Question: What is the rule re:offside when three men in motion at the snap?
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Ever seen that cartoon that shows an employee suggestion box...and on the other side of the wall is a trash can under the slot...?
Exactly, you can motion three guys as long as they do it at the same time
That goes both ways. They did a review on a play in the 2019 IB game to see if it was a first down or not that effectively gave Auburn a timeout, plus stopped the clock. Otherwise the clock would have run out before the half. The review plus stopping the clock (which should not have happened) gave them time to get their field goal unit on the field and kick it just before halftime. It was the difference in the game.
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I generally agree that the officiating left a lot to be desired, especially on the offside--3 in motion play but I am thankful that in the scuffles and punches that were being thrown late that they didn't decide to skew the SEC Championship by throwing one or more of our players (and perhaps a couple of AU players out of the game and getting them suspended for this week. Not a totally mitigating action for poor officiating but on this point I am grateful.
560 am out of Nashville has a retired SEC official (forgot his name ) on most Wednesdays between 6-9 am. I will be shocked if several plays are not addressed from this game . I think the segment is around 7:20am cst but don't hold me to that. It's a popular segment.
That would have resulted in a stoppage of play, I believe.... so no justifiable defense there.
I thought that AU was trying to do just that...and the officials would have nothing of it...I am grateful as well. After seeing the dirty shots, etc., I have less respect for CHF than ever...if that was possible.
An Aub co-worker claims that Bama had a situation in 2017 where the center quick-snapped the ball in an effort to catch Auburn with 12 men on the field. Hurts was the QB and maybe my guy said the snap was fumbled because Hurts wasn't expecting it... not sure. Anyway, he said Bama had players moving all over the place at the snap (since it was not the planned time to snap the ball) and that Bama wasn't called for a penalty on that play (while Auburn was, for 12 men on the field). He likened that to Saturday's "three men in motion" play and said maybe the defensive penalty "trumps" anything the offense does. I'm not buying it... and in fact would need him to prove the 2017 instance to me before I try to draw any parallels. @selmaborntidefan , do you have a recollection of that particular instance from 2017?
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The officials completely lost control of the game on Auburn's final possession. I think the next to last play may have been a safety that wasn't called or looked at. I suppose the running close was beneficial to us, though. I thought they should have reviewed it, but were too interested in hurrying themselves up to cater to Auburn's need to hurry up.
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I understand that is the current rule, but I do feel that it should be reviewed and changed. I feel there is a difference between changing the formation and simulating a snap under the guise of changing formations.
The WR was in motion and should have to stop and re-establish himself before changing formations. The TE's made a sharp right turn which simulated a snapped ball. Typically a change in formation is not done with the same urgency of snapping the ball.
Yeah - I watched the replay and it was actually Nessler that said it. Danielson kind of corrected him without actually saying he was wrong during the review time.
Thing is, both Alabama players stopped and were headed back across the LOS. If the QB waits until the motion players reset, Alabama would have been back and there would have been no penalty on anyone. The Auburn QB did not know the rules and called for the snap. That created the double penalty. But the officials blew it.
The lesson to learn is simple - never trust the officials to get it right. Don't jump off sides. Look at the ball, and don't move until the ball moves.
Man you got that right.. and that is true for just about any infraction.
Look at it this way. When the offense breaks the huddle, all eleven players were in motion, and most of them towards the line of scrimmage.
At what point must all this movement stop? The offense has to "set" for one second and during that time, only one offensive player is allowed to be in motion.
The Barn was not "set" when the Barn center snapped the ball, so it was (or should have been) illegal procedure on the Barn. A Bama player was in the neutral zone when the ball was snapped, so it should have been an infraction on Alabama. Offsetting penalties.
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