It's not a Catch-22. It's not a double-edged sword. The move is to go for it on 4th and 1 at the 38. If we had pinned them deep when we punted, held them, received the ball back and scored a TD to win the game, it would've still been the wrong move to punt. It wasn't even that tough of a decision.
Ok, who stole Shula's Cahones????
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No.....The point is you go for it make it or not! If you do not make it you are not a dumb coach just a coach with confidence in your team. The only sin is not to try,not to fail to try.I would bet 90% of the time in that situation the other SEC teams coach would go for it....also it was more like 1 1/2 foot not A FULL YARD. i WAS UPSET AT THE TIME OF THE CALL...NOT THE RESULT! I WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN UPSET IF WE FAILED TO MAKE IT. I just wish we would have tried. I still think we had other problems that can be coached ie holding on and face mask flags on the punt return team. Also fielding punts inside the 10,not calling fair catches etc.jmo
drjamesm
No.....The point is you go for it make it or not! If you do not make it you are not a dumb coach just a coach with confidence in your team. The only sin is not to try,not to fail to try.I would bet 90% of the time in that situation the other SEC teams coach would go for it....also it was more like 1 1/2 foot not A FULL YARD. i WAS UPSET AT THE TIME OF THE CALL...NOT THE RESULT! I WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN UPSET IF WE FAILED TO MAKE IT. I just wish we would have tried. I still think we had other problems that can be coached ie holding on and face mask flags on the punt return team. Also fielding punts inside the 10,not calling fair catches etc.jmo
drjamesm
Saint Duece
I agree with you here. We played for field position one time too many.
This is something the staff will have to learn from, and hopefully they will.
Do you remember last year when we played Oklahoma? We were playing pretty good defense and had just held Oklahoma to a three and out. It was fourth down. Bob Stoops was on the road and the momentum was changing slightly to our favor. We were on all out punt block...Bob Stoops took a chance on the road (they were only leading by a field goal) and called a fake punt. They got the first down and called deep sideline pass play on first down and scored the game winning go ahead TD.
I wanted to show how critical a call that was, and how you have to make those calls on the road. Especially when (as in Alabama's case Saturday) the other team cannot stop your running game. We were running at will and I know we would have made fourth and a half yard.
Game changing call? Momentum changing call? On the road and running at will. This was the call for Leron and Tim, or a toss sweep to Hudson. We will need to make those kinds of calls in the future. My point is...you play to win, instead of playing not to lose.
I agree with you here. We played for field position one time too many.
This is something the staff will have to learn from, and hopefully they will.
Do you remember last year when we played Oklahoma? We were playing pretty good defense and had just held Oklahoma to a three and out. It was fourth down. Bob Stoops was on the road and the momentum was changing slightly to our favor. We were on all out punt block...Bob Stoops took a chance on the road (they were only leading by a field goal) and called a fake punt. They got the first down and called deep sideline pass play on first down and scored the game winning go ahead TD.
I wanted to show how critical a call that was, and how you have to make those calls on the road. Especially when (as in Alabama's case Saturday) the other team cannot stop your running game. We were running at will and I know we would have made fourth and a half yard.
Game changing call? Momentum changing call? On the road and running at will. This was the call for Leron and Tim, or a toss sweep to Hudson. We will need to make those kinds of calls in the future. My point is...you play to win, instead of playing not to lose.
The turning point in the game WAS NOT 4th and 1. It was the 6+ minute drive by Arkansas in the fourth quarter.
Punting on 4th and 1 wasn't a bad call. It was the call some of you didn't want called. If Hudson hadn't slipped on 3rd down, it wouldn't be an issue. If the punt had been downed inside the 5 it wouldn't be an issue. But I CAN GUARANTEE it would be an issue if Coach Shula had gone for it and NOT MADE the first down.
Punting on 4th and 1 wasn't a bad call. It was the call some of you didn't want called. If Hudson hadn't slipped on 3rd down, it wouldn't be an issue. If the punt had been downed inside the 5 it wouldn't be an issue. But I CAN GUARANTEE it would be an issue if Coach Shula had gone for it and NOT MADE the first down.
We head 3 coaches with Head Coaching Experinece, Kines, Raider, and Woods, they should have the experience to know when to go for it, not something they have to learn.
I agree with others," If we are going to lose, let's try try to win."
Let's go down trying, not playing Vanilla.
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I agree with others," If we are going to lose, let's try try to win."
Let's go down trying, not playing Vanilla.
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jfd
my point exactly.......However,I'm sick about this,b/c it makes me wonder about things down the road!
drjamesm
my point exactly.......However,I'm sick about this,b/c it makes me wonder about things down the road!
drjamesm
I believe this horse is rotting. Let's stop beating it and concentrate on the 'cocks.
BTW, there is no guarantee that we get the first down, get a score, or don't make another mistake. It's the mistakes that cost the game.
BTW, there is no guarantee that we get the first down, get a score, or don't make another mistake. It's the mistakes that cost the game.
People still to this day question Mark Richt's play calling
People still to this day question Jimbo Fisher's play calling
People back in the day questioned Steve freakin Spurrier's play calling
The coach is never right when it doesn't work and expected to call it when it does.
People still to this day question Jimbo Fisher's play calling
People back in the day questioned Steve freakin Spurrier's play calling
The coach is never right when it doesn't work and expected to call it when it does.
Shula's cahones
Saint Deuces' post is agood one.If we are to do well thius year,we need a good passing attack.The punt on fourthand one was areal bad call.Behind in the 4th quarter,the ball in enemy territory and one yard for a first down.Not to go for it makes no sense at all.
Saint Deuces' post is agood one.If we are to do well thius year,we need a good passing attack.The punt on fourthand one was areal bad call.Behind in the 4th quarter,the ball in enemy territory and one yard for a first down.Not to go for it makes no sense at all.
So I guess you had to move this topic to another olace because it's bad or something. Give me a break.
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