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It was LSU's early trap game and they got past it. Now they have a long week to get ready to play West Virginia on the road. We'll need it with a number of players battered and bruised. It was a very physical game. State does not have the speed or the skill players to win the West, but they have a number of large, strong and very belligerent big uglies.
 

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LSU is built a lot like Alabama. The players on the field, the power running game mindset, wear you down type philosophy. I saw A LOT of similarities between Bama and LSU last night. LSU's defensive line is good. I wouldn't discount them. Their secondary is lock down. The game in Tuscaloosa is going to be a game for men only. If somebody brings their "little boy" game they'll get pounded into submission that day. It should be a slugfest.
I think you are spot on BB. IMO LSU eventually wore down MSU on both sides of the ball. Also IMO, #11 is the best RB LSU has had in several years. I made a statement before the season that my worst fear was that Lee or Mettenburger would start, because I honestly believe Jefferson was their weak link. Say what you want, but right now Jarrett Lee is playing at a very high level. The LSU defense is, at this point, equal to ours. Coming into Tuscaloosa is a hell of a lot different than coming into Starkville and MSU is still a mid tier, at best, team so November 5th will be judgement day in the SEC West.
 

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I watched the second half last night, and frankly was very underwhelmed with LSU's offense; Oregon must really stink. The LSU defense is stingy as expected, but played against a team that lost some key players on the oline? if I heard correctly so I was actually somewhat underwhelmed with their performance considering. LSU's offense is pretty average at best, their defense, very good and physical. MSU has no decent wide receivers and Relf and Ballard are pretty much all they have on offense, plus the loss on the oline, so it made it a bit easy for the LSU defense to handle MSU.
 

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I watched the second half last night, and frankly was very underwhelmed with LSU's offense; Oregon must really stink. The LSU defense is stingy as expected, but played against a team that lost some key players on the oline? if I heard correctly so I was actually somewhat underwhelmed with their performance considering. LSU's offense is pretty average at best, their defense, very good and physical. MSU has no decent wide receivers and Relf and Ballard are pretty much all they have on offense, plus the loss on the oline, so it made it a bit easy for the LSU defense to handle MSU.
LOL! And if you read and/or talk to LSU fans on message boards or in person they say the same thing about our offense. They are very unimpressed with our offense. I've read and been told "Bama has OL problems" and "Bama's offense is average at best...". Very similar comments to what I'm reading on here about their team. That is why I'm saying the two teams mirror each other. If LSU's defense were to line up against our offense I personally think, based on how our OL is performing now, I think LSU's defense would get the best of our offense. Hopefully, with each game the chemistry with our OL and offense will get better and by the time we play our game with the who's we'll be clicking on all cylinders.
 
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From what I saw our Defense is better.
We haven't played common opponents so it's hard to tell...I think both Oregon & Mississippi St. would wipe the floor with our "toughest" opponent to date, Penn St. Well..maybe not Miss. St. but Miss. St. could beat them. So you know...my hat's tipped to LSU. As I said, their offense is built to play with a lead. If they ever get down by 2 TDs, I'll be interested to see how they perform. Likewise, with our secondary, I'll be interested to see how we respond when we play a team that takes advantage of the mental lapses that we STILL have in our secondary...So we'll see..the season's young.
 

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We haven't played common opponents so it's hard to tell...I think both Oregon & Mississippi St. would wipe the floor with our "toughest" opponent to date, Penn St. Well..maybe not Miss. St. but Miss. St. could beat them. So you know...my hat's tipped to LSU. As I said, their offense is built to play with a lead. If they ever get down by 2 TDs, I'll be interested to see how they perform. Likewise, with our secondary, I'll be interested to see how we respond when we play a team that takes advantage of the mental lapses that we STILL have in our secondary...So we'll see..the season's young.
I respectfully disagree...like you said we'll see.
 

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LSU is built a lot like Alabama. The players on the field, the power running game mindset, wear you down type philosophy. I saw A LOT of similarities between Bama and LSU last night. LSU's defensive line is good. I wouldn't discount them. Their secondary is lock down. The game in Tuscaloosa is going to be a game for men only. If somebody brings their "little boy" game they'll get pounded into submission that day. It should be a slugfest.
I agree that Alabama and LSU mirrors each other very much so, but I know LSU fans are prolly not going to agree with it, but I think Bama has been offensive skills players then LSU. But I think the biggest difference between Bama and LSU is that, IMO, Bama has settle on their QB (regardless of what Saban says), I think AJ is the QB here on out. LSU can't say that. Lee is the QB for now, and then they have to see where they are at when or if Jefferson returns.
 

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I agree that Alabama and LSU mirrors each other very much so, but I know LSU fans are prolly not going to agree with it, but I think Bama has been offensive skills players then LSU. But I think the biggest difference between Bama and LSU is that, IMO, Bama has settle on their QB (regardless of what Saban says), I think AJ is the QB here on out. LSU can't say that. Lee is the QB for now, and then they have to see where they are at when or if Jefferson returns.
I was trying to figure where out MSU's offensive incompetency ended and LSU's defense dominance started all game. And lo and behold I couldn't distinguished one from the other.
LSU's defensive speed is less than ours,IMO, our running backs are better, and with Darius Hanks, I like our receivers better, no question if Duron Carter qualifys, again IMO.

LSU's D should've dominated. I think the difference will be apparent when we go to Starkville....but the real difference will be Nov. 5th in BDS.
 

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From what I've seen thus far, Bama and LSU are playing at another level, physically, than anyone else in the SEC. With the talent both teams have, if they bring their A games, Nov 5 will determine the SECW champ and likely the SEC champion.

As of right now, it appears both defenses are similar in overall quality, and while the LSU o-line looks a bit more aggressive right now, I think our offense better overall. Very, very slight edge to Bama at this point, in my crimson-tinted view...
 

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I agree that Alabama and LSU mirrors each other very much so, but I know LSU fans are prolly not going to agree with it, but I think Bama has been offensive skills players then LSU. But I think the biggest difference between Bama and LSU is that, IMO, Bama has settle on their QB (regardless of what Saban says), I think AJ is the QB here on out. LSU can't say that. Lee is the QB for now, and then they have to see where they are at when or if Jefferson returns.
I think Lee has progressed past the red shirt freshman that threw pick sixes on a regular basis. He was 21-27, 213 yds with 1 td and 1 int. He's shown he has the ability to make big plays in big games. Look at our game last year. He put the nail in the coffin with his big pass.

From a qb standpoint I think Bama is behind LSU right now. Lee has a lot more game experience, been through more trials and tribulations and is still standing, with the starting QB status of LSU in his hands. Where as, AJ is a first time starter, hasn't been "broke in" and hasn't gone through the struggles of what first time starters in the SEC go through and shown he can overcome it. I don't know if we've got a receiver right now on the field better than Reuben Randle from a talent standpoint. The freshman they had on the field last night #33 had a great showing and their hybrid TE Peterson has proven he can get the job done and be a mismatch for defenses.

Again, I just think our two teams are a like in many ways and it will be a brutal, physical contest in Tuscaloosa when they come to town.
 

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Ya I know BB, lol...

LSU will be fine with Lee at qb, but they aren't going to get much better than what they have now and thats pretty average.
If we're comparing the two teams which I've really tried not to do (its early in the season yet) but I'd argue Bama has a better offense right now, and the upside for improvement is quite a bit greater than LSU's as AJ and our younger guys get in the mix and get experience. I'm not as worried about our oline as some.
Defensively, both teams are outstanding with different strengths and weakness but pretty even right now in terms of how they play physical hard hitting, stingy in the red-zone, fly to the ball & adjust to the competition, imo.
I'm not dissing LSU but I came in last night just before the second half & saw a 3-3 score, then 6-3, and scratched my head. I watched the second half, still kind of expecting LSU to annihilate MSU and it didn't happen, thus my underwhelmed feelings. A nice defensive performance but really a ho-hum game for me otherwise, considering it was MSU who frankly showed defense to speak of against the barn...It will no doubt be an epic LSU/BAMA game this year. Can hardly wait.



LOL! And if you read and/or talk to LSU fans on message boards or in person they say the same thing about our offense. They are very unimpressed with our offense. I've read and been told "Bama has OL problems" and "Bama's offense is average at best...". Very similar comments to what I'm reading on here about their team. That is why I'm saying the two teams mirror each other. If LSU's defense were to line up against our offense I personally think, based on how our OL is performing now, I think LSU's defense would get the best of our offense. Hopefully, with each game the chemistry with our OL and offense will get better and by the time we play our game with the who's we'll be clicking on all cylinders.
 
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I was trying to figure where out MSU's offensive incompetency ended and LSU's defense dominance started all game. And lo and behold I couldn't distinguished one from the other.
Same here. Was State completely lost out there, or did LSU just look that good? I think the reality may fall somewhere in the middle.

LSU wont face many(if any) offenses that run 3 straight QB draws when it's first and goal from the ten yard line. Likewise, LSU allowed several first downs in which Relf appeared to be dancing the robot in slow motion.

IMHO, LSU looked good, but not unbeatable. Their O is lacking. Lee looks like a senior QB who is just competent enough to keep his team from losing (think Joe Bauserman at OSU or even Todd Boeckman a few years ago for OSU.) But I'll admit that Ware looks better than Ridley did at any time last season, and to date, appears that he's just the slightest notch below the elite 2 RB's of the SEC, Richardson and Lattimore.

But no one on that LSU D looks as good as they did last year. Mathieu is no Peterson and Brockers is no Drake Nevis (who I still think may have been the best DT in the SEC last year.) Lots of their DL are actually undersized. Most of their DE's are LB's in our system. (Mingo, Montgomery, Maclin)

I'm not trying to overlook LSU by any means, but they don't scare me as much as they did after watching the Oregon game.
 

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From what I've seen thus far, Bama and LSU are playing at another level, physically, than anyone else in the SEC. With the talent both teams have, if they bring their A games, Nov 5 will determine the SECW champ and likely the SEC champion.

As of right now, it appears both defenses are similar in overall quality, and while the LSU o-line looks a bit more aggressive right now, I think our offense better overall. Very, very slight edge to Bama at this point, in my crimson-tinted view...
I with you. You homers not wanting to give LSU their props are being overly homeristic, not that there's anything wrong with that, but just realize it. If it walks like a duck, it's probably a a duck. When I watched that game last night I saw a duck.
 

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I think Lee has progressed past the red shirt freshman that threw pick sixes on a regular basis. He was 21-27, 213 yds with 1 td and 1 int. He's shown he has the ability to make big plays in big games. Look at our game last year. He put the nail in the coffin with his big pass.

From a qb standpoint I think Bama is behind LSU right now. Lee has a lot more game experience, been through more trials and tribulations and is still standing, with the starting QB status of LSU in his hands. Where as, AJ is a first time starter, hasn't been "broke in" and hasn't gone through the struggles of what first time starters in the SEC go through and shown he can overcome it. I don't know if we've got a receiver right now on the field better than Reuben Randle from a talent standpoint. The freshman they had on the field last night #33 had a great showing and their hybrid TE Peterson has proven he can get the job done and be a mismatch for defenses.

Again, I just think our two teams are a like in many ways and it will be a brutal, physical contest in Tuscaloosa when they come to town.
Just curious (and don't have time to look), what were the Trot's stats against the dogs?
 

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LSU defense is stout, but the inept bulldogs make them look superior.
The who's play the lizards soon...we'll find out all we need to know about their D. It looks pretty good, but they haven't played any offensive powerhouses.
I do think Bama's O will score more than 17 points agianst them.
 

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The who's play the lizards soon...we'll find out all we need to know about their D. It looks pretty good, but they haven't played any offensive powerhouses.
I do think Bama's O will score more than 17 points agianst them.
Oregon isn't an offensive powerhouse?
 
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