Question: What Is Our Biggest Problem On Offense?

[Bamabuzzard]

I will admit that not just one person/unit is to blame.

It's just a colossal failure by the whole offense and the only group that gets off the hook in my opinion is the wide receivers. We were told in the preseason they were the problem and the OL was the strength.

But truthfully, the OL, QB and RBs have all contributed to the overall struggle.

I'm not saying CTR is perfect. We know he's not, but if receivers are open he can't throw the ball from the pressbox.

My only suggestion is more short stuff on the edges to soften the bull rush. It'll depend on JM getting the ball out quickly, but if it's his only read it should be catch snap (which has been a struggle at times) and throw.

I'll start blaming Rees when I stop seeing multiple WR's running open on plays that we can't get the ball to because the offensive line can't block and/or the QB doesn't see them. We're a loooong way from beginning to look at the OC as the problem.

 

[davefrat]

I'll start blaming Rees when I stop seeing multiple WR's running open on plays that we can't get the ball to because the offensive line can't block and/or the QB doesn't see them. We're a loooong way from beginning to look at the OC as the problem.

I suspect the current OC expected there to be more in the cupboard for him to work with when he came in.

And I still can't get my head around how the S&C team allowed the OL to bloat themselves into chest freezers.

There are a lot of head-scratchers with this team over the last few seasons.

 

[bamaga]

O line, then wideouts not creating separation and catching the ball, then milroe -- RTR

There is nothing wrong with our receiver corps, this is a false narrative.

 

[Bamabuzzard]

I suspect the current OC expected there to be more in the cupboard for him to work with when he came in.

And I still can't get my head around how the S&C team allowed the OL to bloat themselves into chest freezers.

There are a lot of head-scratchers with this team over the last few seasons.

Agreed. The offensive line issues and why they continue at this level of football is absolutely confusing to me and I struggle to see other teams within the conference have this level of issues with this unit year over year. Yet somehow we do. I just don't understand how that happens...

 

[statgrad96]

I don't think Milroe can hit those quick slants.

You mean like the one he hit Burton on for a TD at A&M?

No offense, I agree he holds on to the ball too long, but from what I saw when I was in Tampa, TS has that same problem, if not worse. Makes me wonder if it's the QB coaching...

 

[davefrat]

Agreed. The offensive line issues and why they continue at this level of football is absolutely confusing to me and I struggle to see other teams within the conference have this level of issues with this unit year over year. Yet somehow we do. I just don't understand how that happens...

No matter the era, football was, is, and always will be about who can control the line of scrimmage.

A team with dominating lines on both sides of the ball will almost always be successful.

 

[BamaMoon]

Agreed. The offensive line issues and why they continue at this level of football is absolutely confusing to me and I struggle to see other teams within the conference have this level of issues with this unit year over year. Yet somehow we do. I just don't understand how that happens...

Just go hire Stoutland from the Eagles and make him Coach in Waiting.

I debated the blue 😁, but a team can have good to average WRs, RBs and even QBs (see GMAC, Coker, Sims, etct) and be good IF that team has a very good OL.

The kind of OL we have this year is the kind that ends dynasties. Sounds like a hot take, but is it really???

 

[Ole Man Dan]

Milroe.
Holds the ball too long.
Too slow going thru progressions.
Milroe backs out of the Pocket, when he should step up.
Milroe Runs when he has open Receivers.
Milroe has a good long ball, but can't throw Short or mid range.

Let me use a bad analogy. Leaving the dock with a boat that has a bad leak. By the time we get to mid season, you wonder if we can make it, or will we sink.
It's now too late to return to the dock and try another boat.
Our only option is to gut it out and hope we can make it.

Trivia... The Titanic sank in water about 12,500 foot deep.
(I know other useless facts too. )

 

[Cruloc]

Milroe.
Holds the ball too long.
Too slow going thru progressions.
Milroe backs out of the Pocket, when he should step up.
Milroe Runs when he has open Receivers.
Milroe has a good long ball, but can't throw Short or mid range.

Let me use a bad analogy. Leaving the dock with a boat that has a bad leak. By the time we get to mid season, you wonder if we can make it, or will we sink.
It's now too late to return to the dock and try another boat.
Our only option is to gut it out and hope we can make it.

Trivia... The Titanic sank in water about 12,500 foot deep.
(I know other useless facts too. )

 

[irvingtontide]

You mean like the one he hit Burton on for a TD at A&M?

No offense, I agree he holds on to the ball too long, but from what I saw when I was in Tampa, TS has that same problem, if not worse. Makes me wonder if it's the QB coaching...

That’s one in 6 games for him this year it’s an outlier at this point.

He honestly did not hold the ball that long on his sacks against USF for the most part. He had two throw aways in a half against USF I’ve counted 4-5 all year from milroe. Seems like something that’s not that good of a stat but being able to just throw the ball away when the play is not there is underrated. Ty was 5/9 figure in two throw aways and a drop and Ty only missed on one pass. Sure it’s a small sample size being half a game. He really only had two sack I would say was his fault he needed to get rid of the ball or run. The other three was 1.Seth got blown up at the snap 2. Proctor let an edge guy beat him without touching him 3. Jace gave one of the worst effort blocks by a Saban starting rb and the guy essentially walked through untouched. Milroe has taken these same sacks all year so he’s not an improvement in this area.

I’ll say right now Ty has some issues that need to be worked on and pocket awareness is at the top but he is a more polished passer and after a couple games of experience I think Ty could’ve had our offense seen as a true threat and not anemic like it is now.

I think the team got behind milroe and Saban picked the guy the team would play harder for. I think Bookers comment about milroe being a lineman’s kind of QB kinda points to that. I guess that is ultimately Ty’s fault he couldn’t win the team over.

 

[Cruiser]

Has there been a time doing this season where we had the opposing defense "on their heels" with tempo and offensive scheme? If we have to use hurry up to come from behind and win a game; it may not end well.

 

[tidefan39817]

The Proctor blame is fair.

According to PFF he is responsible for 58% of the Sacks given up by the OL

1 guy… 58%

 

[AWRTR]

There's a handful of sacks that were Milroe's fault by either going backwards too far and not stepping up in the pocket, holding on to the ball too long, and not throwing the ball away when he was outside the pocket. Sometimes I don't know what Rees is doing. The quick slant was one of our go to plays and I have rarely seen it this year.

Milroe can’t throw it consistently

 

[teamplayer]

It's impossible for me to pick a "biggest" because we are so weak at so many positions that affect each other. It just blows my mind that athletes and coaches at the best program in the country can look like Keystone Cops running around without a clue how to operate. If I have to pick one, I still say the QB causes the most problems, but the offensive line isn't far behind. If you have a weak QB and o-line, it is really difficult to get anything done consistently. We have looked better at times, but we haven't had more than about a quarter and a half of solid consistent play during any game this entire year. That, my friends, is a joke. I keep hoping that we turn it around, but if I had to bet, I would bet for a few more losses instead of suddenly threatening to win the SEC and make the playoff.

 

[davefrat]

Has there been a time doing this season where we had the opposing defense "on their heels" with tempo and offensive scheme? If we have to use hurry up to come from behind and win a game; it may not end well.

Probably MTSU...who turned out to be a pretty horrible team this year.

 

[spidermayin]

Probably MTSU...who turned out to be a pretty horrible team this year.

Even in that game, we didn't impose our will running the ball nearly as much as we were hyped to do and that was the first big red flag. I was still cautiously optimistic about the offense after that game.

 

[selmaborntidefan]

We have a Swiss cheese offensive line, Milroe can't decide if he's Tarzan or Jane, and we make stupid penalties that cost us.

 

[Grogan11]

I really think it goes back to when the portal first opened. There is no reason for a national championship contending team to not have a proven QB on the roster. CTR would look better if he was able to use the full playbook. The Oline would look better with a QB that was more decisive. The WR’s would look much more explosive if they could run routes on all levels. The RB’s would would see more room to run and maybe even catch the ball out of the backfield once in a while with a QB that has touch.

It is what it is, this is the our team this year. I do feel JM is the QB best suited to lead this team and he’s doing about as well as can be expected. CNS chose the hard way this year but we can definitely still finish on top in the end.

 

[RollTide_HTTR]

FWIW for those who talk about the portal. There is a relatively loud rumor that Saban will be more aggressive with the portal going into next year

 

[Tenntiderman]

There's a handful of sacks that were Milroe's fault by either going backwards too far and not stepping up in the pocket, holding on to the ball too long, and not throwing the ball away when he was outside the pocket. Sometimes I don't know what Rees is doing. The quick slant was one of our go to plays and I have rarely seen it this year.

Everytime a play goes awry...I expect to see him in the booth with both hands on his head. That was not a good look. You don't want your OC sitting upstairs looking like he wishes he was sipping a margarita in the Bahamas.