Link: Reggie Bush must give deposition in lawsuit alleging he received improper benefits

[RT3413]

Totally not surprising. USC has VERY deep pockets and $300K is NOTHING for them to cough up... nor is it much for Reggie Bush to pay to avoid a deposition that might encroach on his image - basically it was about what he was paid for one game last season before endorsements and other incentives (e.g. super bowl).

I, for one, would only have been shocked if this had ever gone to an on-the-record deposition. I am sure Lloyd Lake knew this as well and was just willing to push it to the line.

In fact, fairly smart on RB's part. He's probably cost Lake $200K in legal costs by dragging it to this point and then putting forth a settlement.

 

[CapstoneTider]

We are going to witness USC having their latest dynasty period tossed out the window. 2 National Championships and a Heisman erased. I believe it.

The NCAA has to wait on these depositions that will make their case. I already believe they have information that coaches knew about all of this.

This is going to be great.

 

[TidePhin]

So when do you guys believe the NCAA will rule on this case?

 

[Redwood Forrest]

I have no confidence, faith nor belief that the NCAA will do the right thing. Still, public opinion may force their hand in this. Or, maybe not, after all, what do they care about public opinion? They are a monopoly.

If they wait until the end of July or early August to make public the slap on the wrist, it would only be a few days until Fall Practice begins and the talking heads would move on to the upcoming season.

 

[Lou_Holtz]

I wonder if Lame Kitten will stay there long enough to see S.Cal placed on probation? :conf3:

 

[TIDE-HSV]

I wonder if Lame Kitten will stay there long enough to see S.Cal placed on probation? :conf3:

IMO, no...

 

[TidePhin]

I wonder if Lame Kitten will stay there long enough to see S.Cal placed on probation? :conf3:

Where would he go?

 

[CapstoneTider]

Where would he go?

He has burned more bridges in 2 years than I have ever seen from anyone.

 

[mikes12]

Where would he go?

I could easily see him in the booth with Verne and Gary or on ESPN after his coaching days run out.

 

[Crimson Speed]

This has dragged on for too long. I want to see if the NAZIs will do the right thing and slam them. They had no problem doing it to us; we will see if they will be as harsh on them. We can argue the harshness of some penalties, but the real issue here is equality.

 

[Blood Red]

A barner friend of mine who know a member of the COI that they are so ....ed at USC that they will cut Bama's scholarships in half.I hope USC gets hammered because it seems like they were (are?) out of control and think they are untouchable. Thank goodness Kiffy was brought in to straighten out that mess.

Cut BAMA scholarships because of what's going on with USC?? Why? Just a word of advice, you never ever listen to anything a barner has to say about BAMA. They are just a bunch of jealous, pathetic, losers who will lie about anything that has to do with BAMA.

 

[BamaFossil]

This has dragged on for too long. I want to see if the NAZIs will do the right thing and slam them. They had no problem doing it to us; we will see if they will be as harsh on them. We can argue the harshness of some penalties, but the real issue here is equality.

I don't.

The desire to see another team go through what we went through is understandable. But to me, the bigger picture is the structure and rules of the NCAA itself. To bring about some IMO needed changes, I want the NCAA blatantly exposed for bias and old-boy connections. Best way for that to happen is for USC to get a pass.

As noted on another thread, Alabama's situation cannot be reversed, and that won't change regardless of what's done or not done to USC. In fact, one astute poster (sorry, I don't recall who) observed that if USC gets hammered, that could have a slightly negative effect on Alabama by causing athletes to go to competing SEC schools rather than to the left coast. He's right IMO.

So, with any luck, the NCAA Infractions Committee will mumble something about not having enough evidence to hit USC for lack of institutional control (yeah, I know...), then zap 'em with some vacated wins and a stern lecture.

 

[TidefaninOS]

I don't.

The desire to see another team go through what we went through is understandable. But to me, the bigger picture is the structure and rules of the NCAA itself. To bring about some IMO needed changes, I want the NCAA blatantly exposed for bias and old-boy connections. Best way for that to happen is for USC to get a pass.

As noted on another thread, Alabama's situation cannot be reversed, and that won't change regardless of what's done or not done to USC. In fact, one astute poster (sorry, I don't recall who) observed that if USC gets hammered, that could have a slightly negative effect on Alabama by causing athletes to go to competing SEC schools rather than to the left coast. He's right IMO.

So, with any luck, the NCAA Infractions Committee will mumble something about not having enough evidence to hit USC for lack of institutional control (yeah, I know...), then zap 'em with some vacated wins and a stern lecture.

I don't know - in my mind, the NZAA's bias was clearly exposed when they broke their own rules to stick it to Bama, despite not finding LOIC. So, I say go ahead and stick it to them good!:mad2:

 

[bayoutider]

I don't.

The desire to see another team go through what we went through is understandable. But to me, the bigger picture is the structure and rules of the NCAA itself. To bring about some IMO needed changes, I want the NCAA blatantly exposed for bias and old-boy connections. Best way for that to happen is for USC to get a pass.

As noted on another thread, Alabama's situation cannot be reversed, and that won't change regardless of what's done or not done to USC. In fact, one astute poster (sorry, I don't recall who) observed that if USC gets hammered, that could have a slightly negative effect on Alabama by causing athletes to go to competing SEC schools rather than to the left coast. He's right IMO.

So, with any luck, the NCAA Infractions Committee will mumble something about not having enough evidence to hit USC for lack of institutional control (yeah, I know...), then zap 'em with some vacated wins and a stern lecture.

Our text book scandal is just one more example of the NCAA continuing to hammer us while others get a slap on the wrist. Even Oklahoma got their sanctions reduced and they showed LOIC.

 

[NYBamaFan]

I see the NCAA as a playground bully, doing as he pleases. Until someone stands up to him, he is going to keep it up - but he is so powerful that no one is willing to take a chance. To make matters worse, his behavior is protected under the law.

This will not end until enough teams get fed up, but that won't happen until/unless the NCAA hammers other large programs.

Bama is on an island right now. No one feels sorry for us. In spite of the attention of the NCAA, we have risen back to the top.

I am torn - a part of me hopes that the NCAA hammers U$C, TN and a few other schools that seem to always slide so as to equal the playing field. But another part of me considers pulling for the NCAA like pulling for that playground bully - a hard thing to do, even when his enemy is my enemy. :conf3:

 

[Bama Reb]

Cut BAMA scholarships because of what's going on with USC?? Why? Just a word of advice, you never ever listen to anything a barner has to say about BAMA. They are just a bunch of jealous, pathetic, losers who will lie about anything that has to do with BAMA.

This is something that gets rehashed every time another school gets looked at by the NZaa. Someone comes up and makes a remark about Bama getting penalized because of it. I know they mean no harm and are trying to be facetious. But it's no longer funny, and is way past tired. JMHO

 

[CapitalTider]

But to me, the bigger picture is the structure and rules of the NCAA itself. To bring about some IMO needed changes, I want the NCAA blatantly exposed for bias and old-boy connections. Best way for that to happen is for USC to get a pass.

The problem with that is there is no guarantee that anything would happen if U$C were to get a pass. Frankly other big name programs with as much smoke as at U$C have gotten away with little or no sanctions and there was little to no public outcry. I think the opposite, let U$C and a few other big time programs get hammered like Alabama did and then maybe the university presidents, the real constituents of the NCAA might get fed up. I don't count on a fickle public to do anything, especially to an NCAA that does not answer to the public.

 

[eric1978]

The problem with that is there is no guarantee that anything would happen if U$C were to get a pass. Frankly other big name programs with as much smoke as at U$C have gotten away with little or no sanctions and there was little to no public outcry. I think the opposite, let U$C and a few other big time programs get hammered like Alabama did and then maybe the university presidents, the real constituents of the NCAA might get fed up. I don't count on a fickle public to do anything, especially to an NCAA that does not answer to the public.

Exactly.

 

[TNBama]

Well, its not happening after all. They just settled the lawsuit.
Report: Reggie Bush of USC and New Orleans Saints settles lawsuit, avoids deposition - ESPN Los Angeles

 

[BamaFossil]

I believe this... For those who want severe and lasting changes to the NCAA, the only game in town is for USC to get off light.

If for argument's sake we assume USC is hammered akin to what we received, school presidents can point to it as "evidence" the NCAA carries no bias. There will be no widespread institutional appetite for change. We're stuck.

When considering how the NCAA is viewed through the eyes of most member institutions, IMO two beliefs enter the equation...

1) If the NCAA sanctions a school, member institutions assume the school is guilty. The investigation is out of the public eye. Whatever the NCAA concludes is deemed gospel by everyone else. (Case-in-point: I doubt many non-Bama folks think Bama got shafted. Most think we deserved what we got.)

The belief that the NCAA gets it right leads folks to a second belief, which is...

2) Every school is watched equally by the NCAA. The fact that "my" school hasn't been bothered by the NCAA is "evidence" we're doing everything right.

Until these beliefs are shaken to the core, I see no changes to the NCAA structure.

Enter USC, stage left. USC presents a different situation. The Bush saga is well-known. There is widespread assumption of guilt based on published information about illegal (to NCAA) benefits. Therefore, this is one of the few cases where institution presidents believe they know what went down.

And this is precisely why it matters that USC gets a pass.

If that happened, eyes are opened. NCAA is perceived by schools as (newly?) biased and blatantly arbitrary. What's more, their school may be next. THIS is the catalyst that causes presidents to question whether NCAA is the right path for FBS institutions. And this is why I'm hoping USC gets little more than a stern lecture.
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