play but IMO it needs to be right since we still seem hung up on the left side and I know they have been studying our film so they will be ready there.. I could be out of the box but a nice screen wouldn't kill us either we seem to be getting pretty good at making them work..... :)
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I think it should be a running play too. We need to see how they are going to play the run before we try PA (whether they leave a safety over the top or not).
 
derek4tide said:
I still can't believe the posts on here saying that texas will not double Julio. That is laughable.....and will be deadly for them, if true.:)
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Patterson for LSU did a decent job on JJ (until PP started cramping up). I hope we see the JJ from that last Auburn drive.
 
crimsonaudio said:
PP is one of the best lock-down corners I've ever seen and even he relied on tons of uncalled PI...
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Very true, but I have no reason to think the PIs will get called since they haven't been all season. UT has good DBs that can cling onto JJ too. I just meant that single covering JJ isn't going to kill UT in and of itself. I do think it is something we could exploit if JJ plays like he did at the end against AU or if we get some of the PI calls we haven't been getting.
 
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