This is what I waited for???

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A month to prepare for a team that can't pass it's way out of a paper bag. Wide open recievers totally missed all game long... Where was the preparation for this middle of the road team that just beat the daylighs out of the Tide?!!! Today's performance was just sick!!!@ :frown:
 

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JPinSOCAL said:
A month to prepare for a team that can't pass it's way out of a paper bag. Wide open recievers totally missed all game long... Where was the preparation for this middle of the road team that just beat the daylighs out of the Tide?!!! Today's performance was just sick!!!@ :frown:
Spencer Pennington - 22/36 , 244yds , 1 TD , 0 int.
 

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14 incompletions...10 on third down. Two on 4th down. He got about 50 of those yards in the final minute of the first half, btw. No big throws made today...that's why he's a 3rd stringer....although he doesn't actually need to be playing d-1a football.
 

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No point in bashing...

Pennington. He does what he can. He's not good enough to take the team on his back and win as a passing QB. Our main problem today was an absolute lack of a creditable running attack. What's gone unnoticed this year is that our RBs got a lot of yards after contact. We no longer have anybody back there who can do that...
 

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Aaron Johns is a non-contact runner. He seems to flinch rather than running through whatever hole might be there. Those passing numbers are decent enough to win, but the misses came at critical junctures.

Someone needs to show Anthony Madison how to shed a block. #82 ate his lunch on those toss sweeps to his side.
 

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NashvilleTider said:
Aaron Johns is a non-contact runner. He seems to flinch rather than running through whatever hole might be there. Those passing numbers are decent enough to win, but the misses came at critical junctures.

Someone needs to show Anthony Madison how to shed a block. #82 ate his lunch on those toss sweeps to his side.
Madison intercepted a pass in the endzone and broke up at least 2 passes in the endzone that could have been TD's. But the Madison haters will always find something to gripe about.
 

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had a hard time adjusting to the fact that the refs were going to allow them to hold every play. Once we accepted that, we defended pretty well...
 

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TIDE-HSV said:
Pennington. He does what he can. He's not good enough to take the team on his back and win as a passing QB. Our main problem today was an absolute lack of a creditable running attack. What's gone unnoticed this year is that our RBs got a lot of yards after contact. We no longer have anybody back there who can do that...
Good point. My thoughts exactly. There's no sense and continuing to beat SP into the ground. I think it's been well established (by posters on here and by his play on the field) that he's simply not a good enough qb to carry a team via the pass. So the argument is moot.

Hey Tide, do you know why (with Johns the RB) that we never did try to get him out in space with running plays to the outside or to the corner, rather than continue to try to pound it between to the tackles?

My dad and I were sitting there watching running play after running play go up inside. Johns is suppose to have blazing speed and yet we never made an attempt in the running game to spread the defense wide and get him out in space.
 

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Good point. My thoughts exactly. There's no sense and continuing to beat SP into the ground. I think it's been well established (by posters on here and by his play on the field) that he's simply not a good enough qb to carry a team via the pass. So the argument is moot.

Hey Tide, do you know why (with Johns the RB) that we never did try to get him out in space with running plays to the outside or to the corner, rather than continue to try to pound it between to the tackles?

My dad and I were sitting there watching running play after running play go up inside. Johns is suppose to have blazing speed and yet we never made an attempt in the running game to spread the defense wide and get him out in space.
That puzzled me also. We simply had no running lanes open up inside. If Darby could have played, we would have won IMO.
 

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That puzzled me also. We simply had no running lanes open up inside. If Darby could have played, we would have won IMO.

I just didn't understand it either. I figured after it was well established that our offensive line wasn't getting any kind of push that Shula would have started moving Johns to the outside and force the defense to defend his speed and tackle him in space. Who knows, but I think it was hammered back home today that we are still in the "rebuilding" phase of Alabama Football. This Minnesota team wasn't as good as we made them look.
 

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Obviously, this year offered some very positive things about Alabama's program. There were also the negatives.

However, no one can argue that the negatives outweighed the positives. Alabama's program took a step in the right direction this year.

My question to everyone is, did this loss destroy that positive direction? Did it completely undo everything that this coaching staff worked so hard to put together this year?

My answer - absolutely not. The only regret I have about this afternoon's game is that this senior class did not win their final game. That is a shame, for they deserved much better. However, good fortune did not shine on Alabama this year. Now, we look to the future - and the future is indeed very bright. There's no doubt that the turnaround isn't yet complete. Much work is still to be done. But this coaching staff and this team that will be returning next year will continue the process towards rebuilding Alabama football into the program we all want it to be. I have no doubt.
 

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NashvilleTider said:
Aaron Johns is a non-contact runner. He seems to flinch rather than running through whatever hole might be there. Those passing numbers are decent enough to win, but the misses came at critical junctures.

Someone needs to show Anthony Madison how to shed a block. #82 ate his lunch on those toss sweeps to his side.
I am sorry, but if I saw those big bruisers coming at Me, I may will flinch too. :rolleyes:
 

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Bamabuzzard said:
I just didn't understand it either. I figured after it was well established that our offensive line wasn't getting any kind of push that Shula would have started moving Johns to the outside and force the defense to defend his speed and tackle him in space. Who knows, but I think it was hammered back home today that we are still in the "rebuilding" phase of Alabama Football. This Minnesota team wasn't as good as we made them look.
What we saw today on offense is not what we will see next season as starters. There were seniors, walking wounded, and substitutes. Those who played today probably played up to their ability. It's a dang shame that putting on a crimson jersey isn't the same as putting on a superman suit but we were simply outmanned.

Prothro was put under center once and they had to have been ready for that. Did we try more than one reverse? And I don't recall seeing any type of option play, sweep, etc. Seemed like all we tried was up the middle and it was like the running backs walked up to a wall and waited for it to fall on them.
 

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have no idea as to why we didn't try more wide stuff. AJ is not only too small for the middle - he's gun-shy. The razzle-dazzle plays seemed to show promise, but we never went back to them. I know the "O" didn't practice well all week, and it showed...
 

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Ok this thread has brought out alot of emotion in me. How can someone quote Pennington's stats like they were impressive is beyond me. I am sure he likes Alabama alot and tries hard but he shouldn't be the third string holder much less the third string quarterback. He is terrible. I thought Anthony Madison played his best game I have seen. He is like 5'8 170 and the receivers he was matched up on were huge. Madison is not in for his run stopping ability. I thought the defense played fine and Keith Brown and DJ Hall are gonna be fantastic.
 
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have no idea as to why we didn't try more wide stuff. AJ is not only too small for the middle - he's gun-shy. The razzle-dazzle plays seemed to show promise, but we never went back to them. I know the "O" didn't practice well all week, and it showed...
This is one aspect of Shula's coaching that I hope changes. No matter how many times Minnesota stuffed our between the tackle runs we kept running up the gut. Why? Why wasn't there any adjustments to the running game to try to get Johns outside and in open space where we could force Minnesota deal with his speed?

I hope this is just part of the learning curve for CMS. It just seems that ever since Brodie went down that our play calling went into hyper conservative mode. Almost like we were playing not to lose rather than to win.

Kind of like gambling with "scared money." You never win when gambling with "scared money". :biggrin2:
 

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it is really a matter of whether you agree with his particular taste in risk-taking. I disagreed with going for it on fourth and long. Failing to convert on that haunted us the rest of the game. Also, throwing from our own end zone was not particularly conservative. You're really talking about running play selection. They ran Hudson wide left consistently, but that's not where Darby can deliver - he lacks a half-step. Now that we're down to AJ, I think the problems at TE are probably most of the reason. Cavan is still limited and he's really it, when it comes to blocking TEs. Our only decent pulling OL is Martz. I think all that means that we can't live on the outside corner like UM did the first half. Their OL reminded me of fRan's on the sweep. Our OL is decent, but I don't think we have the athleticism to run the sweep as a bread and butter play. All that said, we could have used it as a change of pace more today...
 

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So what exaclty is the total number of Div 1A or SEC starts that anyone on this board has?

If he's 3rd string, he's 3rd string. Most of the time they only see PT during cleanup in a blowout.

To say he shouldnt be a D1A QB, or doesnt deserve a scholly is harsh, out of line, and totally uncalled for. Show some of that class ya'll are always spewing about.
 

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