Nah, the SEC is a lot bigger than texas.
BREAKING Sec additions–Texas, Oklahoma inquire about joining SEC per report
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Ego's as big as Texas tend to do that...I hope the SEC people realize that they are probably doing a dance with the devil.!!
Oklahoma in the SEC could possibly be like Nebraska in the B1G. Florida, UGA, etc. beats them, so they do not make the playoffs. If it weren't for Texas athletes playing for Oklahoma, they would not be very good.
Personally, I am opposed to adding anymore teams to the SEC, especially if those teams are Texas and Oklahoma. Those two teams need to head to the PAC 12 and the remainder of the Big XII can be absorbed into some of the Group of 5 conferences. I would like to see Auburn moved to the SEC East and replaced by Missouri in the West. Wishful thinking I am sure.
This is the PERFECT picture of what is about to occur if ut is added to the SEC.
We started discussing the Texas A&M addition back when there was still talk of A&M leaving with Texas to join the Pac-12, huh?
Oh well... sorry about this, I think it's a boneheaded move.
It would be hilarious if after all of this hubub, they ended up going to the Pac 12 after all.
Texas and Oklahoma Reached Out To The SEC? How Would This Work?: Daily Cavalcade
Could Texas and Oklahoma really be thinking about moving to the SEC? It’s reportedly being discussed in a potential college sports shocker. College Football Daily Cavalcade: Texas and Oklahom…collegefootballnews.com
In interview posted on al.com, R. Bowen Loftin, former president of A&M who navigated their move to the SEC, stated at the end: "“Would you really want to go and add a state we already have a presence in or add a school from a state we don’t have a presence in?” he said. “It’d make much more sense to go eastward. Virginia Tech, UNC coming out of the ACC, that would have more sensibility from pure economics.”
That being said, there is more to this than just smoke...as hard as it is for me to believe...I may have to start drinking again...
That being said, there is more to this than just smoke...as hard as it is for me to believe...I may have to start drinking again...
It appears this got leaked yesterday by A&M. I can't say I blame them.
What we should do is only invite TCU and Okie State. Just for the laughs.
Well I think this is going to happen probably by 2023 Texas and Oklahoma are in. 1. Sec is the big dog on the porch, when your the pit bull on the porch to keep the poodles off you go after bigger dog's in the yard before any other porch comes after them 2. This is all about money when you can go from bout 44 million to 60 million revenue every university president will go for this (except for 3) i believe Alabama could use extra 16 million or so for Coleman renovations 3. This is the beginning of the super conferences, get the blue bloods first
Help me understand how Texas will destroy the SEC. I don't know how it was with the old Southwest conference, but in the Big 12 they get the biggest share (along with OU) IIRC.
But in the SEC, they'd just be as equal as the other 16 teams (if UT and OU) join. SEC sends out the same amount of money at the end of every year to every team. So how do they destroy the SEC?
BTW, I'm genuinely asking this question because I don't know how they would destroy the SEC if Alabama hasn't already because we got more "clout" than anybody in the conference.
But in the SEC, they'd just be as equal as the other 16 teams (if UT and OU) join. SEC sends out the same amount of money at the end of every year to every team. So how do they destroy the SEC?
BTW, I'm genuinely asking this question because I don't know how they would destroy the SEC if Alabama hasn't already because we got more "clout" than anybody in the conference.
Behind the scenes demands regarding scheduling, probably even the SEC Network, etc. Once they get a seat at the table, they will work to get to the head of the table, even to getting their person in as commissioner. It's almost impossible for us to understand the depth of their arrogance...for no apparent reason.
Oh wait...we've dealt with UGA and AU -- we know how to handle this!!!
I saw this reported and I have no idea what kind of crack is making people come up with this number. That's 256 million MORE PER YEAR! That's more than Texas' entire athletic department brings in annually, there's no kinda way this brings that kind of money.
The only way that anything like that is in the realm of possiblity if is it's entirely off of just renegotiating contracts. In which case, the SEC could add anyone and do that really. There's no kind of world where Texas and Oklahoma bring in 256 million more per year to the conference, that's nonsense.
Not only that, but unless the SEC made an absolutely horrible deal with ESPN, the latest deal should have already put them well past that 44 million number. Those are 2019 numbers, before the latest ESPN deal (which is supposed to be massive) was signed.
It's hard to believe that this has made it this far without the agreement of the real power brokers - the presidents. They are the only ones who matter. This is assuming that the Pres understands the pulse of his BOT who are especially interested in money. It's not guaranteed but to be consummated but there is likely a much better than 50% chance it will be. They have to have been involved for it to get to this point with agreement from enough to pass the invitations.
Basketball has almost nothing to do with any of this. I.e., no one is really interested in Kansas or the like. Even at Kentucky football monies dwarf basketball. Also, bb prowess is much more easily developed than football. Get the right coach and you can go from perennial doormat to champ in 2 or 3 years, e.g., AU.
Edit: Remember that no one cared about Kansas during the last iteration. They were terrified - the PACx didn't want them, the BIG10 didn't, they were looking like an orphan having to find refuge in the WAC or MWC.
Texas may be difficult to deal with in the SEC but it won't be like the SWC or B12: they would be the new boy and they will be dealing with Alabama, LSU, UGA, UF, etc., football powers (along with money the only power that really matters) that are their equals or better. They won't care if UTx takes their ball and goes home. (Doesn't mean the fans can't be especially arrogant and obnoxious.)
The power to regulate NIL resides with the conferences according to Emmert. IIUIC, the NCAA has been told by the Fed gov't that it cannot regulate in any way an athlete's earnings. He didn't capitulate in his statement but was simply acknowledging reality. But it appears the conferences can regulate NIL, though I guess no collusion is allowed between them.
Edit: Everyone keeps saying that the SEC gains nothing by adding Texas because it has the state via A&M. That's simply not true. There is far more interest in UTx in the state than A&M. Probably similar to Bama vs AU where the support for Alabama is approx 2.5 times that of AU. Do you not think that if AU was in the ACC, that the ACC would gain significantly if they were able to get Alabama to join? It's the same in Texas.
Basketball has almost nothing to do with any of this. I.e., no one is really interested in Kansas or the like. Even at Kentucky football monies dwarf basketball. Also, bb prowess is much more easily developed than football. Get the right coach and you can go from perennial doormat to champ in 2 or 3 years, e.g., AU.
Edit: Remember that no one cared about Kansas during the last iteration. They were terrified - the PACx didn't want them, the BIG10 didn't, they were looking like an orphan having to find refuge in the WAC or MWC.
Texas may be difficult to deal with in the SEC but it won't be like the SWC or B12: they would be the new boy and they will be dealing with Alabama, LSU, UGA, UF, etc., football powers (along with money the only power that really matters) that are their equals or better. They won't care if UTx takes their ball and goes home. (Doesn't mean the fans can't be especially arrogant and obnoxious.)
The power to regulate NIL resides with the conferences according to Emmert. IIUIC, the NCAA has been told by the Fed gov't that it cannot regulate in any way an athlete's earnings. He didn't capitulate in his statement but was simply acknowledging reality. But it appears the conferences can regulate NIL, though I guess no collusion is allowed between them.
Edit: Everyone keeps saying that the SEC gains nothing by adding Texas because it has the state via A&M. That's simply not true. There is far more interest in UTx in the state than A&M. Probably similar to Bama vs AU where the support for Alabama is approx 2.5 times that of AU. Do you not think that if AU was in the ACC, that the ACC would gain significantly if they were able to get Alabama to join? It's the same in Texas.
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This needs to be put in relative terms.
If looked at in isolation, the SEC could technically stand to gain something by adding Colorado. I mean people in Colorado watch football sometimes right? So more people sometimes watching football! So why not add them? I can give you a list of reasons why not...
Someone did the math and says basically that the SEC needs to add roughly 7 million in population per addition to keep with current payouts. I already explained this somewhat, but the SEC Network's payouts rates don't actually go up due to the addition of Texas, and Texas A&M already made the SECN a part of a lot of sports packages. It isn't that you don't gain anything, you gain a lot less than you would.
Basically A&M is most of the good with Texas without most the bad. Now it's redundant. Why not just add FSU? Why not add Georgia Tech? Let's double down in every state that the SEC isn't already doubled down in!
There are simply better targets out there. This is an ego driven move.
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