obama just stated his support for same sex marriage

[Bama4Ever831]

This isn't, strictly speaking, true.

Most folks forget the Bible Belt isn't a good representation of the country as a whole.

 

[MattinBama]

I guess Obama taking a stand against his own position finally came to a head.

http://www.theonion.com/articles/obama-blasts-obamas-evasive-stance-on-gay-marriage,28146/

Obama Blasts Obama's Evasive Stance On Gay Marriage
'The President Needs To Come Clean On His Views,' Obama Says

WASHINGTON—President Barack Obama lashed out at President Barack Obama's seemingly evasive stance on gay marriage Tuesday, calling the head-of-state's cagey position on the issue both "cowardly" and "an example of failed leadership."

Speaking to reporters from the White House East Room, Obama said that he has had enough of the president's endless hedging on same-sex marriage and that, as president of the United States, he can't just sit back and take a passive position on what he called the "most important civil rights issue of our time."

"President Obama's inability to simply state whether he's for or against gay marriage is unacceptable," Obama said during a spirited 30-minute address in which he sharply criticized the president for failing time and again to articulate his beliefs. "This nonsense where he says his views are 'evolving' isn't going to cut it anymore. It's patronizing and it's wrong."

"Mr. President," the president continued, "I am waiting for your answer. We all are."

Yesterday's speech comes on the heels of Vice President Joe Biden's recent announcement in support of same-sex marriage, an announcement Obama praised Tuesday, saying he was pleased "someone in the Obama administration was finally brave enough to take a clear-cut stand."

 

[mikes12]

I know it's apples and oranges to an extent, but my personal feelings toward the whole 'gay marriage' debate is summed up in the last few lines of this clip.

For the record, I think it should be legal, as well as polygamy (as weird as that is, some cultures/religions do believe in it and practice it), as long as these matters are decided between consenting adults. It is not the business of the state to recognize what constitutes a family in a free country. One of the founding principles was religious freedom. I am a Christian myself, but my faith does not require faith from/of others. I know plenty of heterosexual unions that I doubt are sanctified by God, but that's between them and God. At least gay couples will not 'accidentally' produce children they will neglect physically, emotionally, or financially.

We as Christians often talk a good game about sanctity of marriage, but in practice, have done a .... poor job of living it. That isn't gay peoples fault. Go into any church. You'll find divorced people all throughout. You'll find churches are often silent on the issue, even afraid to bring it up, knowing they have some couples on the verge of divorce. Jesus said something about removing the plank from your eye before worrying about the speck in your neighbor's.

 

[bama_wayne1]

Most folks forget the Bible Belt isn't a good representation of the country as a whole.

To date 30 states have banned gay marriage.

 

[92tide]

To date 30 states have banned gay marriage.

i think those that oppose gay marriage have a huge advantage on the organizing and GOTV front when it comes to the ballot initiatives.

 

[Tide1986]

If this is what loses the election for him, America deserves a swift kick in the nuts.

You're just being intolerant and bigoted.

 

[banjeaux]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6_1Pw1xm9U

 

[gmart74]

Hey I agree. I'm just saying I don't necessarily believe it's a political ploy.

lol, and here i thought my cynicism couldn't get much higher.
http://freebeacon.com/gay-for-pay/

resident Obama announced his support for same-sex marriage less than 48 hours after the Washington Post reported that prominent political donors were threatening to withhold donations over the president’s position on gay rights.
A number of gay and progressive donors, unsolicited, have indicated to us that they aren’t considering requests to donate to the Obama SuperPac because of the president’s refusal to the sign the order. And those are high-dollar asks, some in the seven digits. We have heard from at least half a dozen major gay and progressive donors that they stand united with us.

 

[TideEngineer08]

lol, and here i thought my cynicism couldn't get much higher.
http://freebeacon.com/gay-for-pay/

Uh, well, there you go.

 

[G-VilleTider]

Where we messed up was giving the wimmenz the right to vote and own property. Its been all downhill since sigh

 

[Bodhisattva]

Anything to distract from his disastrous economic policies.

 

[CajunCrimson]

Most folks forget the Bible Belt isn't a good representation of the country as a whole.

Yeah that California is right in the middle of the Bible Belt -- yet it lost there too....

And also -- keep in mind that having someone poll you and ask you your opinion of Gay Marriage is a whole lot different than a closed voting booth --

People that are against it but don't want to appear to be bigotted will tell a pollster what they want to hear.

 

[CajunCrimson]

And also -- keep in mind that having someone poll you and ask you your opinion of Gay Marriage.

I figured I'd go ahead and beat RV and Riz to the obvious double entendre here! lol

 

[gamersfuel]

why is this just now newsworthy. he said this years ago when running for Senate. doesnt really bother me since so many people are going to have different opinions. Some will be upset about the comments. others will agree. politics

 

[cbi1972]

Yeah that California is right in the middle of the Bible Belt -- yet it lost there too....

And also -- keep in mind that having someone poll you and ask you your opinion of Gay Marriage is a whole lot different than a closed voting booth --

People that are against it but don't want to appear to be bigotted will tell a pollster what they want to hear.

This goes both ways. Some people privately don't care, but publicly fall in line with what their church tells them they should believe.

 

[G-VilleTider]

Wouldn't it be a lot easier if the government got out of recognizing "marriages" as a whole? Allow the various religious institutions to recognize whatever they want to define as "marriage". In terms of governmental benefits and such (All the legal issues that are awarded a spouse), recognize a civil union or whatever else you want to call it.

Very well said. I feel the same way. Along that line of reasoning, I have a question for those more learned than I. With the whole separation of church and state thing, can it be legally argued that the government should ONLY recognize civil unions/partnerships whatever and leave the marriages to the churches? When I got married, my church required pre-marriage counseling but the state only required a donation.

 

[CajunCrimson]

Very well said. I feel the same way. Along that line of reasoning, I have a question for those more learned than I. With the whole separation of church and state thing, can it be legally argued that the government should ONLY recognize civil unions/partnerships whatever and leave the marriages to the churches? When I got married, my church required pre-marriage counseling but the state only required a donation.

Separation of Church and State has nothing to do with this --- it only means that there will not be a Government Sponsored Church

It's like the "right to privacy" -- they've both evolved into something not originally intended......

 

[bamanut_aj]

With that out of the way, can we get back to matter at hand? The tanking of our economy?

And I agree, they oughta be allowed to be miserable like the rest of us.

 

[2003TIDE]

If this is what loses the election for him, America deserves a swift kick in the Truck Nutz.

FIFY

 

[ValuJet]

I find the new moniker for "gay marriage" floated out there by the mainstream media fascinating as it's targeted to likely voters:

"Marriage equality"

I guess like "fair share" we need to get used to that one.