Patrick Murphy leaves Bama for LSU

[SavannahDare]

What do yall think about Habetz as the replacement?

She's gone with him to LSU.

Oh, well. I wish him well. I can't feel negatively towards him, considering the excellent program he built for us. Here's hoping we're able to bring in someone equally competent who will eventually be able to go all the way.

 

[ElephanTideis]

She's gone with him to LSU.

Oh, well. I wish him well. I can't feel negatively towards him, considering the excellent program he built for us. Here's hoping we're able to bring in someone equally competent who will eventually be able to go all the way.

That's the plan for now, but do you think she would turn us down to stay at LSU as an assistant?

 

[Rama Jama]

Well I can't believe we wouldn't build the team an indoor hitting facility. That is absolutely pathetic.

Softball coach Murphy heads to LSU

What do yall think about Habetz as the replacement?

I don't know if you know the dynamic between the 2 of them. Suffice it to say they are a matched set. He will go wherever she goes.

 

[ElephanTideis]

I don't know if you know the dynamic between the 2 of them. Suffice it to say they are a matched set. He will go wherever she goes.

Well then he can come be her assistant :biggrin2:

 

[TidePride50]

That is just plain asinine! Pat Murphy and Alyson Habetz consistently brought this team to the elite levels of the sport. Before them Alabama softball and southern softball, as a whole, was a complete joke.

To quote the article on RollTide.com...

"In his 13 seasons at Alabama, Murphy amassed a 712-210 overall record and a 287-86 mark in league contests while guiding the Crimson Tide to seven WCWS, seven SEC championships (four tournament and three regular season) and a postseason berth every season. Alabama won 50 or more games nine times under Murphy, including each of his last seven seasons with the Crimson Tide.

And his bio, not including this fantastic year...

After 12 seasons as head coach, Patrick Murphy has achieved unbelievable success:

• SixCollege World Series appearances (2000, 2003, 2005, 2006, 2008 and 2009)
• 12 straight NCAA Tournament app. (2010, 2009, 2008, 2007, 2006, 2005, 2004, 2003, 2002, 2001, 2000, 1999)
• TwoSEC Championships (2006, 2010)
• Three SEC Tournament Championships (2003, 2005, 2010)
• Two-time SEC Coach of the Year (2006, 2010)
• Most wins in school history (632)
• Best winning % in school history (.771)
• Most wins in a season in school history (66)
• Most wins in the country-66 (2000)
• Six Consecutive 50+ Win Seasons (2010, 2009, 2008, 2007, 2006, 2005)
• Consecutive Top-10 ranking (2010, 2009, 2008, 2007, 2006, 2005, 2001, 2000)
• Six-time South Region Coaching Staff of the Year (2000, 2003, 2006, 2008 and 2009)
• 31NFCA All-Americans
• 30 Easton All-Americans
• 44 All-South Region Selections
• 60All-SEC Selections
• Most SEC wins in a season in UA history (25)
• Seven Academic All-Americans
• 10 Academic All-District Selections
• 77 Academic All-SEC Selections
• Nine NCAA Regional All-Tournament team selections
• Five World Series All-Tournament team selection
• 47 SEC Player of the Week selections
• Youngest coach in SEC history to reach 100 wins
• One of 12 finalists for the 2004 United States Olympic team head coaching position
• Coached 2001 team to school record 27-0 start and No. 3 national ranking
• Hitting coach for Canadian National Team in 2004 Olympics
• Assistant Coach for Team USA in Summer of 2009
• Assistant Coach for USA Junior National Team in 2010

There are very few IF ANY coaches or teams, outside the Pac 10, that even come close to those numbers. Even within the Pac 10, I guarantee he will be in the to 5 all time.

That's all well and good, but the bottom line is his teams couldn't get it done on the big stage. He did a great job of building the program, but he never could get us over the hump.

 

[Rama Jama]

That's all well and good, but the bottom line is his teams couldn't get it done on the big stage. He did a great job of building the program, but he never could get us over the hump.

I always felt it was a matter of time before we won a championship with Coach Murphy. He always had a competitive team and we had some bad breaks along the way. Unless we make a splash with our next hire, we may be in for some lean years. Lets hope not. Mal needs to hire the right person for this job.

RTR

 

[ALA2262]

That's all well and good, but the bottom line is his teams couldn't get it done on the big stage. He did a great job of building the program, but he never could get us over the hump.

IMO it is more like what the rest of the country is experiencing with SEC football now. There are several good teams and coaches out there but they are just not on the level of the SEC. Same with softball and the Pac 10.

 

[Krymsonman]

Murphy has his reasons for going to LSU. I think I know what they are and it has nothing to do with money or with him thinking LSU is a better fit. I don't like it one bit that it is LSU but IMO it is one of the few jobs he would even consider. With that said I also think it may be a bad decision but I will always respect his coaching ability and what he did for Alabama softball and for southern softball in general.

BTW, He is not a Canuck, as far as I know he was born in Waterloo Iowa. I have met his family and if they were Canadians they sure aren't anymore.

I would love to know the reasons behind this move as it makes absolutely no sense to me. He's not from Louisiana, never coached at LSU, and this looks like a move down, not up in my opinion. Did he just not feel appreciated or something like that? I would love to know the insiders view. Krymsonman

 

[ALA2262]

I would love to know the reasons behind this move as it makes absolutely no sense to me. He's not from Louisiana, never coached at LSU, and this looks like a move down, not up in my opinion. Did he just not feel appreciated or something like that? I would love to know the insiders view. Krymsonman

Not an insider, but:

If they wanted to keep him, he should already have been making as much as LSU was willing to pay. That is probably the way he looked at it also. If they wanted to keep him, they should have built him an indoor practice facility instead of him having to go raise the funds to do so himself. That is probably the biggest reason he left.

 

[Vinny]

Not an insider, but:

If they wanted to keep him, he should already have been making as much as LSU was willing to pay. That is probably the way he looked at it also. If they wanted to keep him, they should have built him an indoor practice facility instead of him having to go raise the funds to do so himself. That is probably the biggest reason he left.

How ironic was it the yesterday espnu had a repeat of LSU softball all access. They sure do have some nice things over there that Bama didn't have. LSU is getting a good catch as their next head coach.

 

[ALA2262]

How ironic was it the yesterday espnu had a repeat of LSU softball all access. They sure do have some nice things over there that Bama didn't have. LSU is getting a good catch as their next head coach.

Vinny, here we are in a different thread talking about the same thing. Before CNS was hired, most everyone was saying that Bama would not pay a HC more than 2.5-3M. I said that I thought Bama would pay whatever it took to get whomever they wanted. If I had known then what I know now, I would not have made that statement.

 

[CrimsonBleedRed]

I'm glad that we are at the stage of emotional explosion over the state of Alabama softball. It means Patrick Murphy made Bama softball relevent, so I thank him for his contributions. While I do not like the fact that he went to LSU, I do think this is the kind of kick in the butt Bama softball needs to get over that hump. If they get the right hire, I suspect you will see Bama back in the World Series next year, and CPM will be chatting up the "Swamp People" with the World Series on his tv.

 

[ReturnToGlory]

That is just plain asinine! -- Bamaball2001

You could've left this out. However, you made good points that followed. Make the points without the rhetoric. It will always be a debate amongst fans, but I judge teams on whether they win national championships. It is great to win the conference and make it there, but out of 7 times, is it not legitimate to question why we haven't won a national title yet? That's the reason when I saw the news I was not upset. Maybe the person that comes in here can win the title.

 

[bamafxst]

Well, now we know why he wasn't overly upset with our implosion vs UF. I was disturbed by his lack of passion. He didn't even seem upset. I guess now we know why - he was already emotionally out of it.

You believe that?


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[Rama Jama]

It is pretty simple really. Mal could have supported a sport that was bringing dollars and growing or he treat them like an afterthought. The fact is Mal could care less about womens sports in general. I've never even seen him show up at the WCWS and for that matter I've never seen him at a game at all. All Mal cares about is football, period. The only reason he did anything in basketball was he was forced to by the fans.

As far as Murphy, he was continually made to feel like a a second class citizen in the landscape of athletics. Everyone wants to be appreciated. It is pretty clear that in atheltic dept, softball and Murphy himself were not a priority. I believe even the brickyard had to built by money Murphy raised himself.

Now we will have to pay what Murphy got at LSU or more to maintain our place on the national softball stage. Thanks Mal!

 

[bamanut_aj]

It is pretty simple really. Mal could have supported a sport that was bringing dollars and growing or he treat them like an afterthought. The fact is Mal could care less about womens sports in general. I've never even seen him show up at the WCWS and for that matter I've never seen him at a game at all. All Mal cares about is football, period. The only reason he did anything in basketball was he was forced to by the fans.

As far as Murphy, he was continually made to feel like a a second class citizen in the landscape of athletics. Everyone wants to be appreciated. It is pretty clear that in atheltic dept, softball and Murphy himself were not a priority. I believe even the brickyard had to built by money Murphy raised himself.

Now we will have to pay what Murphy got at LSU or more to maintain our place on the national softball stage. Thanks Mal!

of all the posts in this thread, I like this one best. CMM hasn't had to address CSP because she was here when he took over. Who knows what will happen if she ever decides to leave. I"m with you. Mal cares about football and basketball, kinda. Everything else can take care of itself, I guess.

 

[4Q Basket Case]

Sad story by Tommy Deas on TideSports today. Basically says that Murphy would have stayed if he'd felt appreciated.

Also got a raise of 60%+, from $140K to $225K. Deas says we matched it, but LSU showed him the love, whereas we didn't. At least, not until it was too late.

TideSports.com - Murphy's departure leaves fans wondering what's next

LSU rubbed our face in it a bit, saying that Murphy is a superstar in the softball world, and should be compensated and treated like one. Smack talk though that may be, it stings because it's true.

This one hurts, mainly because it could so easily have been avoided.

 

[CrimsonBleedRed]

Sad story by Tommy Deas on TideSports today. Basically says that Murphy would have stayed if he'd felt appreciated.

Also got a raise of 60%+, from $140K to $225K. Deas says we matched it, but LSU showed him the love, whereas we didn't. At least, not until it was too late.

TideSports.com - Murphy's departure leaves fans wondering what's next

LSU rubbed our face in it a bit, saying that Murphy is a superstar in the softball world, and should be compensated and treated like one. Smack talk though that may be, it stings because it's true.

This one hurts, mainly because it could so easily have been avoided.

They get Patrick Murphy, we got Nick Saban. I say Bama still has the braggin' rights over LSU.

 

[red55]

It is pretty simple really. Mal could have supported a sport that was bringing dollars and growing or he treat them like an afterthought. The fact is Mal could care less about womens sports in general. I've never even seen him show up at the WCWS and for that matter I've never seen him at a game at all. All Mal cares about is football, period. The only reason he did anything in basketball was he was forced to by the fans.

I think this is the perception at LSU. LSU was going for a top coach and were kind of surprised that Murphy was available. Apparently his agent has been busy. LSU recently hired UCLA head women's basketball coach by emphasizing how friendly LSU is to womens and minor sports. LSU has 42 non-football NCAA championships (which is a lot, Bama has 5 for comparison). Rightly or wrongly, there exists an impression that Bama is a "only football matters" kind of place.

Sometimes the only way for a minor-sport coach to get a raise is to move around. LSU just built a brand-spanking-new softball stadium with an indoor batting facility and was looking for a top coach. The former coach was a mentor to Murphy so he knew the LSU program well and knew the softball coach had the ear of the AD.

LSU lost its track coach a few years ago for similar reasons. Pat Henry had won 20 national championships in mens and womens track at LSU but had to watch Skip Bertman's baseball program get more acclaim and more money with only 5 championships. And then when Skip became AD and hired Pokey CHatman to coach womens basketball at twice Henry's salary . . . he got steamed and left to Texas A&M. And he built that program into the best in the country within a couple of years.

Pay equity is a tough job for any AD to manage. And I suppose the ego's are hard to manage as well. Top coaches in all sports are very marketable and sometimes they get happy feet.

 

[SavannahDare]

You believe that?

I don't make a habit of saying things I don't really believe. Based on what I watched on tv, he seemed dispassionate about how his team was collapsing. My opinion. Makes sense to me knowing that he already knew the deal he had in the works.

I don't feel badly towards the man. He did great things for our program and I wish him well at LSU.