Video of latest Chop Block

[CHATTBRIT]

The Barners aren't the only ones using the chop block tactic. The Viles of Obnoxiousville regularly employ that tactic too. They did it against Wisconsin today.

 

[Tailgater]

If I remember correctly the first chop block was by Chavez and the second by Pugh.

On a second look you are correct. But his name is Chaz Ramsey.

 

[4Q Basket Case]

Finally,

Yes a penalty was called. Earle.....please bear with me.

The ENTIRE offensive line, as many of you are saying, does not chop block. Both of this season's chop blocks were committed by the same player. That player is a freshman. I don't believe it is now, nor has it ever been "taught" at Auburn. I am a little upset the Hugh Nall allowed this to happen for the 2nd time in the same season.

I believe that this behavior was learned in high school. I think anyone who knows ANYTHING about the Hoover Defense under a certain coach would agree. As a mater of fact there is video of Coach Propst, telling his defense to "Kill Vestavia's Knees if they don't go down the first time" (Check the first season of 2-A-Days.)

If you're trying to blame two cut blocks on a high school coach, that's lame, and more of an indictment of the current OL coach than the HS one. So pick your poison...is the player a jerk bordering on criminal, or is his current coach complicit?

The guy has done this at least twice, at least once to a future 1st round draft choice. He's the left tackle. He's on an island a lot. I'll bet you a bottle of Lagavulin he doesn't make it through next year with unsurgered knees. And I'm sure LSU's Dorsey and the Clemson player will hoist a toast to the avenger.

I don't say this often or lightly. After what he's done...at least twice...he deserves, short of crippling or lethal injury, whatever might come his way. If that short-circuits an NFL career, like I said, he's a dirty player, he's tried to do that to at least two other players, he deserves whatever retribution other players choose to exact, and he and his coach should be held accountable.

 

[AlexanderFan]

Tail,

Face it, the OL at AU plays dirty, whether or not they are instructed to or not the behavior is allowed by AU. The GD block was so blatant even to the untrained eye it was embarassing. I like TT as a coach, I respect his success and applaud most of his calculated gambles. However, allowing this kind of behavior to continue on his team is beyond poor sportsmanship.

 

[rhYno]

Finally,



I believe that this behavior was learned in high school. I think anyone who knows ANYTHING about the Hoover Defense under a certain coach would agree. As a mater of fact there is video of Coach Propst, telling his defense to "Kill Vestavia's Knees if they don't go down the first time" (Check the first season of 2-A-Days.)

Oh come on now, we all know Rush Probst isn't that bad of a guy!:rofl:

 

[bama_jam]

The League and NCAA needs to give the officials the power to eject the offending player. For this and for the head to head stuff. UT was trying today to head to head on the UW QB and put him out of the game. One of the Hawaii players went HTH on a Georgia kick returner, the Georgia kid was a senior and this was his last game, he only got to play one play because of concussion. It was pretty obvious after seeing the Hawaii player's other activities he was a "hit man". The NCAA and the SEC should "act" like they care about the safety of the players.

 

[Tailgater]

If you're trying to blame two cut blocks on a high school coach, that's lame, and more of an indictment of the current OL coach than the HS one. So pick your poison...is the player a jerk bordering on criminal, or is his current coach complicit?

The guy has done this at least twice, at least once to a future 1st round draft choice. He's the left tackle. He's on an island a lot. I'll bet you a bottle of Lagavulin he doesn't make it through next year with unsurgered knees. And I'm sure LSU's Dorsey and the Clemson player will hoist a toast to the avenger.

I don't say this often or lightly. After what he's done...at least twice...he deserves, short of crippling or lethal injury, whatever might come his way. If that short-circuits an NFL career, like I said, he's a dirty player, he's tried to do that to at least two other players, he deserves whatever retribution other players choose to exact, and he and his coach should be held accountable.

I dont disagree. I said in another post as a former OLineman I know what is feels like to get burnt by someone bigger and better than me. It was embarassing for me to see it happen but I in no way believe it is taught. Hugh Nall has been at Auburn for 8 years and this has never been a problem. He is a very highly respected offensive line coach.

Now with that being said, If this becomes a permanent fixture in the offensive tactics of this team, I will start to question Hugh Nall.

 

[Bama Reb]

The Barners aren't the only ones using the chop block tactic. The Viles of Obnoxiousville regularly employ that tactic too. They did it against Wisconsin today.

I must have missed the chop block, but I did get a good view of a UT player intentionally spiking to the helmet of a Wisconsin player. There was not even a flag on that play, even though it's as dangerous if not more so than a chop block.

 

[Tailgater]

I must have missed the chop block, but I did get a good view of a UT player intentionally spiking to the helmet of a Wisconsin player. There was not even a flag on that play, even though it's as dangerous if not more so than a chop block.

What play was that? I must have missed that.

 

[Tennessee]

What play was that? I must have missed that.

He's probably referring to the play where Tyler Donovan was diving into the end zone head first, and Eric Berry came from the side and just creamed him...it could not tell if Berry moved his head and hit with his shoulder, one angle it looked like helmet to helmet, the other, it looked like shoulder pad to helmet...Either way, he nailed him...

I honestly would have had no problem with the ref throwing a flag, and vice-versa, I would have had no problem if the situations were reversed and that was the UT QB and a Wisconsin Safety, I'd have no problem with the ref keeping the flag in his pocket...I could see it either way...I don't think there was intent to injure...If you are a safety, and a QB is jumping through the air towards the endzone head first, and you don't attempt a hard hit, then you just ain't playing, IMO

That play is one of those that completely depends on POV, and which side of the fence you are sitting on...

 

[Mussofan22]

If coaches at AU or any other school either teach or allow the chop blocks, they should be fired or seriously disciplined...especially if it happens more than once with the same player. Pathetic!!!

 

[StoneMtnDew]

The first time it happened it could have been blamed on inexperience, the second time it looks much worse. Kids that do that should be suspended the rest of the game or something along those lines.

Let's not get silly here and call for AU players to be injured, that's just classless. Let's also not get so emotional over something that isn't nearly as bad as some make it out to be; it's not rape or murder.

 

[Tailgater]

The first time it happened it could have been blamed on inexperience, the second time it looks much worse. Kids that do that should be suspended the rest of the game or something along those lines.

Let's not get silly here and call for AU players to be injured, that's just classless. Let's also not get so emotional over something that isn't nearly as bad as some make it out to be; it's not rape or murder.

The longer I visit this board the more i like you. VERY reasonable post. I agree 100%

 

[TIDE-HSV]

I'll stand by my prediction that cut-blocking, although highly effective, will eventually be outlawed and will go the way of spearing and the flying wedge. Sportingnews.com compared it to being allowed to shoot out your opponent's tires in NASCAR. The NFL has limited it already and everybody hates Denver for their use of it and the injuries they've caused. Of course, having had three knee operations probably colors my attitude...

 

[JeffAtlanta]

FWIW, Mark Bradley mentioned this in his latest column in the AJC, Clemson, Auburn share more than orange

Say this for Auburn, though: It can still chop block with the best (or, more precisely, the worst) of them. An unflagged chop block on LSU’s Glenn Dorsey left Les Miles raging — he called it “immoral” — and induced this declaration from Tuberville: “We will not tolerate it.”

Barely seven minutes into the Chick-fil-A Bowl, tackle Ryan Pugh dove into the back of Clemson nose guard Dorell Scott’s knees while Scott was being blocked high by Tyronne Green.

This time a flag was thrown, not that it was much consolation to Scott, who had to be helped from the field and who missed the rest of the half. And what was Intolerant Tommy’s immediate response? There was none. Pugh started the next series.

 

[uaintn]

It's creepy and it doesn't belong in football. League officials need to take action on this and soon. The players aren't stupid. They see people get away with this (and I don't include getting a 15 yard penalty in the definition of being punished for it) and pretty soon it's going to lead to retaliation -- that is what football cannot afford. Players who are flagged for it should be ejected from the remainder of the game. Further action should be up to the league, not the team, and should include penalties for players and coaches.

 

[CrimsonNeck]

The League and NCAA needs to give the officials the power to eject the offending player. For this and for the head to head stuff. UT was trying today to head to head on the UW QB and put him out of the game. One of the Hawaii players went HTH on a Georgia kick returner, the Georgia kid was a senior and this was his last game, he only got to play one play because of concussion. It was pretty obvious after seeing the Hawaii player's other activities he was a "hit man". The NCAA and the SEC should "act" like they care about the safety of the players.

:biga:Absolutely agree w/you. But the NCAA currently DOES allow referees the ability to eject a player for ANY flagrant foul but it is very seldom used (& w/good reason). What I'd like to see in addition to chop-blocking garnering a 15 yd penalty, is upon video-evidence allow the replay official to make a final call of tossing a player for such a penalty & pass this onto the NCAA for further action if it is found that a player is doing this on multiple occasions maybe demanding a suspension of the player. I also want to see "horse-collar" tackling taken off the acceptable-tackling-technique-table as well. That currently garners a 15-yarder in the Pros & should in at college level as well, IMHO. Both are screwing a lot of knees up - needlessly.:biga:

 

[bamaslaw]

The thing that baffles me is:

even if he doesn't go low, that's still an illegal block in the back. How could he have thought it was a good idea to block him?

 

[Deceks7]

So does this make Samuels an evil, dirty player? Or could his just be an accident? Way too much willingness to attach malice to these events.....

http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/2007...lovie-smith-to-apologize-for-block-that-ende/

Chris Samuels Calls Lovie Smith to Apologize for Block That Ended Antonio Garay's Season

Michael David SmithPosted Dec 16th 2007 9:18AM by Michael David Smith
Filed under: Bears, Redskins, Chicago, Washington, DC

Last Thursday, Redskins offensive tackle Chris Samuels hit Bears defensive tackle Antonio Garay with an illegal chop block, breaking Garay's leg and ending his season.

The officials missed it and Samuels wasn't flagged on the play, but he was later fined $12,500. And he also later did something else that not many players would do: He called Bears coach Lovie Smith to offer his apology. Smith recounts the conversation on the Bears' web site:

"It's not like he had to [call to apologize]," Smith said. "I know what type of football player he is. He's not a dirty player or anything like that. But it says a lot about a guy who's sorry for something that was unfortunate...

"It's not something he tried to do on purpose," Smith said. "Things like that happen in the game of football sometime."

None of that is likely to be much consolation to Garay. But it was a nice gesture on Samuels' part.

 

[biglittlelittle]

I guess the Auburn tackle apologized to the guy hurt already and/or Tommy Bowden? I mean I can respect that. But I haven't heard that news yet coming from Auburn.