BREAKING President Trump's address to joint session of Congress, March 4, 2025

[Its On A Slab]

Been some good postings on the thread. Thank you all for participating, no matter where you stand, politically.

I just want to share an opinion about the Democrats behaviour last night. Lumping them all together until I see any exceptions, which I'm not aware of at this juncture.

Considering the clobbering they just received in the general election...it's my opinion they missed out on an opportunity last night to demonstrate to the country (and world) they are a changed party.

IMHO, there were opportunities for them to provide applause and approval for various segments the POTUS shared with us.

So why not do just that? Go against the traditional partisan attitude. When they go low...we go high.

I don't really see a downside to this.....but I do see an upside.

We have a dedicated thread in this forum concerning the DNC with many examples of how they just don't get it - and some exceptions.

Aside from the overall optics....from a political vantage point......the majority of the country's voters told the Democrats they want change from the past.

Looking ahead to the mid-terms and next general.....IMHO they have a lot of work to do. They really could have turned things around on the GOP last night - but alas we saw what we saw......same old same old.....

Just one of many positive stories:

I turned the speech off just about the time that he spent 10 + minutes reeling off cuts in programs that would probably be found to be false, misleading, wrong, or just made up(as many of DOGE's wins have been shown). If Democrats were supposed to cheer, give them something to cheer about instead of his usual narcissism and bloviation. I didn't hear a whole lot except for the usual red meat for MAGA, bragging about stuff he hasn't really done, or things he will never do.

 

[Tidewater]

Yeah, FL takes in more in tourism taxes annually than the state of Tennessee takes in total tax revenue annually.

They're discussing removing property taxes in FL now. Yes, taxes have to be paid but when you gain so much from tourism dollars it yields a lot of flexibility.

But Iowa has the Field of Dreams, Winterset (John Wayne's birth place) and this:

I will not post the detail of the small figure at the base in front of the monument, but you can google it.

 

[Bazza]

I turned the speech off just about the time that he spent 10 + minutes reeling off cuts in programs that would probably be found to be false, misleading, wrong, or just made up(as many of DOGE's wins have been shown). If Democrats were supposed to cheer, give them something to cheer about instead of his usual narcissism and bloviation. I didn't hear a whole lot except for the usual red meat for MAGA.

OK thanks.

I wouldn't worry about it. Like I said to @Bamaro - this address was probably not intended for someone with your mindset, nothing personal.

Back to the point I was trying to make......here's a segment that could have been appreciated by the Dems...but apparently wasn't.

Trump signed an executive order renaming a wildlife refuge for Jocelyn Nungaray, who prosecutors say was killed by two Venezuelan men in the country illegally. Nungaray’s was in the audience Tuesday as Trump gave his address.

 

[crimsonaudio]

I turned the speech off just about the time that he spent 10 + minutes reeling off cuts in programs that would probably be found to be false, misleading, wrong, or just made up(as many of DOGE's wins have been shown). If Democrats were supposed to cheer, give them something to cheer about instead of his usual narcissism and bloviation. I didn't hear a whole lot except for the usual red meat for MAGA, bragging about stuff he hasn't really done, or things he will never do.

I've read that the dems sat while:
- a 13 year old boy with cancer who dreamed of a career in law enforcement was granted a Secret Service badge,
- the family of Laken Riley was honored, and
- the family of Corey Comperatore was honored

There might have been more, I didn't watch.

But apparently the dems' TDS made them look petty and hateful.

 

[Bazza]

Democrats have been mercilessly mocked for protesting President Trump’s address to Congress with paddles — with even left-leaning TV hosts among those roasting lawmakers for bringing “Brazilian steak house” and “bingo” vibes. NY Post reporter Georgia Worrell shares this story.

The Democratic lawmakers were trolled after showing up to the joint session of Congress Tuesday night brandishing the black signs — complete with phrases like “false” and “Musk Steals” — which they repeatedly flashed as Trump was delivering his speech.

But the stunt was widely ripped for falling flat — even among notoriously left-leaning MSNBC hosts and late night comedians.

 

[Bazza]

 

[CrimsonJazz]

Bu t apparently the dems' TDS made them look petty and hateful.

They played right into Trumps hands. One might say that it could be awhile before Dems recover from this crapshow, but the good news for them is that Americans have very short attention spans.

 

[AlexanderFan]

They played right into Trumps hands. One might say that it could be awhile before Dems recover from this crapshow, but the good news for them is that Americans have very short attention spans.

I thought for sure it would be four years of letting Trump trump, and then point to the freak show that he is come election time. If the dems keep up this pouting, essentially overshadowing Trump’s trumping, they could lose again in four years.

 

[Its On A Slab]

I've read that the dems sat while:
- a 13 year old boy with cancer who dreamed of a career in law enforcement was granted a Secret Service badge,
- the family of Laken Riley was honored, and
- the family of Corey Comperatore was honored

There might have been more, I didn't watch.

But apparently the dems' TDS made them look petty and hateful.

A guy walks up to you and sneers, "<Fornicate> you!", pushes you around, maybe spits in your face.

Using your logic, the proper response would be to say, "Thank you for doing such nice things."

 

[crimsonaudio]

A guy walks up to you and sneers, "<Fornicate> you!", pushes you around, maybe spits in your face.

Using your logic, the proper response would be to say, "Thank you for doing such nice things."

Lol, false equivalence is false.

C'mon, smh, you cannot be serious...

Or maybe you are - maybe the dems were just honoring their constituents?

 

[JDCrimson]

The Democrats tried to take the high road in Trump's 1st term. Apparently they don't think that worked to well for them going into this term. They want to mimic the way Republicans treated Obama but they are not pulling it off as well.

 

[mrusso]

The Dems are only doing what Repubs do...whatever will get them votes at election time. Their tried and true constituents will still support them and that will most likely be enough to get them re-elected.

 

[CrimsonJazz]

The Dems are only doing what Repubs do...whatever will get them votes at election time. Their tried and true constituents will still support them and that will most likely be enough to get them re-elected.

99% of the time, I absolutely agree. The thing is, the Dems are intentionally going straight to the wrong side of all 80/20 and 70/30 issues and a lot of people are noticing. Classical liberals like Bill Maher are screaming from the rooftops about this, but to little avail. Clinton-era Dems feel like the party is leaving them behind (because it is) and are either going independent or fully switching sides. Bill Clinton's politics and policies sound far more like Trump than Harris and while we'll never really know, I'm thinking a lot of these particular voters held their noses and voted for Trump (while totally lying about who they voted for.) That or they just stayed home on election day.

 

[AWRTR]

Democrats have been mercilessly mocked for protesting President Trump’s address to Congress with paddles — with even left-leaning TV hosts among those roasting lawmakers for bringing “Brazilian steak house” and “bingo” vibes. NY Post reporter Georgia Worrell shares this story.

The Democratic lawmakers were trolled after showing up to the joint session of Congress Tuesday night brandishing the black signs — complete with phrases like “false” and “Musk Steals” — which they repeatedly flashed as Trump was delivering his speech.

But the stunt was widely ripped for falling flat — even among notoriously left-leaning MSNBC hosts and late night comedians.

It looked like a Columbia University protest that would take place if a professor said he knew what a woman was.

 

[AWRTR]

I turned the speech off just about the time that he spent 10 + minutes reeling off cuts in programs that would probably be found to be false, misleading, wrong, or just made up(as many of DOGE's wins have been shown). If Democrats were supposed to cheer, give them something to cheer about instead of his usual narcissism and bloviation. I didn't hear a whole lot except for the usual red meat for MAGA, bragging about stuff he hasn't really done, or things he will never do.

They couldn't applaud a kid with cancer. Seriously what a group of clowns. They are incapable of reading the room.

Saw a poll on the speech breaking it down by Rep,, Dem, and independents. The Reps and Independents saw the speech positively the Dems didn't. No surprise there, but you need the independents to win. The viewership was majority Rep, but the independents that watched liked it. That's a problem for the Dems. They have to figure out the messaging or the midterms won't be good for them. The Senate is a tough pull and we have less and less purple House districts. If inflation is down to 2% by early 2026 Trump may keep the House.

Poll on Trump's 2025 joint address to Congress finds large majority of viewers approve

Here's how Donald Trump's 2025 joint address to Congress polled with Americans. A heavily GOP viewership called speech presidential, entertaining.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[selmaborntidefan]

The Democrats tried to take the high road in Trump's 1st term. Apparently they don't think that worked to well for them going into this term. They want to mimic the way Republicans treated Obama but they are not pulling it off as well.

What exactly - beyond "YOU LIE!" - did Republicans do during Obama's SOTU addresses? Granted - I have not watched a SOTU since Reagan's in 1982, although I did listen on the radio to Clinton's in 1995, because I was deployed to Gitmo and we had one radio channel (Armed Forces Network). So maybe something; I know the hens were cackling (Boebert and MTG) a couple of years back.

Part of their problem should be obvious to anyone watching: other than "we will die on the hill of boys turned into girls playing sports," they don't seem to be FOR much of anything. The governor of Maine is drawing a line in the sand on that issue while the governor of Wisconsin is having the laws rewritten to refer to mothers as "inseminated persons."

Why aren't any of them trying to insert Congress into the mix on tariffs? I know the answer to that one, too: tariffs are classic LIBERAL economics (pre-Keynesian), so they get to hide behind the fact Trump is all in favor of such disastrous things and smile the whole time. (If they're so opposed to them, why not one word when Biden extended the Trump tariffs? In the linked article, Biden insinuates his tariffs will create jobs...did that ironclad law miraculously flip over when Trump took office? Or was Biden just a lying politician?).

Here's what I can tell you RIGHT NOW Democrats are "for":
- abortions
- sex changes funded by taxpayers
- changing the names of things (inseminated person) while complaining about Rs changing the names of things
- Palestinians, hopefully at the expense of Jews/Israel
- aid to Ukraine (I'm largely with them on this by the way)

I mean, are they even "for" electric Teslas any longer because Musk?

You're not going to match Trump for hatred, and you shouldn't even want to do so. But I don't see a lot of winning economic issues up there in that list, either. What's funny is how often politics is playing along and smiling even when you want to kick someone in the knee. While I will grant Trump shamelessly used a 13-year-old cancer patient in a stunt, is it too much to applaud selectively?

Because if it is, this is a party in desperate need of a new leader.

 

[crimsonaudio]

What exactly - beyond "YOU LIE!" - did Republicans do during Obama's SOTU addresses?

Well, they stood and applauded Cory Remsburg when Obama highlighted him:

 

[crimsonaudio]

https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/04/politics/fact-check-trump-address-congress/index.html

President Donald Trump made numerous false and misleading claims in his Tuesday speech to a joint session of Congress. The falsehoods spanned a variety of topics, including the economy, climate, immigration and more.

Haha, CNN did a nice backpedal on this one:

 

[CrimsonJazz]

Haha, CNN did a nice backpedal on this one:

I’m genuinely surprised they bothered.

 

[Huckleberry]

Haha, CNN did a nice backpedal on this one:

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Trump said the government spent "$8 million for making mice transgender." As the statement showed, it was actually to gather information about breast cancer as well as a more effective HIV vaccine in humans undergoing hormone therapy. Why is that a problem?