Political ramifications for Trump assassination attempt part II

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Assuming you disagree, are you suggesting Harris was not a DEI selection?

Or are you suggesting that despite her being one, there's no chance someone more qualified was overlooked didn't fit the profile?
I simply said you are entitled to your opinion. I did not ask you to defend. I indicated no intent for me to defend the choice.

You called it a specific term, DEI hire, and you can see it that way.

So, yay for opinions!
 
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Assuming you disagree, are you suggesting Harris was not a DEI selection?

Or are you suggesting that despite her being one, there's no chance someone more qualified was overlooked didn't fit the profile?
Maybe Biden picked her because he felt that she was the best choice as a running mate. There are an assortment of factors that might qualify one for that position, including race and/or gender.

Do you think that JD Vance was the most qualified to be Trump's VP?

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Kamala Harris is a DEI 'hire'. Whether or not she is qualified is debatable (I believe she is), but she was chosen by purposely excluding a large portion of the population simply based on her sex and race.

That doesn't mean she was a bad choice, she might have been the absolute best choice. But it also means that she might have been the 10th best choice. Or the 100th. But due to the racist, sexist policy, no one that wasn't a female of color ever had a shot.

That's why DEI sucks.
I'm pretty sure Biden was specific about his gender/race parameters for VP and Supreme Court. Only certain people need apply.
 

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Maybe Biden picked her because he felt that she was the best choice as a running mate. There are an assortment of factors that might qualify one for that position, including race and/or gender.

Do you think that JD Vance was the most qualified to be Trump's VP?

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I think the one ironic thing about Vance and Kamala is that they were probably two of the harshest critics of their running mates but all of the sudden they are singing their praises when a VP position is being dangled over their heads. Granted Kamala never called Biden “Hitler” but she did basically insinuate that he stood by while busing was being opposed by the States.

 

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Maybe Biden picked her because he felt that she was the best choice as a running mate. There are an assortment of factors that might qualify one for that position, including race and/or gender.
She may have been the best choice, I've said as much, but he made it very clear he was ignoring at least half of the potential candidates based on DEI qualifications:

Do you think that JD Vance was the most qualified to be Trump's VP?
No Idea, I don't know anything about Vance. But Trump never said he was only looking for a 'male candidate' or similar - the uproar if he had would have been incredible (as it should have been for Biden).
 

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Assuming you disagree, are you suggesting Harris was not a DEI selection?

Or are you suggesting that despite her being one, there's no chance someone more qualified was overlooked didn't fit the profile?
It was a political choice, made for political reasons.

Moreover, it is a single position. There is a difference in selecting a woman of color for a single open position and selecting 50 white people for 50 open positions.
 

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Moreover, it is a single position. There is a difference in selecting a woman of color for a single open position and selecting 50 white people for 50 open positions.
Only as a matter of scale. If it's not based purely on merit, it shouldn't be the choice.

If there were two equal candidates and you chose one due to skin color, sex, etc - no problem. But to set out choosing based on that is as wrong as denying service based on those same qualities.
 
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For a couple hundred years, woman and minorities were dismissed out of hand as possibilities for high offices. Stating that it's about time that qualified people from those groups should finally be chosen isn't something to be ridiculed. If Sandra Day O'Conner and Kamala Harris weren't as qualified as any male, then critics would have a point. Those milestones should be celebrated rather than demeaned. No more-deserving white male was left out when those choices were made.
 

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She wasn't close to my first choice (neither was Biden, for that matter), but there's no doubt that she was qualified for the position.
Eh, I don't see her as that qualified. She's flip flopped on issues like most every politician. Her communication skills are terrible. Most politicians are whores. Some more so than others.
 

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All of this makes the assumption that there is a Nick Saban type who is obviously the best for the job. I’ve hired many people and the pool of talent is limited so there may be an obvious choice. When searching nation wide, there should be multiple highly qualified candidates. If this is the case, take the candidate from the under represented group to gain an insight into their perspective. I haven’t seen anyone arguing to take someone less qualified for the position.
 

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All of this makes the assumption that there is a Nick Saban type who is obviously the best for the job. I’ve hired many people and the pool of talent is limited so there may be an obvious choice. When searching nation wide, there should be multiple highly qualified candidates. If this is the case, take the candidate from the under represented group to gain an insight into their perspective.
Does insight into their perspective make them a better (more valuable) employee? I can certainly see that, among qualified candidates, you go with the one that is the best personality fit for the office. You have to spend 8+ hours a day with this person, so you want to be able to enjoy his/her company.

I haven’t seen anyone arguing to take someone less qualified for the position.
It is very typical in higher education, in government hiring, and in some corporate hiring.
 

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