OC and DC replacement discussion

crimsonaudio

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I usually agree with you, but not on this. The offense's inability to RUN THE BALL, and move the chains is why defense looked as bad as it did this season. We won a national title in one of those 4 seasons, almost won another in a second too, so it wasn't that bad dude.

Why would we offer the guy 2 million to stay, you don't offer two million dollars to try a retain a guy unless you really want him to stay.
I get complimentary football, but come on - the offense didn't give up 52 to UTK. The offense didn't allow LSU to own the 4th quarter.

I do understand complimentary football, but if you can actually watch the performance of the defense for the last few years and think it's not the problem, I guess we shouldn't even discuss it further. You may as well telling me the sky is red - my eyes tell me otherwise.

Again, I agree that the offense left the D on an island multiple times in games - it's not ALL Gol*ings fault - but the numbers are pretty obvious when you look at what Gol*ing has "achieved" vs his predecessors. So is the game play.
 

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I get complimentary football, but come on - the offense didn't give up 52 to UTK. The offense didn't allow LSU to own the 4th quarter.
Go back and watch the game, Tennessee doesn't have 200 mins of offensive ball time if we run our offense effectively, we lost minutes on the field turning the ball over on third downs and not MOVING the chains. Offense has to run the ball, chew the clock up. I can envision without re-watching that sh!tastic game our offense starting at the 10-20 three or four times and THROWING PASSES every time, failing to capture a first down, just to punt the ball back to Tenn and give our D a short field. How do you expect the DC to shoulder the blame?

I just don't see this change as big of a W as you guys do, it would be better if paired with a new OC imo. At least until they announce his replacement.
 
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So, I admit I didn't think Golding was gone... but it happened. Now that he's gone... and we're likely to poach a certain coach from a team that won national championship.... I can't help but notice that Saban made another hire that went unnoticed.

Sources: Fast-rising Armstrong, one of college football's top young defensive coaches, on verge of major Power-5 opportunity - Footballscoop

this kid is legit. Way better than Golding. Pair him with Schumann or Leonhard or Pruitt... and this is a legit Defensive staff. We'll likely to see different looks on defense with some familarity we haven't seen in ages: Physicality
 

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I get complimentary football, but come on - the offense didn't give up 52 to UTK. The offense didn't allow LSU to own the 4th quarter.

I do understand complimentary football, but if you can actually watch the performance of the defense for the last few years and think it's not the problem, I guess we shouldn't even discuss it further. You may as well telling me the sky is red - my eyes tell me otherwise.

Again, I agree that the offense left the D on an island multiple times in games - it's not ALL Gol*ings fault - but the numbers are pretty obvious when you look at what Gol*ing has "achieved" vs his predecessors. So is the game play.
Let’s also add giving up over 300 rushing yards and 27 points to a one dimensional Auburn team.
No it wasn’t all Gol*ing’s fault. But truthfully it is probably the best thing for him and Alabama both. Pete gets to be his own “man” out from under Saban’s wing and Alabama get a fresh start on that side of the ball.
 

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Pruitt won't be hired at any SEC school next year. Waiting on NCAA ? Here's the facts:

There is a gentlemen’s agreement between Sankey and the AD’s. It’s a holdover from Mike Slive’s time. Here it is:

No SEC school will hire a coach who got another SEC program on probation – as long as that other school remains on probation. For cases that are unfinished like UT's – but are likely to result in probation - the rule remains the same. It goes for all sports – not just football. Pruitt won’t be coaching in the SEC next year – whether at Bama or anywhere else. The only way he might coach at Bama is if the NCAA rules on UT’s case and doesn’t place them on probation. That takes forever.

The idea that the NCAA might "clear him" while the UT case remains open is a joke. It isn't going to happen folks - not this year and likely never.
Let's hope this proves to be wrong. Do you think Slive or Sankey would abide by a handshake if they wanted to do something.
 

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Go back and watch the game, Tennessee doesn't have 200 mins of offensive ball time if we run our offense effectively, we lost minutes on the field turning the ball over on third downs and not MOVING the chains. Offense has to run the ball, chew the clock up. I can envision without re-watching that sh!tastic game our offense starting at the 10-20 three or four times and THROWING PASSES every time, failing to capture a first down, just to punt the ball back to Tenn and give our D a short field. How do you expect the DC to shoulder the blame?

I just don't see this change as big of a W as you guys do, it would be better if paired with a new OC imo. At least until they announce his replacement.
Bama possessed the ball 37:29 to UTenn's 22:31. 83 plays to 70. I agree they needed more run plays, but heck that's good TOP advantage. And they couldn't run. 3.7 yards per rush. With the defense leaking like a sieve, any OC is going to do what is working best to try to match points, knowing they are gonna need them.
 
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at the end of the day PG was a scapegoat for BOB, PG's personal issues didn't help his situation, but I've seen enough from PG to know he's good enough to get the job done. BOB is completely inept. We won't get better next year if we have the same guy calling offense. It's that simple.
BoB had nothing to do with Tennessee gaining 7000 yards and scoring ninety-eleven points on us.

LSU was not stopped a single time in our game after halftime.

Zach Calzone torched us over and over last year in College Station and despite getting a second chance with a different team, he has done NOTHING since that game.

There are so many other examples during the last 5 seasons.

BOTH coordinators needed to be replaced.
 

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BoB had nothing to do with Tennessee gaining 7000 yards and scoring ninety-eleven points on us.

LSU was not stopped a single time in our game after halftime.

Zach Calzone torched us over and over last year in College Station and despite getting a second chance with a different team, he has done NOTHING since that game.

There are so many other examples during the last 5 seasons.

BOTH coordinators needed to be replaced.
we literally won a national title with PG as DC and almost won a second if we didnt lose both 1,000 yard receivers to injuries we beat UGA Last year. No body was calling for PG's head like they are now back then now were they, you know what is different? BOB. I like how everyone so comfortable pinning both of those losses on the DC instead of the offense, it's actually comical.

You right about that, but one needed to be replaced more than one we get to replace.
 

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In a perfect world Saban hires Pruitt or Schumann to be DC and coach ILB’s and Leornard becomes Safety’s Coach with maybe a Co-DC title. I know it’s not happening but would be awesome given his success as a DB’s coach.

Add Bo Davis as D-Line and move Roach over to coach OLB’s where he coached at Ole Miss.
Forget about Davis.
 

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Go back and watch the game, Tennessee doesn't have 200 mins of offensive ball time if we run our offense effectively, we lost minutes on the field turning the ball over on third downs and not MOVING the chains. Offense has to run the ball, chew the clock up. I can envision without re-watching that sh!tastic game our offense starting at the 10-20 three or four times and THROWING PASSES every time, failing to capture a first down, just to punt the ball back to Tenn and give our D a short field. How do you expect the DC to shoulder the blame?

I just don't see this change as big of a W as you guys do, it would be better if paired with a new OC imo. At least until they announce his replacement.
From the beginning to the end of that game, and throughout Petey G's career at Bama, I've never seen more wide open receivers running loose on our defense than any DC we've ever had under Saban. Specifically the UT game, from the opening whistle until their game winning drive, Hooker had at least ONE wide open receiver running free just about every possession. That has nothing to do with the offense and is completely unacceptable. Getting caught in the wrong coverage was too frequent while Petey G was DC.
 

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I just don't see this change as big of a W as you guys do, it would be better if paired with a new OC imo.
LOL, it will be. BOB is gone.

It's unfathomable that someone could watch this team and not see the schematic and coaching issues on defense. I guess we all watch different things in game.
 

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BoB had nothing to do with Tennessee gaining 7000 yards and scoring ninety-eleven points on us.

LSU was not stopped a single time in our game after halftime.

Zach Calzone torched us over and over last year in College Station and despite getting a second chance with a different team, he has done NOTHING since that game.

There are so many other examples during the last 5 seasons.

BOTH coordinators needed to be replaced.
Had those a few times at Little Italy Pizza and Pints. On first glance you think they are pretty good. But after a while you just realize they just cheap knock off of really bad Texas Toast.
 

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we literally won a national title with PG as DC and almost won a second if we didnt lose both 1,000 yard receivers to injuries we beat UGA Last year. No body was calling for PG's head like they are now back then now were they, you know what is different? BOB. I like how everyone so comfortable pinning both of those losses on the DC instead of the offense, it's actually comical.
Bama won the title in 2020 despite Gold*ing (national rankings):
Scoring O: 2nd
Passing O: 3rd
Rushing O: 47th
Total O: 4th

Scoring D: 13th
Passing D: 70th
Rushing D: 17th
Total D: 32nd

Talk about comical - bringing up 2020 as an example of Gol*ing's ability, ignoring the fact that Bama won because Sark out-schemed defense left and right all year, making up for mediocre defensive play.

But yeah, Gol*ing was awesome.
 
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