Alabama: Nick Saban Feels 'Really Good' About QB Tyler Buchner's Development

[UAH]

TS dad did not coach him his whole career. He is the head coach at ut martin. I'm sure there was probably some "daddy voice crawling his butt", but westside won the state championship his senior year while ut martin was going 2 rounds deep in the fcs. I don't think coach simpson had the time to worry about what TS was doing in high school. And i can just about guarantee you theres no way he was on the phone to coach Saban about playing time. That's utterly ridiculous. A d1 head coach calling another d1 coach about playing time. I'll say it again, TS was a 4 star recruit from a smaller school (that took a lot of heat for coming to UA). He went thru a spring (where he could have been playing hs baseball for a state championship) with BoB as his position coach, taking snaps behind BY and JM. Then a fall camp in the same position. Was it not determined that he sustained a thumb injury in the spring game this year? But he played thru it? That shows some maturity. Maybe if given the chance, he can continue to mature and improve.

As a man on the street with absolutely no inside information on practice performances I have difficulty understanding why Ty Simpson hasn't received any meaningful snaps in blow out games when Bryce was in late in the 3rd quarter. He is a prototype QB in terms of size, throwing motion and and ability to avoid the rush. It appears to me that the cards and attitudes are stacked against him at Bama for whatever reason and the heir apparent is headed here this spring. With the addition of Buchner he will be forced to leave in the spring to 1 of 100 schools who would be highly interested.

There are those who have said on here if he decides that let him go! I would point out that Bama has lost over 40 players to the portal the last 2 years after spending aprox. $ 2.5 million per year on recruiting and untold millions on facilities and Sayin has not taken a snap at UA.

 

[editder]

As a man on the street with absolutely no inside information on practice performances I have difficulty understanding why Ty Simpson hasn't received any meaningful snaps in blow out games when Bryce was in late in the 3rd quarter. He is a prototype QB in terms of size, throwing motion and and ability to avoid the rush. It appears to me that the cards and attitudes are stacked against him at Bama for whatever reason and the heir apparent is headed here this spring. With the addition of Buchner he will be forced to leave in the spring to 1 of 100 schools who would be highly interested.

There are those who have said on here if he decides that let him go! I would point out that Bama has lost over 40 players to the portal the last 2 years after spending aprox. $ 2.5 million per year on recruiting and untold millions on facilities and Sayin has not taken a snap at UA.

I guess it’s natural to hope that Sayin will be the savior of Alabama football, but how many times have we heard that before? It rarely ever happens.

 

[TideEngineer08]

I guess it’s natural to hope that Sayin will be the savior of Alabama football, but how many times have we heard that before? It rarely ever happens.

Tua's are rare. Bryce wouldn't have fared well his true freshman year IMO; thankfully we had Mac.

 

[UAH]

I guess it’s natural to hope that Sayin will be the savior of Alabama football, but how many times have we heard that before? It rarely ever happens.

My point is he watches games and listens to comments and is particularly interested in offensive line development and receiver development. To my knowledge he has not signed a legally binding contract with Bama in this day of open portals.

 

[Bamabuzzard]

There are those who have said on here if he decides that let him go! I would point out that Bama has lost over 40 players to the portal the last 2 years after spending aprox. $ 2.5 million per year on recruiting and untold millions on facilities and Sayin has not taken a snap at UA.

This is the problem I have with the current state of the transfer portal. The recruiting hours and money that goes into it only to have a material % of those classes that the money was spent on, leave.

Here's an idea, any school (including Bama) that takes a kid from the transfer portal has to pay the outgoing school a transfer fee to compensate for the resources (time, money, etc.) lost from recruiting him. Since we're no longer going to "punish" a kid for transferring by making him lose a year of eligibility, then the school that is getting him has to have some skin in the game. If we want to run college football like a business and treat the kids like the business world treats adults, then let's do it.

 

[Tidelines]

Good idea! Never going to happen, but good idea.

 

[81usaf92]

Yea you could tell this especially towards the end of the game. He started to just throwing the ball down field to anyone he locked onto and seeing if it would work. He's fairly good at throwing deep so none of those turned into picks but they also weren't successful plays because he was often throwing to well covered or even double covered guys.

I think Milroe could be at least a little more successful in a different offense but that's not really what Saban does.

If he was at UCF or TCU then he would be a very good quarterback. Here he is not

As a man on the street with absolutely no inside information on practice performances I have difficulty understanding why Ty Simpson hasn't received any meaningful snaps in blow out games when Bryce was in late in the 3rd quarter. He is a prototype QB in terms of size, throwing motion and and ability to avoid the rush. It appears to me that the cards and attitudes are stacked against him at Bama for whatever reason and the heir apparent is headed here this spring. With the addition of Buchner he will be forced to leave in the spring to 1 of 100 schools who would be highly interested.

There are those who have said on here if he decides that let him go! I would point out that Bama has lost over 40 players to the portal the last 2 years after spending aprox. $ 2.5 million per year on recruiting and untold millions on facilities and Sayin has not taken a snap at UA.

I think Simpson is about to transfer soon. It’s a gut feeling with some things coming out of his side of it and the fact that he was having to beat out two guys who have experience that no one really wanted outside of Alabama.

I think had either Buchner never came or Buchner transferred for spring training then Milroe is probably not the quarterback. The real issue is that Buchner has strengths that Simpson doesn’t and vise versa so there is less of a separation than Buchner and Simpson amongst the staff.

 

[BamaMoon]

My point is he watches games and listens to comments and is particularly interested in offensive line development and receiver development. To my knowledge he has not signed a legally binding contract with Bama in this day of open portals.

Sayin is supposedly 100% Bama (which doesn't mean much) but what's telling is he's made many visits in order to help recruit other top talent. That says a lot about his commitment to Bama. To my knowledge, he's not giving any other program the time of day.

 

[BamaMoon]

If he was at UCF or TCU then he would be a very good quarterback. Here he is not


I think Simpson is about to transfer soon. It’s a gut feeling with some things coming out of his side of it and the fact that he was having to beat out two guys who have experience that no one really wanted outside of Alabama.

I think had either Buchner never came or Buchner transferred for spring training then Milroe is probably not the quarterback. The real issue is that Buchner has strengths that Simpson doesn’t and vise versa so there is less of a separation than Buchner and Simpson amongst the staff.

What advantages would there be transferring in the middle of the season? Even if he's unhappy, what good would it do? He's a few weeks into his classes and the football season is already into week 3. And would another team want a discontent player to come busting into their QB room in the middle of the season? Wouldn't he have to wait to next fall to play anyway?

 

[TiderJack]

I think both of these posts kinda sing towards each other in the fact that we really never had a great option. We don’t and never had a Bryce, Mac, Hurts, or Tua on the roster and we missed any opportunity to have a great experienced successor when we started the spring with Milroe vs Simpson instead of bringing a guy in pre spring from the portal. There are guys who could guide us to our goals if things go right. However there was probably an option that was far more high risk and high reward more than the others. That ofcourse is Milroe.

After going to the scrimmages and from going through multiple ironclad sources it’s apparent that there is a huge disagreement between the team and the staff at who should be quarterback. Saban chose the path of least resistance and was hoping for the best. Well now we are here.

The advantages Buchner has over Milroe is processing the field, familiarity, and delivering the ball. However there is a trade off in terms of overall athleticism and still questions of whether his issues at ND were more youth or the product of his game. So there is a risk In playing him but the risk of not playing him at this point is probably greater.


If Milroe continues to hog reps in practice and vs USF then I guarantee you that recruits and other teams will notice and we are going to sweat on having firm commitments from top talent this December.

Buchner is athletic, obviously not as much as Milroe but he is not a Mac or AJ back there. We have the #1 QB in the nation coming in the '24 class (that is salivating seeing our depth chart and current QB situation) and that always helps bring in top recruits so not worried about the recruiting effect.

 

[westide]

What good can come from Tennessee ?

Only one thing....Jack Daniels Old #7

 

[CajunCrimson]

I think Milroe starts. I think Buchner comes in on the third series. And I think who continues the game depends on how those first three series go.

 

[TiderJack]

I think Milroe starts. I think Buchner comes in on the third series. And I think who continues the game depends on how those first three series go.

I agree with you on the rotation and IIRC this is what Saban did with AJ and Sims and McElroy and Star Jackson or something similar in the opening game of those seasons.

 

[Moro Creek]

Good chance we lose three QB's at the end of the year to transfer.

 

[irvingtontide]

If he was at UCF or TCU then he would be a very good quarterback. Here he is not


I think Simpson is about to transfer soon. It’s a gut feeling with some things coming out of his side of it and the fact that he was having to beat out two guys who have experience that no one really wanted outside of Alabama.

I think had either Buchner never came or Buchner transferred for spring training then Milroe is probably not the quarterback. The real issue is that Buchner has strengths that Simpson doesn’t and vise versa so there is less of a separation than Buchner and Simpson amongst the staff.

I hate that for Simpson cause I think he has the physical talents of a very good qb. I still think he has the best arm of the 3 and watching it at warmups against MTSU I had that same takeaway. Buchner has a decent arm too his throws are more consistent then milroe.
if buchner and Simpson are neck and neck and that’s who Rees is more comfortable with or he’s causing less mistakes then Simpson then I say give him a shot. I would rather a Buchner Simpson battle this weekend and possibly ole miss. I think we should just accept that milroe can not run this offense. If that can’t happen tho we should give Buchner a good shot this weekend cause I think he could do better then milroe.

 

[Bamabuzzard]

If he was at UCF or TCU then he would be a very good quarterback. Here he is not


I think Simpson is about to transfer soon. It’s a gut feeling with some things coming out of his side of it and the fact that he was having to beat out two guys who have experience that no one really wanted outside of Alabama.

I think had either Buchner never came or Buchner transferred for spring training then Milroe is probably not the quarterback. The real issue is that Buchner has strengths that Simpson doesn’t and vise versa so there is less of a separation than Buchner and Simpson amongst the staff.

Is Simpson "struggling" that much? I mean the guy is obviously physically talented but good lord, some of the stuff coming out of camp, whether it was from you, or other people I know who have some access, all somewhat said the same thing. I'm just shocked

 

[81usaf92]

Is Simpson "struggling" that much? I mean the guy is obviously physically talented but good lord, some of the stuff coming out of camp, whether it was from you, or other people I know who have some access, all somewhat said the same thing. I'm just shocked

He was great going against the 1st string defense in the last scrimmage. But in the spring he just tried to hit the deep ball like Milroe did but was not looking for reads over the homer.

I had heard it from a guy who works around them every day saying if Simpson ignored Milroe’s arm talent and just focused on reads then he would have had the job exiting spring.

 

[Evil Crimson Dragon]

This is a key point. There's a lot of talk about QB's who "win the team" and if you're claiming that Saban did not necessarily start the QB who he felt gave him the best chance to win but instead went with the QB who teammates had a great rapport with then we have a serious problem. A coach cannot let players decide who starts and who doesn't.

Precisely...............the Coach is the head of the team and leader. Letting players run the show is a good way to get an early December bowl

 

[Evil Crimson Dragon]

As a man on the street with absolutely no inside information on practice performances I have difficulty understanding why Ty Simpson hasn't received any meaningful snaps in blow out games when Bryce was in late in the 3rd quarter. He is a prototype QB in terms of size, throwing motion and and ability to avoid the rush. It appears to me that the cards and attitudes are stacked against him at Bama for whatever reason and the heir apparent is headed here this spring. With the addition of Buchner he will be forced to leave in the spring to 1 of 100 schools who would be highly interested.

There are those who have said on here if he decides that let him go! I would point out that Bama has lost over 40 players to the portal the last 2 years after spending aprox. $ 2.5 million per year on recruiting and untold millions on facilities and Sayin has not taken a snap at UA.

That is the one thing about Saban I have never understood.............put them in and let them get experience, and not waste away on the sidelines. You put all the practice snaps on one QB, and he goes down, then you have a potential disaster and confidence broken QB

 

[NoNC4Tubs]

As a man on the street with absolutely no inside information on practice performances I have difficulty understanding why Ty Simpson hasn't received any meaningful snaps in blow out games when Bryce was in late in the 3rd quarter.

Because Milroe was the backup qb...?