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JDCrimson

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Griffen is not an NBA player and he knows it. He is trying to make as much as he can with his remaining eligibility.

BamaMoon said:
A little surprised. I think RG is a better player than some on the board thinks (think CNO knows his game better than he does) but I also don't think he's the type player that we can't probably find elsewhere too.
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JustNeedMe81

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imauafan said:
I'm a little disappointed in this but something tells me that RG values himself higher than CNO does in terms of pay. (I'm not going to call it NIL because it stopped being NIL a few years ago.) He is a prime example of someone that chased a higher paycheck but hurt himself in the long term because his development declined at KU. Maybe he will thrive in Bucky's system but he's going to a program with a first year coach who has been successful at lower level but unproven on a bigger stage. If he had stayed at Bama and continued to improve, IMHO he would be in a better long term position than he is currently.
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Who said anything about NIL pay..... It's not the only reason.
 
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cdub55

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BamaHoopsBoi said:
Rylo was one of my favorite players while he was here. Sad to see him not returning. I hope he does well but he really is interested in that NIL money.
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At the end of the day I have been critical in areas I probably should reflect on. Given the same opportunity at 18-23 years old (or even now as an older man), if someone would pay me the maximum amount to complete a job that I was interested in doing, I would take them up on that offer. The reality of all of this is that the system is broken and until a cap is set on what teams can pay, we can't fault the young men/women for chasing paper. Especially in the case of someone like RG where he is more than likely going to maximize his salary as a college hooper. He will have an opportunity to likely play overseas but will make much less than what he is garnering in the college game currently. Ask yourself this, if someone would pay you 1-2 million dollars to do the job you are doing right now, assuming you aren't already making that, would you leave your current job to do the same job? I think most of us would all give a resounding, "YES"! This is not a hit piece for "NIL", but just to put some perspective on things. As they say, "don't hate the player, hate the game".

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cdub55 said:
At the end of the day I have been critical in areas I probably should reflect on. Given the same opportunity at 18-23 years old (or even now as an older man), if someone would pay me the maximum amount to complete a job that I was interested in doing, I would take them up on that offer. The reality of all of this is that the system is broken and until a cap is set on what teams can pay, we can't fault the young men/women for chasing paper. Especially in the case of someone like RG where he is more than likely going to maximize his salary as a college hooper. He will have an opportunity to likely play overseas but will make much less than what he is garnering in the college game currently. Ask yourself this, if someone would pay you 1-2 million dollars to do the job you are doing right now, assuming you aren't already making that, would you leave your current job to do the same job? I think most of us would all give a resounding, "YES"! This is not a hit piece for "NIL", but just to put some perspective on things. As they say, "don't hate the player, hate the game".

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Could not agree with you more. I would 100 percent do the same thing. The system has to be tweaked, we need some rules to follow. I'm fine with grey area, but ALL of it is grey area at the moment.
 
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BAMARICH

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cdub55 said:
At the end of the day I have been critical in areas I probably should reflect on. Given the same opportunity at 18-23 years old (or even now as an older man), if someone would pay me the maximum amount to complete a job that I was interested in doing, I would take them up on that offer. The reality of all of this is that the system is broken and until a cap is set on what teams can pay, we can't fault the young men/women for chasing paper. Especially in the case of someone like RG where he is more than likely going to maximize his salary as a college hooper. He will have an opportunity to likely play overseas but will make much less than what he is garnering in the college game currently. Ask yourself this, if someone would pay you 1-2 million dollars to do the job you are doing right now, assuming you aren't already making that, would you leave your current job to do the same job? I think most of us would all give a resounding, "YES"! This is not a hit piece for "NIL", but just to put some perspective on things. As they say, "don't hate the player, hate the game".

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When Saban stepped down and Caleb Downs took the $$$ from OSU, the talk radio tandem of Christian Miller and his father (Corey) here on Tuscaloosa sports talk weighed in on it. Christian's take was along the lines of "I can't believe he turned his back on Bama and bolted for the $". His father, however, had a different take. He said had he been Caleb's father and OSU offered more money, he should immediately take it. When Christian pushed back with his reasoning, Corey's explanation was "that's a lot of money; you say 'he might have better pro chances if he stays at UA', but you don't know he's ever going to have that opportunity - he might suffer a career-ending injury that might nix a pro opportunity; as a father, I'd tell my son to get what he can right now because there's no guarantee of a future - that's the nature of sports." As much as I hate it, Corey Miller is right. Any father concerned for the well-being of his son, especially those from a disadvantaged background, would likely give this advice. How many years does it take any one of us to make 2 million dollars? Some kids can get that in one sports year. It's not the players... it's the system and we all agree it's totally broken!
 
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BAMARICH said:
When Saban stepped down and Caleb Downs took the $$$ from OSU, the talk radio tandem of Christian Miller and his father (Corey) here on Tuscaloosa sports talk weighed in on it. Christian's take was along the lines of "I can't believe he turned his back on Bama and bolted for the $". His father, however, had a different take. He said had he been Caleb's father and OSU offered more money, he should immediately take it. When Christian pushed back with his reasoning, Corey's explanation was "that's a lot of money; you say 'he might have better pro chances if he stays at UA', but you don't know he's ever going to have that opportunity - he might suffer a career-ending injury that might nix a pro opportunity; as a father, I'd tell my son to get what he can right now because there's no guarantee of a future - that's the nature of sports." As much as I hate it, Corey Miller is right. Any father concerned for the well-being of his son, especially those from a disadvantaged background, would likely give this advice. How many years does it take any one of us to make 2 million dollars? Some kids can get that in one sports year. It's not the players... it's the system and we all agree it's totally broken!
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Dad should have mentioned the name Tyrone Prothro and ended the discussion...
 
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CrimsonTitles

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BAMARICH said:
When Saban stepped down and Caleb Downs took the $$$ from OSU, the talk radio tandem of Christian Miller and his father (Corey) here on Tuscaloosa sports talk weighed in on it. Christian's take was along the lines of "I can't believe he turned his back on Bama and bolted for the $". His father, however, had a different take. He said had he been Caleb's father and OSU offered more money, he should immediately take it. When Christian pushed back with his reasoning, Corey's explanation was "that's a lot of money; you say 'he might have better pro chances if he stays at UA', but you don't know he's ever going to have that opportunity - he might suffer a career-ending injury that might nix a pro opportunity; as a father, I'd tell my son to get what he can right now because there's no guarantee of a future - that's the nature of sports." As much as I hate it, Corey Miller is right. Any father concerned for the well-being of his son, especially those from a disadvantaged background, would likely give this advice. How many years does it take any one of us to make 2 million dollars? Some kids can get that in one sports year. It's not the players... it's the system and we all agree it's totally broken!
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But it's not like we were just paying Downs pennies. Yeah, if someone offers you a $2M pay raise, or even a $1M raise, you gotta consider it. But I highly doubt it was that much more, maybe 500k more. To me, that's not enough to make a decision based solely on money. He was likely already making $1M+. Plus, most of these guys have insurance in case of injury, so they're still gonna get paid again, even if they get hurt. How much money do you realistically need? I could live very comfortably for years on $1M, but that's not what most of these players do. They end up buying expensive cars that they don't even need, or they give it away to any friend or family member with their hand out, and then they go ask for more money
 
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