Bama Game Thread: Official PostGame Thread - Bama @ FSU...

[Snuffy Smith]

Eight? I think you are being very optimistic. I think 7-5 is about right. We'll see.

That’s exactly where I see us unless we see some big turn arounds. Cane Womack defense seems unable to stop this style of QB & offense. We will see Auburn, Vandy, USCe all play this same game against us.

 

[bvandegraff]

I put in my airpods and listened to CTSN / Stewart & Watts. I highly recommend it.

That’s what I did too. Pretty low-energy from the booth, understandably. The disbelief and frustration in Tyler Watts’ voice was palpable.

 

[bamacpa]

We had a couple of defenders give what looked like less than max effort on FSU TD plays.

 

[Smoovee7]

But who do you replace Deboer with? I mean realistically who is available? I think this is the CFB gods leveling the playing field after Saban retired. Look at Nebraska they went on a run but havent won a natty since the late 90's.

 

[OconeeTide]

This was a great example of the new CFB landscape. First, it was a fool’s errand to predict a handy Bama victory in this game. With so many new players, new OC and DC who are quality coaches, and playing with 2023 as a background there was no way to know how good… or bad FSU might be. If we play them in the second game, we have a lot better guesses… but not in the opener. Now that their “book” is out, we’ll see how they do.

Second, the portal has made quality depth on teams almost impossible. In Saban’s CFB, the dropoff from a starting RB and NG to a second-stringer was negligible. I think today we saw that Jam and Keenan couldn’t be replaced - especially Keenan. Bad news on the horizon would be if Latham’s out too. It’s not just us, it’s everyone now. The pre-game injury report is a bigger factor today than it’s ever been to outcomes and teams simply can’t plug and play with consequences.

Finally, how a HC handles this type of thing differs. In the past, for instance, you stay with your QB1 and push forward - improving and getting better while trusting the “process”. Now, you don’t have that luxury. You better start asking “do we go with a younger QB with greater upside but more greater risk or stay with a QB that is slow to deliver the ball and doesn’t seem to throw a good deep ball?” How you answer that question either creates confidence in you or doubt… and if it’s doubt we’ll lose more games in this way this year. On a side note, I was extremely disappointed that we didn’t see a package for Russell. With his ability, you have to get him on the field each game.

I wasnt impressed with Ty, im no expert but it seemed like his throwing motion took forever for the ball to leave his hands. I didnt think he made alot of good decisions with the ball either.

 

[RammerJammer14]

Fire him at the end of the season. You cannot allow him to ruin this program for another year.
He is 9-5 at Alabama with 4 losses to unranked teams. Is that the Bama standard?
I had no aspirations that was the next great HC but this is abysmal.
The losses are bad enough but my lord we lost by multiple scores to UNRANKED teams.
Our DC is the LB coach and they have regressed and looked HORRIBLE.

The only correct answer is to clean house.

Until Clemson in the 2018 title game (Jan 2019) I don’t think Saban lost a single game by more than one score. Now we basically don’t have a chance to win by the end of the 3rd quarter quite frequently.

 

[JoelH]

Honestly my thinking on that is much more people than I thought a month ago.

 

[gtgilbert]

I have no clue what the DC is doing. 3 of the TDs happened due to us not having our 1's on the field. It was the same thing last year. It's like we rotate just to rotate and not in good situations.

TD #1, against TF Lee.

TD #2, ran to Red morgans side of the field and. surprise!, he took a bad angle.

Later, it wasn't a TD but it was a LONG pass that led directly to it, was when Mincy was in and had a bad read and the QB threw right past him.

We ran multiple series in a row with LB 41 in instead of one of the starters.

I'm all for getting guys some rest and others reps, but it seems we reach to deep doing that and it certainly is costing us points and big plays.


Other things we did last year, that we kept doing today even though they didn't work last year either and still don't appear to::

We were constantly running the D alignment with 3 guys down on the LOS, and the Wolf off ball, but inside one of the DL and were easily flanked in the run game since it narrows down our presence across the LOS, plus it's taking our best pass rushers out of role by having them rush more inside than out on the edge where they should have a quickness advantage.

We, very often, dropped the wolf into coverage even when they were on the LOS and blitzed an ILB. It's one thing to do this as a 'surprise', but we do it ALL THE TIME, without results. Again, taking the dudes who should be our best pass rushers and putting them into coverage out of role, but then rushing a guy like JJ who is really good in coverage but not so much of a rush guy.

It's just incoherent. I don't get it. It's not working.

 

[DzynKingRTR]

On the brightside if I cancel YouTube TV, I will save some money

 

[OconeeTide]

Until Clemson in the 2018 title game (Jan 2019) I don’t think Saban lost a single game by more than one score. Now we basically don’t have a chance to win by the end of the 3rd quarter quite frequently.

Its WILD seeing this happen at Alabama. I just cant get over how hes lost 4 games in embarassing fashion to unranked teams.
Its not a fluke anymore, Its a pattern.

 

[CB72]

FSU had 5 players average more than 3 yards per carry with 1 guy Danzy rushing only 3 times for 57 yards at 18.7 a pop.

 

[CB4]

Yeah, I predict a lot more hiking excursions Saturdays this fall.

I already had a hiking trip at Vicksburg planned for a Bama off week November 1st. Guess I can get in Kennesaw Mountain, Shiloh, and Chickamauga in as well and forget about the schedule.

 

[TDBama78]

After our 1st drive, a thing of beauty, we proceeded to move into a funk that lasted the rest of the game, we've done it in other games as well, world beaters 1st drive then mediocre at best, not a good trend.

 

[RammerJammer14]

I wasnt impressed with Ty, im no expert but it seemed like his throwing motion took forever for the ball to leave his hands. I didnt think he made alot of good decisions with the ball either.

I think he did “ok.” Was his first start and he was frequently running for his life with receivers dropping balls that hit their hands. He had a few bad passing (usually while scrambling) and his worst decision was not keeping it on that one long 3rd down. He did not force a turnover or, to my memory, come close to one on a bad decision.

He can definitely improve and I think he will, unless his confidence collapses.

 

[BAMARICH]

Bad play calling, bad execution! We looked unprepared and lost, just like last year!

I get the angst… I really do. However, how do put a solid game plan together when you have absolutely no idea where an opponent’s strengths or weaknesses are going to be? Not only did you have new players, but you have brand new coordinators too. You may have film on each player and each coach’s system… but you have NO idea how guys will fit in those schemes. The only thing you can hope to do is adjust during the game… but it becomes harder to do that when your best DL and best RB is on the bench.

The days of it being “what it used to be” at UA and anywhere else is over. It’s not just us - check out other teams like Texas today. The adjustment in the future will be that marque matchups in the first game will be history. I guarantee you we play FSU a better game in week 1 or 2… instead of today.

 

[Toddrn]

But who do you replace Deboer with? I mean realistically who is available? I think this is the CFB gods leveling the playing field after Saban retired. Look at Nebraska they went on a run but havent won a natty since the late 90's.

Just so you know "Natty" has been outlawed on this site.

 

[carder24]

I put in my airpods and listened to CTSN / Stewart & Watts. I highly recommend it.

Same

 

[RammerJammer14]

I have no clue what the DC is doing. 3 of the TDs happened due to us not having our 1's on the field. It was the same thing last year. It's like we rotate just to rotate and not in good situations.

TD #1, against TF Lee.

TD #2, ran to Red morgans side of the field and. surprise!, he took a bad angle.

Later, it wasn't a TD but it was a LONG pass that led directly to it, was when Mincy was in and had a bad read and the QB threw right past him.

We ran multiple series in a row with LB 41 in instead of one of the starters.

I'm all for getting guys some rest and others reps, but it seems we reach to deep doing that and it certainly is costing us points and big plays.


Other things we did last year, that we kept doing today even though they didn't work last year either and still don't appear to::

We were constantly running the D alignment with 3 guys down on the LOS, and the Wolf off ball, but inside one of the DL and were easily flanked in the run game since it narrows down our presence across the LOS, plus it's taking our best pass rushers out of role by having them rush more inside than out on the edge where they should have a quickness advantage.

We, very often, dropped the wolf into coverage even when they were on the LOS and blitzed an ILB. It's one thing to do this as a 'surprise', but we do it ALL THE TIME, without results. Again, taking the dudes who should be our best pass rushers and putting them into coverage out of role, but then rushing a guy like JJ who is really good in coverage but not so much of a rush guy.

It's just incoherent. I don't get it. It's not working.

Number Zero, whoever that is, certainly lived up to his chosen number. Was frequently slow and behind the play or getting beat. I preferred it when Saban banned that jersey number.

 

[Krymsonman]

Well, I'm of the opinion we have the most under-utilized talent in the country. There's been film on Malzahn's offense for years so we can't say we never saw it before. I think this coaching staff is just going thru the motions waiting for a big buy-out.

 

[bvandegraff]

Gus ate Wommack’s lunch with the mid 2010’s Auburn playbook. What am I to guess there’ll be no calls taken on the “Hey Coach” show this week?