Trump attacks Iran (was "Help is on the way")

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Prior to Iran attacks, CIA assessed Khamenei could be replaced by hardline IRGC elements if killed, sources say​

In the run-up to the U.S. and Israeli attacks on Saturday, the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency assessed that even if Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei was killed in the operation, he could be replaced by hardline figures from the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), two sources briefed on the intelligence said.
The agency's assessments, which were produced over the past two weeks, looked broadly at what could occur in Iran following a U.S. intervention and the extent to which a military operation could trigger regime change in the Islamic Republic -- now a pronounced objective for Washington.
 
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Prior to Iran attacks, CIA assessed Khamenei could be replaced by hardline IRGC elements if killed, sources say​

In the run-up to the U.S. and Israeli attacks on Saturday, the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency assessed that even if Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei was killed in the operation, he could be replaced by hardline figures from the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), two sources briefed on the intelligence said.
The agency's assessments, which were produced over the past two weeks, looked broadly at what could occur in Iran following a U.S. intervention and the extent to which a military operation could trigger regime change in the Islamic Republic -- now a pronounced objective for Washington.

So all we probably did was kill an 86 year old and plunge an already crazy complex situation into possibly a military dictatorship. I thought the idea was to prevent them from getting nukes… not make them desire them even more
 
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I get what you are saying, but grammar and spelling is misleading. I have trouble conveying my message on the board, and especially grammar and spelling. I omit words, sometimes entire phrases. It’s frustrating, to go back and read something you wrote and wonder what 5th grader wrote it. A good 50% of my posts are edited. Hard to believe I designed several Course Syllabi and taught Aerospace Physiology in the military , and now have trouble stringing together coherent phrases and sentences. All because of that Pesky Stroke in the frontal lobe suffered 15 years ago. . You never really know someone’s situation. It’s not all education.

To be clear, I was sorta kidding except for the fact every MAGA addresses every single issue in the exact same way. My point wasn't to pick on misspelling so much as it was to make the jibe that the MAGA is more on message with the same verbiage than any political movement in history, far more in common with a cult than with politics. And Trump is a notorious mis speller (he's a member of the Cofveve Hall of Fame). I was more suggesting the talking points always sound copy and pasted from a MAGA email.

But let's touch on the issue he's talking about, which is a tired canard at this point, "Well, if Trump is in the Epstein Files then why didn't Biden release them?"

There is so much childish pretentiousness in that reply that not even the ones making the knee jerk objection actually believe it. For starters, that's been answered multiple times that they were sealed. But the bigger issue is that it ASSUMES BIDEN WOULD DO SOMETHING JUST BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT TRUMP WOULD DO !!!


Trump is granted some level of political genius infallibility that has never been true, but his MAGAs (as opposed to "well, I don't like him but" voters) lap it up like a cat tasting antifreeze.



Let's turn the question around:

If Trump isn't in the Epstein Files, WHY ISN'T HIS DOJ FOLLOWING THE LAW???

See how it works? (Note that it also ASSUMES that Trump's 3,484th whine about "they're prosecuting me on a political witch hunt" is TRUE. It ASSUMES everyone is obsessed with Trump as he himself is.



There are legit legal reasons why Biden didn't release the files that do not necessarily have anything to do with a cover-up or anything else.


There is not one single legit reason Trump has for not releasing ALL of the files.


Unless, of course, he's in them.
 

Prior to Iran attacks, CIA assessed Khamenei could be replaced by hardline IRGC elements if killed, sources say​

In the run-up to the U.S. and Israeli attacks on Saturday, the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency assessed that even if Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei was killed in the operation, he could be replaced by hardline figures from the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), two sources briefed on the intelligence said.
The agency's assessments, which were produced over the past two weeks, looked broadly at what could occur in Iran following a U.S. intervention and the extent to which a military operation could trigger regime change in the Islamic Republic -- now a pronounced objective for Washington.

But remember:


" All of these experts - 'Oh, we need an expert!' The experts are terrible," Trump said.

"Look at the mess we're in with all these experts that we have," Trump continued. "Look at the mess. Look at the Middle East. If our presidents and our politicians went on vacation for 365 days-a-year - if they went to the beach, we'd be in much better shape right now in the Middle East. Right?"
 
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Why Diplomacy Was Doomed: Trump’s Issue Was Iran’s Leadership Itself​

President Trump’s envoys negotiated with Iran over its nuclear program. But Mr. Trump and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel wanted much more.
The Trump administration’s diplomacy with Iran to avert a war appeared to be on a near-certain path to failure even before it reached a critical point last week.

The giveaway came in a fiery phrase that Secretary of State Marco Rubio uttered a couple times this month. The “radical Shia clerics” leading Iran could not be trusted, he said at the Munich Security Conference and later in Hungary.

“We have to understand that Iran ultimately is governed and its decisions are governed by Shia clerics — radical Shia clerics, OK?” he told reporters in Budapest. “These people make policy decisions on the basis of pure theology. That’s how they make their decisions. So, it’s hard to do a deal with Iran.”

His remarks signaled that President Trump and some of his top aides did not believe they could work with the leaders of Iran, on compromises over the country’s nuclear program or anything else.
 
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Why Diplomacy Was Doomed: Trump’s Issue Was Iran’s Leadership Itself​

President Trump’s envoys negotiated with Iran over its nuclear program. But Mr. Trump and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel wanted much more.
The Trump administration’s diplomacy with Iran to avert a war appeared to be on a near-certain path to failure even before it reached a critical point last week.

The giveaway came in a fiery phrase that Secretary of State Marco Rubio uttered a couple times this month. The “radical Shia clerics” leading Iran could not be trusted, he said at the Munich Security Conference and later in Hungary.

“We have to understand that Iran ultimately is governed and its decisions are governed by Shia clerics — radical Shia clerics, OK?” he told reporters in Budapest. “These people make policy decisions on the basis of pure theology. That’s how they make their decisions. So, it’s hard to do a deal with Iran.”

His remarks signaled that President Trump and some of his top aides did not believe they could work with the leaders of Iran, on compromises over the country’s nuclear program or anything else.
I take it That Trump/Rubio were guided in their opinion by Natanyahu. I am reminded that North Korea has Nukes that threaten Japan and the entire Pacific but we hardly hear crickets about that! This is all about securing Israel as the military hegemon in the Middle East.
 
To be clear, I was sorta kidding except for the fact every MAGA addresses every single issue in the exact same way. My point wasn't to pick on misspelling so much as it was to make the jibe that the MAGA is more on message with the same verbiage than any political movement in history, far more in common with a cult than with politics. And Trump is a notorious mis speller (he's a member of the Cofveve Hall of Fame). I was more suggesting the talking points always sound copy and pasted from a MAGA email.

But let's touch on the issue he's talking about, which is a tired canard at this point, "Well, if Trump is in the Epstein Files then why didn't Biden release them?"

There is so much childish pretentiousness in that reply that not even the ones making the knee jerk objection actually believe it. For starters, that's been answered multiple times that they were sealed. But the bigger issue is that it ASSUMES BIDEN WOULD DO SOMETHING JUST BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT TRUMP WOULD DO !!!


Trump is granted some level of political genius infallibility that has never been true, but his MAGAs (as opposed to "well, I don't like him but" voters) lap it up like a cat tasting antifreeze.



Let's turn the question around:

If Trump isn't in the Epstein Files, WHY ISN'T HIS DOJ FOLLOWING THE LAW???

See how it works? (Note that it also ASSUMES that Trump's 3,484th whine about "they're prosecuting me on a political witch hunt" is TRUE. It ASSUMES everyone is obsessed with Trump as he himself is.



There are legit legal reasons why Biden didn't release the files that do not necessarily have anything to do with a cover-up or anything else.


There is not one single legit reason Trump has for not releasing ALL of the files.


Unless, of course, he's in them.
I understand. But, I sometimes get confused as MAGA because I don’t off hand dismiss all Trump policies because it’s Trump, and have a hard time explaining what I truly mean. The words are in my head are proper, just not out of my mouth or fingers. I think faster than I speak or write.
In regards to Epstein , everything, EVERYTHING needs to be put in the open. No matter who or what it hurts. And, I’m mixed on Biden, and the release of documents.

You are not, but I don’t want anyone to weep for me( figure of speech, obviously) I’m fully functional, just have a hard time getting my point across at times. Not just here, but at work also. Even my family. People think I am angry or hard to deal with. But it’s more frustration , than anger.
 
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I get what you are saying, but grammar and spelling is misleading. I have trouble conveying my message on the board, and especially grammar and spelling. I omit words, sometimes entire phrases. It’s frustrating, to go back and read something you wrote and wonder what 5th grader wrote it. A good 50% of my posts are edited. Hard to believe I designed several Course Syllabi and taught Aerospace Physiology in the military , and now have trouble stringing together coherent phrases and sentences. All because of that Pesky Stroke in the frontal lobe suffered 15 years ago. . You never really know someone’s situation. It’s not all education.

I have great empathy for the situation you are describing.

Multiple concussions changed the way my mind functions and I’m constantly having to re-edit posts over spelling and grammar.

I think the difference though and why Selma made the joke was the use of ‘Dims’ for ‘Dems’

It’s highly likely that was an intentional misspelling.
 
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As I said earlier. At this point, I fully support the military operation . It’s where we are, can’t wind back the hands of time. Pretty much Everyone agreed the Iranian leadership should probably go. The dispute is really was it one nation’s call or rather one man on how to do it.
What’s done is done, let’s hope for a positive outcome for the people of Iran, the U.S. service members and the US as a whole.

Somewhere, deep down I can’t help but think it has something to do with oil. Iranian oil is Underutilized at this point on the world stage.
Especially coupled with the military action in Venezuela. If successful, the U.S. could control 2 of the three largest oil reserves in the world. More than likely, it will blow up in our face.


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