Trump's Policies Part 5

[Huckleberry]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1920921309409694163

Stephen Miller: "The writ of habeas corpus can be suspended in a time of invasion. So I would say that's an option we're actively looking at."

 

[JDCrimson]

Looking at it, they are already doing it... Sadly over half of America wouldn't know what habeas corpus is if you asked them.

Stage an uprising aka J6 invoke martial law and suspend habeas corpus. Fully expect this leading up to mid-terms and 2028. Trump has already told us he was just getting started...

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1920921309409694163

Stephen Miller: "The writ of habeas corpus can be suspended in a time of invasion. So I would say that's an option we're actively looking at."

 

[TIDE-HSV]

Looking at it, they are already doing it... Sadly over half of America wouldn't know what habeas corpus is if you asked them.

Stage an uprising aka J6 invoke martial law and suspend habeas corpus. Fully expect this leading up to mid-terms and 2028. Trump has already told us he was just getting started...

"Started trying" is better. The question now is when they admit openly they're defying court orders (they're doing it already). Miller, who is emerging as Trump's Rasputin, is salivating over the prospect...

 

[TIDE-HSV]

Looking at it, they are already doing it... Sadly over half of America wouldn't know what habeas corpus is if you asked them.

Stage an uprising aka J6 invoke martial law and suspend habeas corpus. Fully expect this leading up to mid-terms and 2028. Trump has already told us he was just getting started...

"Started trying" is better. The question now is when they admit openly they're defying court orders (they're doing it already). Miller, who is emerging as Trump's Rasputin, is salivating over the prospect...

 

[Huckleberry]

Trump to accept $400 million 'flying palace' jet as gift from Qatar: report

President Donald Trump is expected to accept the most valuable gift ever given to a U.S. president. ABC News reported that the royal family of Qatar is prepared to gift a 747-8 jumbo jet for Trump's use as Air Force One until the end of his term, when the aircraft will be transferred to his...

www.rawstory.com

Trump to accept $400 million 'flying palace' jet as gift from Qatar: report

 

[Tidewater]

The privilege of the writ of habeas corpus means that, if the writ is granted, the executive official must bring the body of the accused to court and inform the court what crime it is that the indivisual is accused of having committed.
Lincoln suspended it by executive order. In a speech on July 4, 1861, he explained his reasoning:

… it was considered a duty to authorize the Commanding General in proper cases, according to his discretion, to suspend the privilege of the writ of habeas corpus, or, in other words, to arrest and detain without resort to the ordinary processes and forms of law such individuals as he might deem dangerous to the public safety. This authority has purposely been exercised but very sparingly.

The Lincoln Administration suspended the suspension of the writ of habeas corpus from Maryland all the way to Maine. The administration itself declared that it had arrested 30,000 “political prisoners.”

Nevertheless, the legality and propriety of what has been done under it are questioned, and the attention of the country has been called to the proposition that one who is sworn to "take care that the laws be faithfully executed" should not himself violate them. Of course some consideration was given to the questions of power and propriety before this matter was acted upon. The whole of the laws which were required to be faithfully executed were being resisted and failing of execution in nearly one-third of the States. Must they be allowed to finally fail of execution, even had it been perfectly clear that by the use of the means necessary to their execution some single law, made in such extreme tenderness of the citizen's liberty that practically it relieves more of the guilty than of the innocent, should to a very limited extent be violated? To state the question more directly, Are all the laws but one to go unexecuted, and the Government itself go to pieces lest that one be violated? Even in such a case, would not the official oath be broken if the Government should be overthrown when it was believed that disregarding the single law would tend to preserve it? But it was not believed that this question was presented. It was not believed that any law was violated.

So, if any federal law is violated anywhere, the president is free to violate any federal law he feels he has to, including the suspension the writ of habeas corpus.

The provision of the Constitution that "the privilege of the writ of habeas corpus shall not be suspended unless when, in cases of rebellion or invasion, the public safety may require it" is equivalent to a provision—is a provision—that such privilege may be suspended when, in cases of rebellion or invasion, the public safety does require it. It was decided that we have a case of rebellion

Doubtless Trump would say we are now experiencing an invasion.

and that the public safety does require the qualified suspension of the privilege of the writ which was authorized to be made.

Passive voice hides the actor. Who authorized it?

Now it is insisted that Congress, and not the Executive, is vested with this power; but the Constitution itself is silent as to which or who is to exercise the power;

The constitutional provision on the suspension of the writ of habeas corpus is found in Article I of the United States Constitution, where legislative powers are listed.

and as the provision was plainly made for a dangerous emergency, it can not be believed the framers of the instrument intended that in every case the danger should run its course until Congress could be called together, the very assembling of which might be prevented, as was intended in this case, by the rebellion.

When the Marshall of the Supreme Court of the United States was sent to Fort McHenry (ironically where the Star Spangled Banner was written) to deliver a writ of habeas corpus, he was refused admission to the fort and the commander, tapping on the muzzle of a loaded cannon aimed at the entrance, said, “This is my habeas corpus.”

 

[Bamaro]

Trump to accept $400 million 'flying palace' jet as gift from Qatar: report

President Donald Trump is expected to accept the most valuable gift ever given to a U.S. president. ABC News reported that the royal family of Qatar is prepared to gift a 747-8 jumbo jet for Trump's use as Air Force One until the end of his term, when the aircraft will be transferred to his...

www.rawstory.com

Trump to accept $400 million 'flying palace' jet as gift from Qatar: report

The devil (financial) is in the details.

 

[Huckleberry]

 

[jthomas666]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1920921309409694163

Stephen Miller: "The writ of habeas corpus can be suspended in a time of invasion. So I would say that's an option we're actively looking at."

I did Nazi that coming...

 

[jthomas666]

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Look Trumpinstuf, EVERYBODY knows why drugs cost more in the US, so don't act like you've used your secret decoder ring to bring truth to the masses.

Now if you can actually reduce drug prices without further trashing the economy, then good on you. I'll wait and the the actual order be bursting into song.

"Contributions do wonders, but not with me", says the guy getting a $400 million plane from a foreign country.

 

[CrimsonJazz]

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I'm confused about how this is supposed to work. Does this only apply to Medicare recipients? If so, it makes a little more sense. (Actually, it makes a lot of sense. One of the reasons Medicare is approaching insolvency is because they don't negotiate drug prices.) However, outside of government-run healthcare, this sounds like price-fixing and this sort of thing always ends in disaster.

Of course, there's always the free market route. Make it easier to buy medications from Canada and Mexico and this could help a stunning number of people. Open up the insurance market, too. Make these clowns compete out of state and see what happens to both the premiums and the co-pays of medications.

 

[CrimsonJazz]

The devil (financial) is in the details.

https://www.wsj.com/business/airlines/air-force-one-trump-qatari-jet-l3harris-fc903838?st=G1CgNc

The U.S. government has commissioned L3Harris LHX -1.10%decrease; red down pointing triangle to overhaul a Boeing 747 formerly used by the Qatari government. The Melbourne, Fla.-based company is tasked with retrofitting the plane with certain specialized systems to transform the luxury aircraft into a presidential jet, some of the people said.

Trump wants to have the plane available for use as early as the fall, some of the people said. He has regularly asked for updates. On April 18, the CEO of Boeing came to the Oval Office to meet with Trump, people familiar with the meeting said.

In his first term, Trump commissioned two new presidential planes to replace a pair of aging jets, which are among the world’s most complex aircraft with communications and defensive systems that serve as a command and control platform for the commander in chief. Boeing won the $3.9 billion contract and at one point was expected to have the planes ready by last year. But it is now years behind schedule and billions of dollars over budget, after a series of supplier, engineering and manufacturing setbacks.

Here's a bit more information that, if true, adds some context here. Boeing's reputation isn't exactly stellar at this point in time.

 

[CrimsonJazz]

The Lincoln Administration suspended the suspension of the writ of habeas corpus from Maryland all the way to Maine. The administration itself declared that it had arrested 30,000 “political prisoners.”

Suspending habeas corpus. Let that sink in.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1920935458894213564

Apparently the "Lincoln Project" wouldn't recognize irony if it beat them over the head with a football helmet.

 

[Its On A Slab]

Suspending habeas corpus. Let that sink in.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1920935458894213564

Apparently the "Lincoln Project" wouldn't recognize irony if it beat them over the head with a football helmet.

We are not at war, nor is there an internal insurgency seeking to overthrow the Union.

Other than that, you are correct.

 

[CrimsonJazz]

We are not at war, nor is there an internal insurgency seeking to overthrow the Union.

Other than that, you are correct.

I'm correct about the irony regardless of context. That was the funny part.

 

[CrimsonJazz]

JUST IN: The Trump admin has launched a probe into the state of CALIFORNIA for providing federal benefits to illegals

“Radical left politicians in California prioritize illegal aliens over our own citizens, including by giving illegal aliens access to cash benefits,” DHS Secretary Kristi Noem said

This follows President Trump’s executive order BARRING illegal aliens from receiving Social Security benefits, and ordering a crackdown.

Los Angeles County is in the crosshairs first. I’m sure there’ll be a treasure trove of fraud.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1921917067365629977

 

[Tidewater]

We are not at war, nor is there an internal insurgency seeking to overthrow the Union.

Other than that, you are correct.

The US were not at war in 1861, nor was anybody seeking to overthrow the Union either.
Several states asserted that they no longer wished to be in the Union.
Leaving the Union was not among the actions prohibited by the Constitution (in Article I, Section 10) and using the army to force a state to remain in the Union against the will of its people is not amongst the enumerated powers of the federal government (Article I, Section 8), so attempying to force states to remain in the Union was a violation of the Constitution (and based on this violation, the Upper South states left as well).

 

[TIDE-HSV]

I've watched Miller a long time. He means every word he says, even if it's only a goal or aspiration. Miller wouldn't recognize irony if it hit him between the eyes...

 

[2003TIDE]

This follows President Trump’s executive order BARRING illegal aliens from receiving Social Security benefits, and ordering a crackdown.

Again EO's have no bearing on what CA does with money. They aren't laws that states have to follow and are guidelines for the federal government.

 

[Its On A Slab]

Hey looks like Trump caved and negotiaged a worse deal with China than we had before all this stupidity. It is pretty bad that Trump's greatest accomplishments consist of him just stopping doing whatever dumb stuff he started.

The US were not at war in 1861, nor was anybody seeking to overthrow the Union either.
Several states asserted that they no longer wished to be in the Union.
Leaving the Union was not among the actions prohibited by the Constitution (in Article I, Section 10) and using the army to force a state to remain in the Union against the will of tits people is not amongst the enumerated powers of the federal government (Article I, Section 8), so attempying to force states to remain in the Union was a violation of the Constitution (and based on this violation, the Upper South states left as well).

Um........

In 1861, during the early stages the Civil War, President Abraham Lincoln suspended the writ of habeas corpus, a legal order that allows individuals to seek release from unlawful detention. This action, primarily intended to address rebellion and potential disloyalty, allowed the government to detain individuals without due process, sparking significant controversy and legal challenges.