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Re: Former Penn St. DC Jerry Sandusky arrested for numerous sexual assaults of minors

I don't understand your logic. McQueary actually saw a 10 year being sexually assaulted. He witnessed it as it happened. He could have physically ended that incident. He knew exactly how bad it was. Nobody else knew what kind of monster Sandusky was other than the janitor. Paterno knew something bad happened, but we don't know exactly what he knew. At most he didn't know as much as McQueary did. McQueary told his higher up and then did nothing, same as Paterno. Sure, Paterno had more power. That doesn't matter. McQueary could have stopped the assault and that boy would have been saved from at least a little more trauma. Instead the boy saw McQueary turn and run and left him alone with Sandusky. That's unforgiveable. Even if Paterno knew that Sandusky was molesting children (which we're not sure he did) and did nothing (which isn't true - he told his superiors) he should have an easier time sleeping than McQueary.

I agree with you that McQueary should have done much more than he did. I did not address McQueary's responsibility in that statement. I have said before on this board that I would have interviened physically if I had to, and called the police myself if I were the witness.

I am addresses Paterno's responsibility since McQueary came to him telling him he told his daddy, and they took no further action. Paterno reportedly was not told until the next day by McQueary. That is why I said phone Sandusky. At that point the responsibility is placed firmly on Paterno's shoulders. That is all I am saying. If your subordinate does not do the right thing then it is the boss, leader, mentor, head coach, etc's job to do the right thing.

I think McQueary should be fired along with Paterno and I have said that earlier on this board.
 
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Re: Former Penn St. DC Jerry Sandusky arrested for numerous sexual assaults of minors

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/03/jerry_sandusky_former_penn_sta.html


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mazing how much this thing was covered and mishandled over the years. I remember reading this article back in the spring and wondering how in the world these repeated incidents could go on without the college football world knowing. Seems like everyone in State College knew, even the current governor of PA.
 
Re: Former Penn St. DC Jerry Sandusky arrested for numerous sexual assaults of minors

Does anybody think that the NCAA Disociates themselves from PSU? As in not allowing them to compete in any NCAA events and not sanctioning any event they play/compete in? The more i type the more this starts to sound like the Death Penalty.

either ways I feel like PSU needs to clean house, the entire administration and staff needs to be replaced.
 
Re: Former Penn St. DC Jerry Sandusky arrested for numerous sexual assaults of minors

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/03/jerry_sandusky_former_penn_sta.html


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mazing how much this thing was covered and mishandled over the years. I remember reading this article back in the spring and wondering how in the world these repeated incidents could go on without the college football world knowing. Seems like everyone in State College knew, even the current governor of PA.

If this situation and thread gets much more disturbing, the readers may need some professional mental health counseling. ;)
 
Re: Former Penn St. DC Jerry Sandusky arrested for numerous sexual assaults of minors

If this situation and thread gets much more disturbing, the readers may need some professional mental health counseling. ;)
She's just posting to keep the thread to the top in hopes of this and get more money. :wink:
 
Re: Former Penn St. DC Jerry Sandusky arrested for numerous sexual assaults of minors

If this situation and thread gets much more disturbing, the readers may need some professional mental health counseling. ;)

It's completely and terribly sickening, we are not just talking about a disturbed individual who did something horrible. We are talking about someone who is a predator in every since of the word. One sick man who positioned himself to be in a position of power over kids who were weaker than average and probably had no support system at home, so as to not get caught. the depth of this man's cunning and predatory appetite is scary.

So as for summation, I think you are right. We are all at best less innocent.
 
Re: Former Penn St. DC Jerry Sandusky arrested for numerous sexual assaults of minors

She's just posting to keep the thread to the top in hopes of this and get more money. :wink:

I surprised she hasn't started a grief counseling thread for those grieving for the kids abused and those greiving for Paterno. ;)
 
Re: I am the only one for doesn't believe Joe Pa is an outstanding coach.

Heresy. The Stones run from 1965-1975 is the greatest decade any rock and roll has ever enjoyed.

Eh.. they've had 8 #1 hits over a 50 year period, by comparison, The Beatles had 20 #1 hits over an 8 year period.

The Stones were good, they've got some songs that are all-time greats, but they're so highly regarded because they've lasted as long as they have.

Urban Meyer had a better career in a shorter time than Joe Paterno, but few would ever call Meyer one of the all-time greats.
 
Re: Former Penn St. DC Jerry Sandusky arrested for numerous sexual assaults of minors

It's completely and terribly sickening, we are not just talking about a disturbed individual who did something horrible. We are talking about someone who is a predator in every since of the word. One sick man who positioned himself to be in a position of power over kids who were weaker than average and probably had no support system at home, so as to not get caught. the depth of this man's cunning and predatory appetite is scary.

So as for summation, I think you are right. We are all at best less innocent.

It really is a Conspiracy of Cowards as ESPN basketball analyst Jay Bilas said. I myself will add dispicable to the conspiracy of cowards. This is a dispicable conspiracy of cowards.

http://www.sportsgrid.com/ncaa-football/jay-bilas-penn-state/
 
Re: Penn State Officials Reportedly Planning Paterno's Exit

This situation is sick beyond belief. I am saddened that we have animals in society that abuse innocent children that often scars them for life.
As others have stated, if I had witnessed the incident in the showers, I would have confronted Sandusky immediately and put a stop to it. But, I do understand why or how he chose to avoid a conflict. He saw a powerful and highly respected man in the showers with the child and he was only a GA. He had a decision to make; he chose to aviod conflict and report it to Paterno.

Paterno, at this point, already knew about Sandusky's abuse of children. Years earlier, he had reported such to his AD; the decision was to avoid any involvement with law enforcement and to isolate the university from a potential scandal. So, their hands were bound when the GA came forward. Their decision years earlier to keep silent would be discovered if they went to the police with the GA's latest revelations. Instead, they suddenly decided to give the GA a promotion in exchange for his silence. Sad, sad.

you are so right on! What is amazing is that ESPN has been giving this wall to wall coverage ever since the firing, yet they have never mentioned or reported what you stated in your second paragraph. To listen to them you would think that Paterno never knew any thing until the GA told him about the incident in the shower.

This is just lousy reporting by ESPN.
 
Re: Penn State Officials Reportedly Planning Paterno's Exit

I give credit to the BoT at PSU with this. Time and time again we see actions of malice that are not dealt with in such a swift manner and usually drag the outcome out longer than needed when we already knew the outcome. There was no hesitation and everyone that should be held accountable was removed from the equation immediately. Unlike other times when people said they did not know or how to proceed, this time their ignorance of not knowing or not doing will not suffice. The fact is they should have known and should have done something.
 
Re: Penn State Officials Reportedly Planning Paterno's Exit

http://www.collegian.psu.edu/ they have a timeline on the frontpage

fwiw i work with a bunch of psu guys. one said a few of the janitors saw sandusky molesting kids as well. also Mike McQueary is generally thought to be a slimeball as well by the locals.

The incident with the janitor is covered in the indictment. That child is identified as Victim 8 and the incident is described in great detail.
 
Re: I am the only one for doesn't believe Joe Pa is an outstanding coach.

Eh.. they've had 8 #1 hits over a 50 year period, by comparison, The Beatles had 20 #1 hits over an 8 year period.

The Stones were good, they've got some songs that are all-time greats, but they're so highly regarded because they've lasted as long as they have.

Urban Meyer had a better career in a shorter time than Joe Paterno, but few would ever call Meyer one of the all-time greats.
Urban Meyer invented Joe Paterno.
 
Re: Former Penn St. DC Jerry Sandusky arrested for numerous sexual assaults of minors

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/03/jerry_sandusky_former_penn_sta.html


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mazing how much this thing was covered and mishandled over the years. I remember reading this article back in the spring and wondering how in the world these repeated incidents could go on without the college football world knowing. Seems like everyone in State College knew, even the current governor of PA.

The current gov was the AG when the investigation that finally succeeded in bringing charges started. I don't know what he might have known before it got kicked off

On a more interesting note, he also personally attended the BoT meeting where they were unanimous in deciding to fire Paterno when initial signs seemed to indicate he would get to finish the season. Something changed their minds. I've seen speculation that the gov/former AG might have warned them things could get even uglier.
 
Re: Penn State Officials Reportedly Planning Paterno's Exit

http://www.collegian.psu.edu/ they have a timeline on the frontpage

fwiw i work with a bunch of psu guys. one said a few of the janitors saw sandusky molesting kids as well. also Mike McQueary is generally thought to be a slimeball as well by the locals.

The BoT just said they do not want him on the sidelines.
 
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