Cyrus Kouandjio will announce on Monday betwen Bama and Awbarn

[RedStar]

Re: Cyrus Kouandjio commits to the barn but he has not faxed his LOI in

I wonder how much the barn ha$ $een to it coach McGregor talk$ favorable about them to CK.

We get it. We all think AU is dirty in regards to PFP. What I don't get is why we have to insinuate it in at least one post per page.

 

[RTR91]

Re: Cyrus Kouandjio commits to the barn but he has not faxed his LOI in

I still find the coach's comment about wanting to move on strange. Why does the coach care how long it takes Cyrus? He doesn't have to talk to the media. He doesn't have to worry about stuff. He can work on his team.

 

[GreatMarch]

Re: Don't feed the troll!!!

People keep advising him to follow his heart that its his decision, etc. From what I have seen from his committment and subsequently not faxing letter of intent in and to make comments that he had doubts afterwards, his heart is not in Auburn. Seems pretty simple if that is the advice he is being given. If his heart were with AU, no brainer, he would have signed on the dotted line. I hope he is happy wherever he goes, life is too short to fish with dead crickets.

A vendor of ours on a conference call a little earlier told us he had regrets about something that come out of his mouth a few years ago in comparing to this deal with CK. The words were "I do" and he said he got divorced a year later. He said he regretted it the moment he said it and was unsure of his choice.

 

[RedStar]

Re: Cyrus Kouandjio commits to the barn but he has not faxed his LOI in

I really think it's just a coach being a coach. I honestly don't think he cares where CK ends up, but a lot of coaches teach their kids to stick by their word. If a kid commits to a school, a lot of coaches wont let other schools contact that player anymore. Not everyone is like this, but a lot of coaches (old school coaches) think you should be a man of your word. If you say you're going to do something, you do it. I think that's all this coach is doing. I could be way off, but I don't think there's anything sinister going on here with the Dematha coach.

 

[bamaga]

Re: Cyrus Kouandjio commits to the barn but he has not faxed his LOI in

If you're insinuating that's what 'Bama did with Arie, guess again - Arie was a 4* recruit last year.

You'll have to do more research / better than this if you wish to hang around...

better than rankings, He was offered by tennessee, Notre dame, USC, and Miami(fl), as well as about 10 other schools

 

[RTR91]

Re: Cyrus Kouandjio commits to the barn but he has not faxed his LOI in

I really think it's just a coach being a coach. I honestly don't think he cares where CK ends up, but a lot of coaches teach their kids to stick by their word. If a kid commits to a school, a lot of coaches wont let other schools contact that player anymore. Not everyone is like this, but a lot of coaches (old school coaches) think you should be a man of your word. If you say you're going to do something, you do it. I think that's all this coach is doing. I could be way off, but I don't think there's anything sinister going on here with the Dematha coach.

I see what you're talking about Redstar. I'm going to use the analogy my dad gave me one time when we were talking about recruits keeping their word.

He told me if I came to him after being engaged for a while and then said I was having my doubts, he would want me to hold off the wedding. Of course, a marriage and college choice are the same thing, but if you have doubts, you don't need to keep your word. There is obviously a reason you have doubts.

 

[Alakablamo]

Re: Cyrus Kouandjio commits to the barn but he has not faxed his LOI in

To rip on a coaching staff for "recruiting the parents" seems pretty uneducated. If my daughter was being recruited by a couple of different schools, and I had a long history with one in particular where I knew all of the coaches, knew what they were about, knew the answer to every question I had, and was never promised anything to sway my opinion or make me think otherwise... well, that's one thing.

But then if some other college comes calling, brings her in for a weekend visit at the last possible moment before signing, and all of a sudden the years worth of history had with the original school get throw out the window, I'd throw the brakes on the situation just like Jean-Claud did and see what's up, too.

The parents for Cyrus or Brent didn't have any particular allegiance to any one school (less so for Cyrus, but his recruitment was still open, per his family). And when the *COMPLETELY RATIONAL THOUGHT PROCESS* of a 17 or 18yo cease to make logical sense, I see exactly why they intervened to make sure their kids knew the consequences of their actions and what they were getting into. Any real parent would have done the same.

Cyrus may still pick Auburn, but at least his family will have made sure he was ready for that if it comes to pass.

 

[RamJamHam]

Re: Cyrus Kouandjio commits to the barn but he has not faxed his LOI in

I've read a number of articles posted this morning and only saw a coach being a coach.

Dematha has produced a lot of D1 talent, and I'm sure the coach is just trying to help CK through a situation he has been through many previous times with other players, though obviously never raised to this level of drama. I'm sure he's heard every pitch a school could throw at a recruit and can help CK sift through it - hence his explanation to CK about why he wouldn't be competing with Arie.

One way to look at it is that this coach is trying to protect the kids he may have that will be recruited next year and the year after that. If the kids from his school get a reputation for being less than forthright (not saying they should, just if they should), then the next group may suffer.

 

[bamaga]

Re: Cyrus Kouandjio commits to the barn but he has not faxed his LOI in

I really think it's just a coach being a coach. I honestly don't think he cares where CK ends up, but a lot of coaches teach their kids to stick by their word. If a kid commits to a school, a lot of coaches wont let other schools contact that player anymore. Not everyone is like this, but a lot of coaches (old school coaches) think you should be a man of your word. If you say you're going to do something, you do it. I think that's all this coach is doing. I could be way off, but I don't think there's anything sinister going on here with the Dematha coach.

Actually, CM is looking out for Arie, CNS has made it clear to the family that Arie would be persona non grata in T-town if Cyrus signs with the barn; or so I am told by inside sources also known as barn fans.

 

[bamaga]

Re: Cyrus Kouandjio commits to the barn but he has not faxed his LOI in

Do you think Auburn fans actually comprehend the words coming out of their mouths? or the words written from their keyboards?

 

[skipster63]

Re: Cyrus Kouandjio commits to the barn but he has not faxed his LOI in

I really think it's just a coach being a coach. I honestly don't think he cares where CK ends up, but a lot of coaches teach their kids to stick by their word. If a kid commits to a school, a lot of coaches wont let other schools contact that player anymore. Not everyone is like this, but a lot of coaches (old school coaches) think you should be a man of your word. If you say you're going to do something, you do it. I think that's all this coach is doing. I could be way off, but I don't think there's anything sinister going on here with the Dematha coach.

I think that is a fair comment. The player represents the school so if you go on air and say you are going to a certain school.....then at that point you are committed. I am not saying you have to go through with it. But it is like what CNS said in his conference......there was a gentlemen's agreement in the Big 10 that once a kid committed, then he was committed and if the player who was otherwise committed to another school contacted him then he would tell the coach at the school he was committed to that he had been contacted and to work it out. I think the coach has CK's best interest at heart and we would be remiss to question that and the coach was put in a very awkward spot with Gene.

I do not think anyone on this board can really have a good perspective on this. First, we (or 99.9% of us) are devoted Alabama fans. Obviously Cyrus was uncomfortable with his decision and caught the family off guard. As a parent, you step in and intervene to help the kid out. I think the coach was trying to help Cyrus out as well and I'm sure the coach will respect family boundaries and/or balance out the considerations. But this is a family matter now and we'll have to live with what the family decides which will consider CK's own preference at this point. I am sure the coach would have much rather CK taken his time instead of making a premature judgment call and it is clear it was premature and as such reflects on the coach's program. I am sure the coach and the parents though realize that CK is a kid after all and kids sometimes need help. Coaches in my life were influential in my life and the word "coach" went beyond calling x's and o's on the field. So I'm sure the coach is there for CK if he needs him but this will clearly be a family matter now. I think we all just need to step back and respect that. The parents have been respectful. The coach's demand that CK call Auburn was respectful because it put him in a very awkward spot vis a vi Coach Chizik. So I believe the coach and the parents have handled this situation about as well as you could have handled it. CK may want to chart his own way outside Arie's shadow and if so we will have to respect that choice although I clearly will not like it. I feel for CK and I particularly feel for the parents. It is a difficult balance when your kid is still a kid but old enough that you have to respect their choices. At some point, it becomes their decision. So let's just let this play out...pay no attention to trolls on this board and not prejudge Auburn, the coach, etc. It seems this situation is being handled about as well as it can be by all involved parties.

Roll Tide !

 

[Saban14]

Re: Cyrus Kouandjio commits to the barn but he has not faxed his LOI in

Luginbill - "If I had to give a gut reaction- an inclination, I think he (Kouandjio) ends up at Alabama"

 

[RamJamHam]

Re: Don't feed the troll!!!

A vendor of ours on a conference call a little earlier told us he had regrets about something that come out of his mouth a few years ago in comparing to this deal with CK. The words were "I do" and he said he got divorced a year later. He said he regretted it the moment he said it and was unsure of his choice.

It's amazing how many folks who are urging this kid (or most any other recruit, for that matter) to do what feels right. At 17, the vast majority of these kids are not capable of sifting through the BS to determine what is right for them - especially the BS that comes from professional recruiters. Just look at what happens on their visits: meals, pretty girls, and clubs. It's what appeals to a 17 YO male.

More to the point, what in the world was AU doing with that limo and the whole "Tiger Prowl" thing? Nothing more than a not-so-veiled reference to bling? It would not impress me, but I'm north of 40. If I was 17 and listening to Lil' Wayne, it would probably be pretty cool. But it would have absolutely NOTHING to do with how I would develop as a football player or as a man over the next 3 - 5 years.

This is where parents come in. In particular, this kid's family has been around the block and seems to understand what is best for their kids. He should listen to them - whatever they say. They ARE able to sift through the BS and get to what's real.

 

[skipster63]

Re: Cyrus Kouandjio commits to the barn but he has not faxed his LOI in

Actually, CM is looking out for Arie, CNS has made it clear to the family that Arie would be persona non grata in T-town if Cyrus signs with the barn; or so I am told be inside sources also known as barn fans.

Ooops. Sorry !

 

[TIDEnGA]

Re: Cyrus Kouandjio commits to the barn but he has not faxed his LOI in

For whatever reason(s) his dad isn't comfortable with Auburn and obviously would much prefer he not sign with them. And for whatever reason(s) Cyrus isn't comfortable with Alabama and appears not to want to sign with us. It doesn't all add up but eventually it will have to.

I'm obviously not in the know but I wonder with Iowa coming back up if it's almost like a peace offering or a compromise between dad and son. Again, just speculation on my part.

 

[RTR91]

Re: Cyrus Kouandjio commits to the barn but he has not faxed his LOI in

I can't believe you said this ! You think Coach Saban will consider Arie persona non grata if Cyrus goes elsewhere? I honestly think you have no idea what you are talking about. Why in heaven's name would CNS consider someone who is devoted to Alabama, puts in his blood, sweat and tears in practice, tells his own brother that it basically means war when they meet each other as opposing teams, etc.........that he is persona non grata? Gimme a break. I don't believe that for a second. If CNS is that way (and he's not), I wouldn't want him as my coach. That's tantamount to saying CNS is a spoiled three year old child who will act like an immature brat. I think more highly of Alabama fans, residents of Tuscaloosa and certainly more of CNS than that.

Wow. Dude read the next sentence. He was being sarcastic.

 

[TIDETANKER42]

Re: Don't feed the troll!!!

I think we should all wish CK the best with whatever he decides (hope it's BAMA, if not, so be it), then put this thread to rest for few days, give the young man some breathing room, and pray that God gives him and his family the strength to get this over with, and then we can hopefully, CELEBRATE! We can all set here and speculate the same thing over and over, but until someone has something new, give the young man a rest, cause you know evrything on these message boards are getting back to his family. i just think we should be respectful and give them a break for a day or two and let them decide! RTR!!!!!!!

 

[RTR91]

Re: Don't feed the troll!!!

Latest with Cyrus Kouandjio. Reports of Iowa surfacing inaccurate. UA or AU. http://bit.ly/hPiz1F

Via Shane Youngblood.http://bit.ly/hPiz1F

 

[TIDE-HSV]

Re: Don't feed the troll!!!

I appreciate all the posts to the effect of not feeding trolls. It really saves staff a lot of work. Even if you answer him, don't quote a whole post. The thread just deteriorates and goes further off topic. In this case, I've banned the troll and removed his post. When someone comes in with a ridiculous first post like that, just report the post.

 

[rickvox79]

Re: Don't feed the troll!!!

Just read an article from Mike Farrell of Rivals. Definitely doesn't give me a lot of confidence that we will get him at least according to these comments that his HS coach is making right now. I think you need a subscription to Rivals to view the article so I'm not going to post the link. I'll just say that the coach seems to be in Auburn's corner from his quotes IMO.