The BCS is merely doing what the NCAA failed to do when they split Div I into D1A and D1AA. Teams like Utah and Boise should prove they belong by sustained performance and fan backing, not just for a few good years. Say they get into a BCS conference, and have a few down years, does fan support drop into the 20,000's for home games? Is this really BCS worthy? I said it before, having a few good years and beating a few teams from the BCS conferences does not make a bcs team.
Only major conferences should be part of BCS
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Strength of schedule, anyone?
Consulting the CBS sports page, I found that Utah's strangth of schedule ranking is 57 while yours is 63. The team that should be dissapointed about being stuck with a sub-par bowl opponenent instead of playing for the national championship is not the Tide. How do you think Wyoming would do in the mighty SEC?
Consulting the CBS sports page, I found that Utah's strangth of schedule ranking is 57 while yours is 63. The team that should be dissapointed about being stuck with a sub-par bowl opponenent instead of playing for the national championship is not the Tide. How do you think Wyoming would do in the mighty SEC?
When the Utes got in in 2004 it was not under the current system.
OK. Donate allof your BCS money that you will get this year to charities then to make it even. Oh yeah, and all of the BCS money that you have recieved since its inception.
And what does this have to do with the topic at hand???
As well you should. Refer to the previous post asking "have we become elitists."
I like that. Utah and BYU to the PAC-10 and Notre Damned to the Big 10+1 so all the conferences have a championship game.
The members of Div 1 have the money that funds almost everything. If they pull out of the NCAA together (and they would over this much $$$), they no longer need the NCAA. It would be the end of the NCAA, and they know it...
Do you think that these presidents are going to hand over billions of dollars?
Absolutely not. Which is why we aren't going to have a playoff any time soon because the NCAA will have their grubby little paws all over it.
And now we're back to your and my original opinions.
LOL - that is circular logic...Absolutely not. Which is why we aren't going to have a playoff any time soon because the NCAA will have their grubby little paws all over it.
And now we're back to your and my original opinions.
The more logical train of thought, considering where all of the power sits, would be:
1) Div 1 schools (or whatever they are called this year) decide to institute a playoff
2) NCAA tries to interject themselves into the process
3) Div 1 schools threaten to pull out of NCAA
4) NCAA shuts its mouth and goes back to its corner, wimpering
5) Div 1 schools implement a playoff, sans NCAA interference
Here's where the discussion pro-BCS discussion breaks down for me. Utah fans are not trying to argue that we are among the elite programs like Texas, Florida, Alabama, etc. But we are much better than a large majority of the schools who do have access to the same benefits and annual bowl profits that the elite teams have.
What has Baylor done to be considered a BCS team? Syracuse? Let's not forget Vanderbilt. Washington? Northwestern? Come on, do you see why Utah fans hate the BCS system so much.
Utah has been invited to the BCS twice now. Neither invite has come because of the relaxed auto-qualify rule for non-BCS teams (like Boise State and Hawaii). Both invites were garnered by being in the top 6 in the nation.
We'd also like the shot at a title in years we could win one. If Utah were given the chance to play in the title game in 2004 I think it is likely we'd have a banner hanging. We just don't have that opportunity. Winning a scampionship is not a one year quest as it is for so many BCS teams. Utah would have to put together several undefeated seasons in a row, convincingly. That is not an easy thing for any program to do.
I think that you miss his point. Had the general need to make all people equal not been applied to college football, there would still only be a handful of programs competing for MNCs every year. Schools like Bama might have 150 of the best athletes in the country under scholarship at one time. Now that total cannot be any higher than 85. Why? Because it was not "fair" that all of the best athletes wanted to go to schools like Bama, so the NCAA changed the rules.
IMO, it was a good change, but many disagree...
Tokolosh - if you can't beat them, join them. That would solve a lot of problems if Boise STate and Utah join the Pac-10 then they could be divided into two divisions and have a championship game like the big boy conferences have. Without a championship game, Bama would most certainly have been in the BCS NC Championship game instead of Florida.
The PAC-10 isn't inviting us. If that option were on the table Utah would be in the PAC-10 in a heartbeat.
FWIW, Boise State will not be invited to the PAC-10. When it comes to elitists the PAC-10 takes the cake. They will not invite a school that doesn't fit the academic and research frame of the conference. Boise State brings nothing more than football success and that will not cut it for the PAC-10.
Re: Strength of schedule, anyone?
Consulting the CBS sports page, I found that Utah's strength of schedule ranking is 57 while yours is 63. The team that should be disappointed about being stuck with a sub-par bowl opponent instead of playing for the national championship is not the Tide. How do you think Wyoming would do in the mighty SEC?[/quote
Strength of Schedule- Alabama-58 Utah-70 U.S.A. Today
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbt08.htmhttp://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbt08.htm
Strength of Schedule- Alabama-50 Utah-79 Football Frontier
http://www.solecismic.com/frontier/sos9.phphttp://www.solecismic.com/frontier/sos9.php
These two links say otherwise. Please post a link to the CBS sports page with the Ala-63 Utah-57 information, I can't seem to find the page in question (not being rude just want all the facts). And for being sub-par, neither Utah or Alabama should feel disappointed by their bowl opponent, if disappointing is what you want, look no further than this years Orange Bowl match up.
And for the BCS argument in question, I like Utah and hope they can continue their success and one day be in a BCS conference, or that a playoff replaces the BCS and gives the non-BCS conferences a shot at the title.
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